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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:30 PM
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Green Bay Packers President, Bob Harlan, ordered the flag to half-staff
at Lambeau to "honor" the death of Reggie White. Gov. Doyle remains neutral on this even though local veterans groups (and others) have protested.

There has been a Reggie White merchandise feeding frenzy and even a Green Bay Christian book store (Lighthouse) is cashing in.

Meanwhile the planet may be undergoing an axis shift.

I don't think the national flag should have been lowered for Reggie White-who was a great professional football player as well as a homophobic racist.

Green Bay is a cultural backwater imo.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:33 PM
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1. That's just f-ing offensive
And that's coming from me, a democrat, who is therefore an obvious "america-hating liberal who would rather burn the flag because he's too damn lazy collecting welfare checks to spend the time to pee on it".

Flags are lowered for American heroes, servicepeople, and government leader types.

Not for fuckin' football players. Even if they were damned good, and even if they did play for God's team.

No lowering the flag for sports people!!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:35 PM
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3. I agree, it is an insult to US.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 11:35 PM
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2. This is Green Bay.
The Packers are the most popular religion in that area.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 09:26 AM
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4. I don't really care much about it one way or the other. But, it
seems to me that if the owner of the flag wants to run it half way up the stick it's OK. After all, he could have cut the pole in half and then the flag would have been considered to be all the up but in reality it would have been exactly where it was vertically when it was half way. God, I'm talking nonsense!
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:02 PM
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5. a racist?
um...reggie's black bro...
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Lisaben2619 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:58 PM
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6. Yes, a racist!
Um...clearly White's comments about races other than and including his own race, show his racism. I don't know what else you would call saying thing like "hispanics....can get 20-30 people in one home" or "the Japanese...can turn televisions into watches."

It's amazing to me that the same types of people who want a constitutional amendment to prevent burning of the US flag are often the same ones who now want to use it to honor a sports personality (and an ignorant one at that) or who paste it all over their SUVs.

Maybe we could just replace the stars with the Nike logo and the Packers could get sponsor money for it, too.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:18 PM
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7. Just Relax
Harlan changed the policy so you babies won't have a fit. From now on the American flag will be taken down and the Packer flag will be flown at half mast.Christ you sound like a bunch of Republicans!
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:30 PM
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8. Thank you, gizmo! I love you!
Holy Gebebus - people are such f-in lunatics around here!!

Green Bay is not a backwater anything, and I'm sick to f-in' death of people dissing a great place!

As to Reggie: I loved him. I didn't like his comments on homosexuality, but I also didn't let it stop me from lovin' the guy. I also realize that makes me unpopular around here, but I don't give a crap.

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tinnyguy1777 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:35 PM
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9. Bless you, Rev------------------
Did your love for the Rev. Reggie, also compel you to be one of the many "suckers" that donated upwards of $250,000.00 to the "phantom church" that he was building. Talk about swallowing a line------"Reggie speaketh", and you all bow down, with your wallets open--------LOL. That sounds suspiciously like "backwater" response, to a suave huckesters request.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 04:59 PM
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10. Some pretty big operators get taken in by hucksters
Dishonesty is universal and works everywhere to extract money and kindness from people, not just in Green Bay. You can't call that "backwater."

It's funny. People across this country praise Wisconsin for the caliber of people we have here and our nearly socialist Midwestern values of generosity, integrity, openness and honesty. But when someone takes advangage of the values we have here, suddenly we're at fault, we're backwards, we're suckers.

Go ahead, shame the victims. Then move on to another state that's more to your liking. You obviously have little to offer your fellow Wisconsinites.
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tinnyguy1777 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 05:13 PM
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13. "Shame the victims"????
They're not necessarily victims. I think most of the donors were probably good people, but they were so eager to be associated with the "great Reggie", that they were overcome with generosity. I only hope they are similarily generous, in the coming week, in response to requests for aid for the victims of the tsunami.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:38 PM
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12. You presume too much.
I donated nothing to his churches. I support missions work through the United Methodist Church. But I sure wouldn't go around calling people "sucker" because of their generosity of spirit. I also am offended at your tone. I certainly expected better behavior in the WI forum.

I like Reggie White. A good man with a good heart. He cared about people, and did what he could to help. Name me one other sports hero who has done what he has done for other people, and not their own pocketbook. I was disappointed in his comments about homosexuality, but there was much, much more to him than that particular topic. I choose to remember the good, and his attempts to make a difference.

I love Green Bay. It is NOT a backwater town. Green Bay is a place I go to when I need to shop, see a movie, or just get out on the town. If you define Green Bay as "backwater," what exactly do you call Two Rivers? Or Algoma? (pop. 3,500 and declining)

Try living in the piedmont of North Carolina for six years, like I did, and you will know what "backwater" looks like. See how many people live in mobile homes, because it's all they can afford. Go on mission trips into the foothills of NC, and see people living in homes with dirt floors and no plumbing. Once you see the abject poverty that many people in the Appalachians live in (real poverty and hopelessness), one becomes more grateful for what one has.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:05 PM
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11. Well, Gov. Doyle ordered flags flown at half-staff
for the asian Tsunami victims.

How will the Reggie Apologists know who to honor?

or maybe we should honor the 33 Wisconsin Dead American Soldiers? or is Reggie more important?

Sheesh, putting a dead bigoted homophobic football hero (sic) on a pedestal, if that's not backwater then I don't know what is...

RL
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