Boojatta
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Mon Aug-04-08 03:32 PM
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Question about language laws in Quebec |
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Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 03:59 PM by Boojatta
Suppose that a Canadian of first nations ancestry owns a retail store or a building used for non-profit purposes and that the building has a sign facing a street in Quebec with words in French and also words -- of the same size -- in a language of one of the first nations.
Would such a sign violate Quebec law?
I'm wondering whether or not Quebec law requires that the French be of a larger size to emphasize the dominant position of the language of France and the subordinate position of Canadian first nations people in Quebec.
On a different topic, I hear that voting by immigrants was blamed for separatist loss in referendums. If the federal government of Canada were to impose a ten-year ban on immigration from France to Canada, then would Quebec separatists be satisfied that something has been done to reduce the number of new immigrants coming into Canada?
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Mon Aug-04-08 05:12 PM
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1. I'm fairly certain that it does not apply to first nations' languages |
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Although I'm not 100% on that. The charter of the French Language does state though:
"Whereas the National Assembly of Québec recognizes the right of the Amerinds and the Inuit of Québec, the first inhabitants of this land, to preserve and develop their original language and culture"
As for the second part of your post, Jacques Parizeau (the premier of Quebec during the referendum) famously blamed the separatists loss on "money and the ethnic vote." Most of the separatists would never understand the irony of your restricted immigration plan lol.
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Mon Aug-04-08 08:09 PM
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I'm wondering whether or not Quebec law requires that the French be of a larger size to emphasize the dominant position of the language of France and the subordinate position of Canadian first nations people in Quebec.
If so, you might be able to find some guidance on your query.
Meanwhile, I urge my fellow Canadians not to fall into this.
Immigration from France to Canada ... yeesh.
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Fri Aug-15-08 01:55 PM
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9. Have you got access to Google? |
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Everyone knows that your search skills are superior.
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Tue Aug-19-08 04:01 PM
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14. Does access to a search engine necessarily... |
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eliminate any possible justification for the existence of this thread?
For example, I shall refrain from asserting that I never requested a privilege of locking, at my sole discretion, threads that I created. However, I certainly have no desire for such power with respect to this particular thread.
If a DU member wished to be so bold as to stray beyond the strict boundaries of giving unadorned and very specific answers to closed-ended questions posed in the Original Post of this thread, then I do not see that I (or any other participant in this thread) would have a basis for complaint.
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Wed Aug-06-08 07:50 AM
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3. Though I'm not a separatist, |
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I find the whole premise of your post to be highly offensive. Perhaps you should get a bit better informed before spewing shit.
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Wed Aug-06-08 08:49 PM
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4. What is "the whole premise"? |
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Thu Aug-07-08 08:06 AM
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Spewing shit about things that you do not understand?
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Sun Aug-17-08 10:34 AM
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13. Your unwillingness to actually say what's offending you is amusing (nt) |
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Tue Aug-19-08 04:04 PM
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15. Well, did anyone specifically ask? |
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We can respect people without necessarily having any desire to read about their personal histories of grievances, grudges, or axe sharpening schedules.
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Thu Aug-07-08 03:01 AM
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2. against charter to discriminate against french (or others) coming as immigrants.
1. probably violate language laws.
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Tue Aug-19-08 04:14 PM
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16. Are you suggesting that Canada has an open immigration policy? |
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For example, if one million Palestinian refugees and one million Israeli citizens decided to to live and work in Canada starting within the next 367 days, then would the Supreme Court of Canada forbid the Canadian government from taking any action to impede them?
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Sun Aug-10-08 05:16 PM
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7. Question about language laws in Quebec |
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This is my first post in this forum.
Commercial signs are required to be predominantly French. 2thirds/1thirds is commonly used but there is no exact rule as to size.
Political signs have no restrictions.
There is some confusion as to signs that carry the name of the store. If it is a trademark English can be used. If the company has a french language trademark, then the french one must be used.
An example would be STAPLES stores which operate in Quebec under the name BUREAU EN GROS. They would not be able to use STAPLES because of the existence of the french trademark.
Quebec actually has good relations with most of the first nations and its minority groups (give or take a few angry-phones). The purpose of the language law is to promote the use of french in a province(state) and not to subordinate the value of other languages.
quick definitions: Franco-phone = Maternal language is French Anglo-phone = Maternal language is english Allo-phone = Maternal language is other than french or english Angry-phone = maternal language is english and constantly gripe about the fact that franco-phones decided take back their province in the 1960s with the quiet revolution and cannot handle the fact that they are a minority in the province but would rather go back to the good old days when the "english and the church" ruled over an uneducated majority french population.
Angry-Phone is a term invented be me while listening to talk radio in Quebec.
On the night of the last referendum, Jacques Parizeau blamed ethnics and money for the loss of the referendum. It was blaming more than immigrants , it was blaming all none white pure bred franco-phones for the loss. Jacques Parizeau that night showed his true side, a side that many knew existed but most did not know about. While there was cheating on both sides, to blame ethnic groups who are supposed to be "Quebecers" with the same democratic rights as others was shameful.
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Sun Aug-10-08 07:09 PM
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8. Good answer and Welcome to DU and the Canadian Forum! |
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I found your post to be very informative, thanks for doing it, much appreciated.
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Fri Aug-15-08 09:13 PM
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10. Bienvenue ... et merci d'avoir mis les pendules à l'heure. lol |
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Fri Aug-15-08 11:38 PM
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Et la réponse offerte semble avoir satisfait l'OP. Enfin, on peut toujours espérer.
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Sat Aug-16-08 06:29 AM
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12. Would the "Angryphones" be the children of the famous "Westmount Rhodesians"? |
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