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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:11 PM
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FYI - Some of the latest on TABOR
http://milwaukee.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2005/01/31/editorial3.html
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Moody's report a red flag on TABOR
Jack Norman

The Taxpayers Bill of Rights (TABOR) anti-tax movement is a danger to the credit ratings of Wisconsin cities, villages and towns.
So says Moody's Investor Services, the credit-rating giant whose judgments determine the interest rates local governments pay to borrow money. A new Moody's report says "surging anti-tax sentiment" is the top challenge to the credit-worthiness of Wisconsin municipalities.

This is an alert flag to anyone tempted by TABOR. TABOR, which is based on a Colorado policy with that name, would impose strict revenue limits on state and local governments. Republican legislators are fiddling with various ways to word the proposed restrictions, which would limit revenue growth to inflation and some function of income or population growth.

TABOR supporters say it would rein in spending and strengthen the state's business climate by ensuring low taxes. But the Moody's analysis -- a politics-free assessment of economic reality -- makes clear that TABOR would be bad for business.
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http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion//index.php?ntid=26808&ntpid=2
Editorial By Rep. Frank Lasee (R)
February 1, 2005

Earlier this month, I wrote a column about TABOR's enduring popularity in Colorado, the first state to enact a constitutional amendment of that kind.

In response, Zweifel writes in his Jan. 21 column: "Maybe there's something in the water up there in Brown County, because Frank Lasee doesn't know what he's talking about."

Let's take a look. In his column, Zweifel says schools in Colorado went into "steep decline" because TABOR didn't allow them enough money. This is false. According to the National Education Association:

• Colorado's student/teacher ratio fell from 18.5 students per teacher to 17.3 in six years following enactment of TABOR - including the recession years.

• The staff/student ratio fell from 9.7 students per staff member to 8.7 (Wisconsin's fell from 9.1 to 8.1).

• They built over a hundred new schools during that time.

• Colorado's students have shown far more improvement on National Assessment of Educational Progress exams than Wisconsin's. In fact, on fourth-grade reading tests, Colorado students outperformed Wisconsin's in 2003.

In decline? They're improving faster than we are.
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I can't wait for Dave Zweifel to counter this one. Apparently Lasee is the new GOPpie TABOR front man. Everywhere I turn he seems to be talking it up. I'm gathering ammo to take to TABOR forums happening in my area. Kind of looking forward to the challenge of stringing up a few pukes.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 05:30 PM
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1. On a related note - Tax Limits Gain Ground
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/feb05/298218.asp
Tax limits gain ground
Opponents, supporters debate problems at public hearing
By STEVEN WALTERS
swalters@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Feb. 1, 2005

Pewaukee - Republican lawmakers Tuesday approved and sent to the full Legislature a controversial three-year limit on local government property tax levies, tying them to new construction in their communities — increases that have averaged 2.5% in recent years.

The 12-4 vote by the Legislature’s Joint Finance Committee cleared the plan for a vote by the full Assembly later this month. Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle vetoed a similar measure in 2003 and is expected to veto this proposal.

All Republicans on the committee, who call the proposal a property tax freeze, voted for it; Democrats opposed it.

The vote came after seven hours of public testimony at Waukesha County Technical College, where opponents outnumbered supporters. But there was plenty of frustration over the $8.1 billion property tax burden, which has increased by one-third in five years.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:36 PM
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2. Thanks for the links. We need to keep this on the radar..
...so it doesn't slip through in the middle-of-the-night.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:51 PM
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3. Links to
TABOR-related sites?
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:08 PM
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4. A few links of relevance
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:10 PM
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5. Thank you
I'll bookmark this and stay tuned.....

:hi:
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:23 PM
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6. BTW, there is a forum on TABOR at Loyal on February 10th
Suder, Zien and other Clark County representatives will be there defending TABOR. If you are interested in coming or know a few Dems who are, it starts at 8pm at the Loyal Legion Hall. If you need a ride, I'd be thrilled to come and pick you up.

There will be loads of disgruntled local politicians there in addition to a few puke gadflys I know personally so bring the popcorn.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 03:29 PM
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7. Thanks again...
I'll consider that strongly!!!!!

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