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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:11 PM
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To hell with the recount and the protesting.
An election in the balance and all we get are 40-60 people out of a city the size of Columbus? If people don't care then they have the president they deserve.
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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:13 PM
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1. Yep. America has signed on to this mess........
fully complicit. We get what we deserve. And, lord, it is going to really smart bad when the neocon plan comes to fruition. Oh well, i really enjoyed coming of age in the late 70s. It was a gas. And i thank god that I do not have any children to leave this mess to.
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frogfromthenorth2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:14 PM
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2. Yep...very sad....
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:24 PM
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3. This is not an excuse but I made the trip to Columbus from Cincinnati
last Saturday. The rally last Sat. attracted about 700-900 though the wind and cold and inability to hear the speakers made the crowd more like 400 at any given time with people departing as more came.

Just because we know about this 51 capital march on DU does not mean others do.

What we do need are for African American congregations to be the face of this struggle. Minority disenfranchisement (other than fraud) is the most reprehensible tactic the GOP used and something most fair minded individuals would find repellant.

Check out Barney Blackwell



and

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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:27 PM
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5. African American congregations will never do that
I am convinced that they are a chunk of that "religious right" that passed the anti-gay Issue 1 in Ohio.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:56 PM
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12. I agree, rosebud. Most Ohioans probably had no clue whatsoever.
Without a media/advertizing campaign to get the word out about events like these, most people either went to church, slept in, or went shopping at Easton or Polaris with no knowledge of what was supposed to be taking place at the Statehouse this morning.

We could really use something like a "MoveOn.org" strictly for Ohio to coordinate advertizing campaigns and the like for issues like these.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:24 PM
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4. there must be something in the drinking water . . .
virtually no protests against either the Iraq war OR the election theft . . . I don't understand it . . . I don't understand it one little bit . . .
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:43 PM
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6. I do.
We seem to be very slow to rouse unless we have something concrete to rally around.

The election fraud is widespread and indistinct, so many different kinds happening in so many places. People tend to dismiss it as "everybody does it." Something more needs to happen.

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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:40 PM
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10. I understand it. Americans
care far more about alleged "voting fraud" on a stupid fucking meaningless TV show like "American Idol" than they do about vote fraud that affects them far more. We are superficial, shallow, uninformed, and, unfortunately, damned proud of it.

We do indeed get the president and the government we deserve, unfortunately the rest of us who didn't vote for it and who fought for some sanity and democracy are going to suffer right along with them.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:51 PM
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7. this news report said there were about 100
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 04:51 PM by katinmn
http://cbsnewyork.com/national/Ohio-ElectoralCollege-aa/resources_news_html

Dissidents protest Monday's Electoral College vote in key swing state Ohio
Sunday December 12, 2004
By JOHN McCARTHY
Associated Press Writer
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) As it has done for 200 years, Ohio's delegation to the Electoral College is to meet Monday to cast ballots for president and vice president but this time, there are demands that the electors wait until after a recount.

The Electoral College's vote in the Ohio Senate chamber is expected to be accompanied by demonstrations outside the Capitol sponsored by groups who don't accept that President Bush won the key swing state by 119,000 votes, guaranteeing his victory over Democrat John Kerry.

A demonstration was held Sunday as about 100 people gathered outside the Ohio Statehouse to protest the delegation's vote.

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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:22 PM
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8. I was there, 100 is really stretching it. 40 at times rising to about 75.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:31 PM
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9. sympathetic reporter, maybe? n/t
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:04 PM
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11. Here are my photos from Columbus Ohio, capital of apathy
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:51 AM
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13. There ARE people who care, they are just waiting to be led.
It took women 72 YEARS to get the vote!! In this day and age with the internet and 24/7 media, it still will take a lot of dedication, effort, persistance and constant information to get more people to respond.

The easy thing to do is say "ain't it awful"... the hard thing to do is keep working at it and keep the faith.

As I understand it, Congressman John Conyers is bringing a delegation of Congressional Black Caucus to Columbus today to shine some more light on what is taking place.

Let's keep the faith and keep plugging away.
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Unborn Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:57 PM
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14. A call to picket all of Ohio's Board of Elections offices...
51 Capital March has published a list, alphabetically by county, of all board of election offices in Ohio. Street address, city, zip, hours, email address, phone, and names of the directors are included.

http://www.51capitalmarch.com/ohio88.shtml

There is a downloadable flyer for each county calling for picket action.
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