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stackhouse Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:08 PM
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Poll question: who would you vote for govenor of minnesota
if the 2006 elections were held today who would you vote for govenor of minnesota
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 04:29 PM
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1. Hatch is the only one with real name recgonization
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 04:30 PM by CatholicEdHead
in the state and a track record in peoples' minds that cuts both ways.

I like Steve Kelly's website:
http://www.kelleyforminnesota.org/

yet ask a person on the street and they will go ??? like I did at first glance of this poll.


The same goes for Bud:

http://www.philbrook2006.com/

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 05:17 PM
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2. I like Hatch, too. He has a strong record of fighting for people
in the area of health care, corporate abuse of citizens, etc.

His experience managing his huge department is a plus, too. Haven't seen any scandals there. LOL.

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:13 AM
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3. anybody but Hatch
I can't abide Hatch.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 02:16 PM
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4. he's made a lot of enemies
I know some die-hard Dems who used to work in the AG's office who have told me that they would rather vote for Timmy the Gimmick-man and then go jump off a bridge than vote for Mike Hatch. There's a lot of hatred out there from the people who know him.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 04:31 PM
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5. So, what are relitive unknowns chances agianst Timmy?
Can Steve and Bud make themselves known above the GOP pro-Timmy noise machine? On face value there does not seem to be much mud to sling at Steve and Bud, but Hatch has many things to dig up, starting with his recent mess with his daughters in Chicago.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:13 PM
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9. Ciresi - lots of $$$ and he's kicked big tobacco's ass
I also think Patty Wetterling might do a better job as a governor than in the U.S. congress, as I think the sort of policy decisions that occur within state government are better suited to who she is than federal issues. Plus, you can't smear her without looking like a complete @$$hole in the process.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 06:29 PM
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6. Yes, indeed
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 06:33 PM by goodhue
Alas, Hatch is kind of like US Ambassador John Bolton. He is a kick down kind of guy - very mean and nasty. He differs from Bolton in that he doesn't kiss up, rather he kicks up as well. Recall what he did to Rudy in 1990 when he ran against his boss the DFL governor, and ultimately helped us loose the governor's mansion. And in 1994, spurning endorsement process, he covertly had his delegates back Marty over Freeman at convention, thinking he would have a better shot to beat Marty in primary. Freeman has never forgiven him; I don't think they are on speaking terms. Hatch has wanted to be governor for many, many years. He is ambitious, ruthless and mean. I realize he is a great champion of the elderly and the consumers, but I for one would not shake his hand if it were extended.
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CrazyForKucinich Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:30 PM
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7. Ken Pentel
That man rocks.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:24 PM
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8. Oh, Hatch, the one who flip flopped on abortion and lied to DFL activists
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 02:31 PM by Dickie Flatt
...doesn't mean you should vote for him.

He's run for governor twice. He's lost in the primary twice. But now it looks like he just might easily coast through the primary for no reason other than it's "his turn."

Don't do it. You can't trust Hatch. Remember how I said he lost the primary twice? Well, at least one of those times, he shouldn't have even been in the primary. He was only there because he LIED to the DFL delegates and BROKE HIS WORD to DFL activists during his 1990 run for governor:
Hatch, a former party chairman, had said he would abide by the endorsement. Yesterday he said he still expects to win it, but he said he had to go into the primary. "If one (candidate) does, the other would be a fool not to," he said "We are in this to the end."


And he's only attorney general now because he ran against the endorsed candidate in 1998.

And his record on choice? Not consistent. Not principled. Here's a tidbit from a 2001 Star Tribune article:
His critics say Hatch tried to pull off one of the more cynical stunts in Minnesota politics when, in the space of four years, he went from selling himself as the abortion-rights alternative to Perpich to remaking himself as an abortion-opposing alternative to DFL nominee John Marty in 1994.
And back in '94, he was supported by Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life! From the Strib in '94:
Mike Hatch, 45, lost the gubernatorial primary four years ago as an ardent abortion-rights supporter. He softened his message this year and picked up the support of Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life (MCCL).
Watch him go! Here's Hatch in 1990:
"I support the right of women, not politicians, making that decision. Rudy Perpich does not," Hatch said at a State Capitol news conference with Emily Anne Staples, his lieutenant governor candidate. ...

And while Hatch noted that he's been a consistent supporter of abortion rights, his new emphasis on the issue is a politically pragmatic move. Abortion is not a liberal or conservative issue, but one that cuts across party lines, he said.
But in 1994, Hatch sang a different tune:
The MCCL backing is based on Hatch's agreement with the group's position on each of eight questions involving current abortion issues. His positions include support for "informed consent" laws and parental notification and opposition to public funding for abortions and against the proposed Freedom of Choice Act. He also sided with MCCL in backing a law against abortion "as a means of birth control." ..

The MCCL recommendation is based on Hatch's perfect score on eight questions listed in the newsletter. His responses represent a dramatic transformation, said Lisa Goodman, executive director of the Minnesota affiliate of the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League.

While Hatch was a "100 percent pro-choice" candidate for governor in 1990, his responses to MCCL questions represent an abrupt about-face, Goodman said. "Obviously, the pro-choice community cannot trust Mike Hatch. I wonder if the MCCL, or the citizens of Minnesota, should trust him," Goodman said.
Hatch said this about MCCL's support: "I welcome it."

And just read what people in this thread have said about him. The negative stuff is really negative.

Honestly, why Hatch?
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