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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:49 PM
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"Carole won't run if Kay does."
Completely unsubstantiated internet gossip, but interesting.

Thoughts? Agree? Disagree?
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:51 PM
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1. I know who Kay is, but who's Carole?
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 02:04 PM
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2. Keaton-Strayhorn (Reilander)
I know my spelling is wrong. Personally, I hope they both bipass 2006. But on the other hand, I'd like to see Strayhorn take on Perry for the nomination. I like it when she goes for the jugular on him!
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:31 PM
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4. Carole Keeton McClellan Rylander Strayhorn.
You forgot a husband, father of our dear (not!) press secretary, Scott. ;)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:40 PM
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5. Carole Whamalamadingdong Filbert Thingamajig Whizzbang
What's up with all the names, anyway? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:58 PM
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6. Well, if you really want to know . . .
I'm familiar with her history because she's from Austin and was the first female president of the school board, then mayor of Austin, (back when she was a Democrat) before she moved on to state office.

Keeton is her given name and she uses it because her dad (Page Keeton) was dean of the UT law school and the street that runs by the law school is now named "Dean Keeton Street."

Mr. McClelland (I can't recall his first name) is the father of her four sons, including Scott. She divorced him and married Mr. Rylander, who owned a chain of grocery stores that were bought out by Safeway and then Randall's, I believe. They also divorced. Then a couple of years ago, she married her high school sweetheart, Mr. Strayhorn. Their parents apparently disapproved of their relationship back then and they each married other people but he was a widower and they got back together.

She only goes by Carole Keeton Strayhorn now. I have mixed feelings about her. I liked her when she was school board president and mayor (though her voice can really grate on your nerves.) I even like some of the things she has done or proposed as comptroller, especially how she has stood up to Perry. But I can't stand that she became a republican and how she put out misleading budget figures just before the 2000 election to try to make Bush look good, then retracted them after he was elected. I think I like her better than Kay Bailey Hutchison, though, if I had to choose a republican for governor.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:33 PM
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7. That's Carole Keeton McClellan Rylander Strayhorn Cougar Mellencamp.
:-)
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:07 PM
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3. makes sense to me
I don't think CKS would stand a chance vs. KBH -- and Carole probably knows it.

KBH just seems the much stronger candidate.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:25 PM
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8. Kay Hutchinson vs. Gov. Goodhair could be fun to watch
What would Gov. Goodhair do if beaten by a girl?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:01 PM
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10. Either way we get the hair-obsessed for governor
Lucky us!

;)
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:38 PM
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9. Suppose Kay goes after Governor., would Carole try for Senate?
and if she passes on both, would the other Kay (Granger) try for Senate?


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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:17 PM
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11. Oooo....interesting! n/t
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:45 PM
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12. Hmmm
Now that's something to think about. Politics in Texas looks to get very interesting very quickly.

L-
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:47 AM
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13. ANYone but Strayhorn...
She dissed my religion--UU. Tried to have it not recognized by the state...then she backed down after the media got a hold of it..and the state lawyers wouldn't back her up.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/state/8692961.htm


AUSTIN - Unitarian Universalists have for decades presided over births, marriages and memorials. The church operates in every state, with more than 5,000 members in Texas alone.

But according to the office of Texas Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, a Denison Unitarian church isn't really a religious organization -- at least for tax purposes. Its reasoning: the organization "does not have one system of belief."

Never before -- not in this state or any other -- has a government agency denied Unitarians tax-exempt status because of the group's religious philosophy, church officials say. Strayhorn's ruling clearly infringes upon religious liberties, said Dan Althoff, board president for the Denison congregation that was rejected for tax exemption by the comptroller's office. "I was surprised -- surprised and shocked -- because the Unitarian church in the United States has a very long history," said Althoff, who notes that father-and-son presidents John Adams and John Quincy Adams were both Unitarians.

Since Strayhorn took over in January 1999, the comptroller's office has denied religious tax-exempt status to 17 groups and granted them to more than 1,000, according to records obtained by the Star-Telegram. Although there are exceptions, the lion's share of approvals have gone to groups that appear to have relatively traditional faiths, records show
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:35 PM
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14. what a putz!
I didn't know that. How interesting.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 07:19 PM
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15. Is there any talk of Charlie Stenholm running for Governor?
Now that he's out of Congress, and with no other big candidates to run in 2006...why not?

Martin Frost would make a great Senate candidate, and could probably win if Kay runs for Governor!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:05 PM
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16. Martin's making calls about the DLC position.
I haven't heard anything about Charlie Stenholm, but it's rumored that Chris Bell will be looking into the possibility of statewide office. (I think it was Chris Bell I heard that about... or am I imagining it? never believe anything you read on the internets, anyway.)
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:07 PM
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17. I've heard rumors of Chris Bell running for governor too
and not just on the internets. From some folks who might just be in a position to know.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:09 PM
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18. Wasn't Chris Bell the one who replaced Ken Bentsen?
how would Ken Bentsen do as the Democratic nominee for the Senate?

It would be great to see Texas Democrats make a comeback in 2006..
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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:26 PM
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19. I was a county coordinator for Stenholm for 12 years
and I guarantee you, even if you disagree with him--which I did often-- he will listen and accord you respect. He is conservative--and representing the city of churches--Abilene--he HAD to be... or lose sooner than he did. But from my personal experiences with him, over a long time, this guy could put us back in competition! Dare I use the term? Dreamticket! Something like this: Governor-Stenholm, Lt Gov-Frost or Sharp, Attorney-Gen-Chris Bell, other possibilities: Nancy Stevens, Jeri Slone,Ron Kirk, Juaquin Castro, to name buta few.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:54 PM
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20. that's enough to make me move to the Lone Star state..
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 11:28 PM by flaminbats
I remember before he was beaten, Wyche Fowler always provided forums on the issues and listened to every concern brought up by the attendees.

No Senator since has ever been so attentive to the concerns of the voters in that state, why are the most corrupt politicians so successful in today's political culture?

but just add Ken Bentsen as the Senate candidate...
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:56 PM
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25. Nancy Stevens is someone I would love to see get an office somewhere
I worked on her Legislative campaign this year and have really enjoyed knowing her and working for her.

She fought a hard fight; I just hope she has it in her to run again!!!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:59 AM
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21. I heard John Sharp speak a few weeks ago...
And I think he may give it a shot. I'd campaign for that guy!

FSC
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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:41 AM
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22. No doubt, the most intelligent
guy on the state scene. I worked my a__ off for him...twice. That may be the downside for him--may be percieved as a 'loser'. Though nothing could be farther from the truth and Texas is the poorer for choosing goodhair over him, "The reality of any given situation is not important. A person's perception of that reality is everything. That perception is what the person will act on."

While Sharp is probably the 'wonk' of the pair, Stenholm has a high enough name-rec and respect, he's the man to start bringing down this Ninth Wave cabal the RePubes have shoved down Texans' throats.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 10:23 AM
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23. Point taken.
But I had never heard him speak before that, still being a relative newcomer to all this stuff.

What an impressive guy. And I hadn't realized that he was the "Texas Tomorrow Fund"" creator. Which Perry instantly dismantled. We wouldn't want any of the middle class kids rising up and actually thinking for themselves with an education. Better to keep them all living at subsistence level so they can shove their shit down our thraots more easily.

:eyes:
FSC
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montieg Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:46 PM
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24. Not only the Tomorrow fund
but he came up with the Lone Star Card idea, figured the angles, ironed it out and put them into operation. Without a doubt the single BEST solution to welfare fund abuse ever created! Guy is wicked smart, but I'm convinced that we have to field candidates that appeal to voters in one of three ways: Charisma (JFKennedy & Big Dog), vitality (Edwards, Powell, & Dean), or 'common man'populism (Bush). Unfortunately, Sharp is none of these--just doesn't light the old fires. The last is how I see Stenholm making it work. But Damn! you nailed the reason for PissyPerry shutting down Tomorrow Fund. Now he's trying the same thing on the Top Ten % Rule: can't have those 'uppity' minorities making waves.
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