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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 03:13 PM
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Latest Strategic Counsel poll
The Globe has just released a few hints on the weekend and today, but it appears the Conservatives have dropped. Today the Globe said they are at 35% nationally, and the Liberals are at 31%. The numbers were buried in a story on Afghanistan, as I recall, so the entire party breakdown wasn't given (e.g. not sure about NDP).

On the weekend they the dropped a hint about the poll in a story about Quebec, where they pumped the fact that the Conservatives were polling 30% there (up from 25% at election time), and that the Bloc had dropped about the same amount. They let slip that the Conservatives had fallen 4% (to 36%) in the rest of the country, though. Those numbers tally with today's further hint.

I guess that is the fate of polls that aren't good news for the Conservatives - either ignored or carefully buried. So much for press objectivity.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 06:25 PM
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1. Interesting, especially as Strategic Counsel's polling tends to
slant in favour of the Cons and their methodology is in question.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 08:44 PM
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2. So right leaning is your press?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 10:23 PM
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3. It has become more right leaning over time
Although the Globe manages to remain quite literate in the process, and even slips in the odd alternative voice (e.g. Rick Salutin). But, generally speaking, they are starchly corporate. Sometimes this results in some fairly nuanced positions that show a high degree of enlightened self-interest. For example, they don't advocate completely dismantling health care, as they realize it is a plus for corporate international competitiveness.

Some others are less adroit in their conservative leanings (bad pun intentional). I would say Canwest and Global are not trying too hard to hide their preferences, although they still hedge their bets now and again. I don't know that we have anything that compares to Fox News and the like, though.

These are just my opinions. I don't know how widely they are shared.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:44 AM
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4. So in other words...
The entire private sector Media is rightwing and the ONLY thing that might fit the category of 'journalism' is the state run CBC...why mince words.

Canada possesses some of the most concentrated media ownership anywhere and that's inspite of having social democrats run the country for most of a century that have mightily contributed to it, but as soon as the social democrats leave power, social democrats change their scripts to 'Tory' media from 'corporate' media.

yeah yeah Harper is Scary...duly noted.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:12 PM
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5. I'm sorry but I don't agree with your assessment of the CBC as being
"state run." The CBC is funded by the government but NOT run by the government. It was created in order that Canada would have a broadcaster in all sectors of this vast land...My observation of the CBC is that, unlike others (CTV for instance), they do not take sides, but report the facts. When Mike Duffy was doing his rah-rah coverage of Harper before the election, I was wishing the CBC would try to knock Harper down, in order to balance CTV, but the CBC did not, and rightfully so. They do honest journalism, IMO....:)
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:52 PM
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6. Oh I'm sorry...
Edited on Wed May-10-06 03:54 PM by MrPrax
But in all fairness, if it were UP to the CBC regarding the sponsorship scandal--we probably wouldn't have even heard of it, if it WASN'T for the 'rah-rah' coverage of private sector media.

But I suspect...that's what your on about...not journalism, but the appearance of journalism.

But run along...there is probably a hockey game on at the moment anyway
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:18 PM
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7. You should be sorry.
Edited on Wed May-10-06 05:43 PM by glarius
"But I suspect...that's what your on about...not journalism, but the appearance of journalism."...In the first place you should have said "But I suspect...that's what you're on about....You could use a lesson in grammar.
I repeat what I said before, that the CBC does honest journalism.
Who do you think you are.... telling me to run along...there is probably a hockey game on at the moment anyway?...Who are you to be condescending to me??????
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:38 PM
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8. Sorry again...
BUT right at this moment I am listening (like I usually do) to the World at Six and they just did a report on Venezuela that sounded like it was written by the US State Department, like most of their Latin reporting.

There are a great many deficiencies with the CBC and I as a leftwing person can even see some of the 'bias' either against the Tories or for the Liberals. Now a lot of the times CBC local reporting is the ONLY critical media in a province, very true--but I am not necessarily convinced that those same standards exist on national issues.

The CBC is a lot bigger than it news--and IF it really is only the news, then maybe this odd bird among national broadcasters should be re-thought.

(PS--if you notice I said it 'fit the category of journalism' which should have tipped you off that I don't really buy that argument in the first place--I like information and fact, and I assume it's bias--the professional appearance of people hired by media companies don't really interest me...they ALL claim to be journalists, don't they)
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:13 PM
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9. It's simple.......I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU!
I find the CBC to be balanced and credible in their reporting....
I have no idea what that last paragraph of yours is all about...Don't bother to explain...
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