Hey CBC Honchos! My Bum Is on the Line!

[CHIMO]

Hey CBC Honchos! My Bum Is on the Line!
Bill Richardson muses as he pickets, and sends a message.

The thing about men is we're lucky in our asses. As we age, our faces wrinkle and cave. Our paunches widen. Our hairlines recede. But with very little care or attention, with no more effort than it takes to walk up and down the stairs a few times a day, we can, for the most part, maintain very nice asses.

I am a case in point. My ass is my best feature, by a long shot. I have no pecs, no quads, no bi- or tri-ceps. I have a one pack where my six-pack should be, and I slouch terribly, but my ass is a wonder to behold. Whenever I'm feeling down or dispirited -- quite often, these days -- I just twist on my axis as best I can and have good long gander at those yeasty loaves, those firm peaches, those burnished hillocks, that marmolean splendour. "Bernini thou shouldst be living at this hour," I say. I say, "Nice ass, Bill. Niiiiiiiiiiiiice ass." Not that I think I'm special, mind. Lots of guys are likewise endowed. That's the thing about men.

Picket parade

The thing about walking a picket line is that it's really, really, really dull. As one of the CBC's 5500 workers who have been forbidden entry to our workplaces, I'm spending 20 hours a week thus engaged-that's what the Union requires to qualify for strike pay, or "lockout pay" in this case -- and by the end of each day's quite short shift, I'm on the verge of boredom-driven insanity. Not that I mean to whine, for I know I am a privileged person, and of course I have the blessing of my ass to see me through the hard times. That acknowledged, it must be said that when you picket, time drags a ball and chain.

I offer this up for one reason only, and that is that I care. To both sides I say, take our beautiful asses. They are yours to use. Do not fuck them over any more. Just put them on the table. Because right now, they are seriously on the line.

http://www.thetyee.ca/Views/2005/08/28/CBCHonchos/

Sounds like one sad goat.

[Maple]

1. Well he could get his ass

back to work, and then he wouldn't have time to indulge in some rather...cough... weird fantasy.

[CHIMO]

2. Pray Tell

How he should get back to work?

[Maple]

3. Settle

[CHIMO]

4. Perhaps

You haven't heard, but the workers have been locked out. I can only presume that your idea of settlement is that they should accept the government's conditions.

[Maple]

5. The union chose to quibble

CBC chose to lock-out.

The ball is currently in the union court.

[CHIMO]

6. Wrong!

The ball is in the government's court!

[Maple]

7. If he believes that,

he can walk the pavement right through to Xmas then

3rd strike in 7 years?

If you don't like where you work, find another job.

[CHIMO]

9. Perhaps

You think grammar is quibbling, but a lock out is not a strike. And if one believes in a market economy one has to accept that it exists within the rules set by the rulers.

Guess that Martin is going to see what happens when he cries "fox" a second time.

[Maple]

11. I'm aware of the difference

If you don't like your job, move to another one.

Basic market economy rule.

Union voted 87% for a strike.

So now they're stuck with one. Their problem.

[CHIMO]

12. Don't

Know where you get your news but I have not read where the union voted for a strike.

Again your comprehension of the english language is severally lacking or or suffers from dyslexia(selective interpretation).

[Maple]

13. Noooooooooo sympathy

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/19/cmg050719.html

"Strike vote at CBC 87 per cent
Last Updated Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:26:02 EDT
CBC News
The CBC's largest union has voted overwhelmingly in favour of a strike if its negotiators can't get a deal with the corporation.

The Canadian Media Guild (CMG) announced Tuesday afternoon that its members had voted 87.3 per cent to support taking strike action, if necessary."

[CHIMO]

14. English Language

CBC locked out its employees. Workers did not go on strike.

Facts are facts.

Stop with the red herrings.

Face the facts.

[Maple]

15. And as soon as you learn it

you'll discover why I have noooooo sympathy.

You're wasting your time trying to convince me on this, and you know it.

They either get back to work, or they pound pavement.

Simple choice.

[CHIMO]

16. Thought That You

Wanted my sympathy.

No one is asking for your sympathy.

You are dreaming if you think I am trying to convince you. You don't change beliefs by trying to convince someone. The facts are there. One has to believe in something else to ignore the facts.

Dragging red herrings across issues may tire someone out but doesn't mean that your logic prevails.

The CBC locked out its employees. The government, headed by Martin, has locked out the CBC employees.

[Maple]

17. Actually I said

*I* have no sympathy for locked out CBC employees.

They started it. Their problem.

The long dead NDP agenda means nothing to me either. Or to most other Canadians.

You'd think Martin had nothing better to do all day than run around micromanaging everything to hear the Dippers and the Cons talk. :rofl:

[CHIMO]

18. One More Time

Maybe we can get it yet.

The CBC locked out its employees.

Now the recent meetings that the Liberals had on the prairies had the rank and file members complaining about the CBC strike.

As you probably are aware there is a federal election coming up.

Well as most are aware, the Liberals campaign from the left and rule from the right.

So it seems that the big CBC managers screwed up royally in their timing.

The CBC locked out its employees.

[Maple]

19. The employees

voted to go on strike.

The CBC made a pre-emptive move.

That's the employee's problem not mine.

I haven't the slightest interest in it.

Either settle, or pound pavement. No sympathy

And there won't be an election till next year.

[CHIMO]

20. Encore

The CBC locked out its employees.

And there are only five months till next year.

Good suggestion of yours for the CBC to settle.

Again selective use of the english language is a red herring.

The CBC locked out its employees.

[Maple]

21. Sorry...don't care

Play games all you want.

There is more important news than your semantic shuffle.

[IntravenousDemilo]

24. Oh, for Christ's sake!!!

I've been reading this pointless back-and-forth with growing annoyance and ebbing patience. Yadda yadda srike lockout strike lockout strike lockout yadda yadda.

Do you even know the difference between a strike and a lockout?

[iverglas]

22. and the voice of the "liberal" is heard, this time

If you don't like your job, move to another one.
Basic market economy rule.

Yeah, that's the society my grandfather worked his lifetime for -- both as a union member, surviving the Depression and fighting for the 40-hour-week, and just as a regular decent member of society doing the right thing whenever the opportunity arose.

We all spend our lives working away so that the BOSSES can say "if you don't like your job, get another one".

That's what Canada is all about, right?

Right, indeed.

[justinsb]

23. I don't even think Maple is a Liberal

There are alot of Liberals supporting us, I think he's a Harperite.

[iverglas]

25. I'm quite sure Maple is a Liberal

(never been sure whether Maple is a he or a she, though ;) )

But I was saying "liberal", not "Liberal", this time.

"Liberal" with a small "l", as in 18th-century philosophical self-interest & 19th-century laissez-faire economic ideology, as in "neo-liberal" these days.

We're seeing another example of how Liberals are stuck with Canada's labour relations arrangements (things like the Rand Formula being what help to keep us from becoming just another part of the deep south of the US in terms of the labour market and the economy in general), and have to pretend officially to like them, but come unstuck and go back to being the bosses' friends when they blow their cover.

Maple is able to pretend, most of the time, that the Liberals are lovely and everybody loves the Liberals, without much having to actually say anything, since the Liberals tend not to actually do much most of the time ... but then something like this happens. Canadians actually do like the CBC ... but Canadians are (supposedly) in mad passionate love with the Liberal Party ... potentially irreconcilable notions ... cognitive dissonance ... it does not compute ... so let's dump on labour, that's always bound to find an eager audience somewhere.

Most Liberals, true, might think discretion the better part of valour in such instances. But unlike the situation when Liberals talk about, say, health care, there isn't really anybody else around for a Liberal to blame. It's either/or, here -- if ya don't blame the union, ya gotta blame some Liberals ... and we know that *that* can't happen.

[Maple]

26. Actually Maple is neither a he nor a Liberal

and the difference between a strike and a lockout are quite clear.

So is the solution for those bored and broke while pounding the pavement. Get back to work.

[iverglas]

27. ah, not got a party card?

Party cards or the absence thereof do necessarily make or break slavish adherence to party line, of course. ("Slavish", while used here as if is used in common parlance, isn't really appropriate; obstinately persisting in a course of action that is to one's own benefit is hardly characteristic of a slave.)

Yes, I was rather sure about the "she" part, just never know whether someone else has more perfect knowledge than I.

Anyhoo ... ain't it funny how someone who clams to know the meaning of the word "lockout" can just keep on spouting a line of nonsense? --

So is the solution for those bored and broke while pounding the pavement. Get back to work.

Maybe it needs to be made yet clearer, or the answer to what I would have thought was really a rhetorical question requested:

How exactly do unionized employees who have no collective bargain with their employer go to work?

Methinks they would be characterized as trespassers, and treated accordingly, meself.

[Maple]

29. I'm an Independent, actually

Although it's hardly illegal to be a Liberal. Most Canadians are, in fact, liberal Liberals.

I guess you didn't notice that negotiations are re-starting hmmm?

Lonely out there on the pavement I guess.

[iverglas]

31. dang, eh?

It just keeps going and going.

Although it's hardly illegal to be a Liberal.

"Although" ... like, someone said something incompatible with the assertion that it is not illegal to be a Liberal? I give up.

Most Canadians are, in fact, liberal Liberals.

Oh yes, unlike your "Independent" self, most Canadians own Liberal party cards.

Well, at the rate Dave Basi and his boys were apparently selling them, small wonder, I guess.

Btw, what's this "Independent" business? You mistaking this country for some other one? Where'd you get the notion that there are "Independents" hereabouts?

I guess you didn't notice that negotiations are re-starting hmmm?

I guess you can tell us all what that might have to do with anything that has anything at all to do with your persistent misrepresentation of a lockout as something that union members can solve by just going back to work ...

Hmmmmmmm?

[Maple]

32. We have several Independents in Parliament

pretty well always have had. And the majority of Canadians never bother with party cards, but still only ever vote for that one party.

Others, swing voters, vote however they feel on election day. They are the ones the campaigns are directed towards.

Seems the pavement walkers got tired, and signalled they might be willing to make some concessions.

Hey, don't take your union fights out on me. It's your problem, you solve it. Yell at your fellow strikers.

[iverglas]

33. what on earth are you on about now?

Hey, don't take your union fights out on me. It's your problem, you solve it. Yell at your fellow strikers.

So what the fuck was that icky little outburst all about?

I belonged to a union for 10 months in 1976-77. First, last and only time.

So, that little bit of unpleasantness just ended up looking droolingly stupid there on the monitor, didn't it? Not that it wouldn't have looked just the same if I did happen to belong to a union ... simply because it made not a drop of sense.

And the majority of Canadians never bother with party cards, but still only ever vote for that one party.

Funny how that party doesn't often manage to actually get a majority of the votes then, isn't it just? I mean, with that majority of Canadians voting for it and all. And not even *with* those swing voters, in point of fact.

More sense-deprived pronouncements from nowheresville ...

We have several Independents in Parliament

Mmm hmm. So you're in Parliament now, are you?

Maybe you haven't realized that they are independent members of Parliament, *not* members of Parliament for the Independent party? They don't actually have Independent constituents, you see. Yeesh.

Or maybe you can offer us some snippets from the Independent platform that I would otherwise assume you share with them .........

[Maple]

36. Would you prefer I spoke in Greek?

Because you don't seem to be doing too well understanding plain English.

Or is it just that you're in a bad mood, and have decided to take it out on me?

Either way, I'm not interested in talking to someone that needs a cold shower and defoaming.

Nite.

[iverglas]

37. ah, diversionary grooming

You say *to me*:

Hey, don't take your union fights out on me. It's your problem, you solve it. Yell at your fellow strikers.

but oopsie, I'm not a striker, I don't belong to a union, I don't have a problem. And my post actually didn't have much to do with unions, or any union, or any "union fight". And even if it had, your post didn't make a stitch of sense, because nobody at all had been talking about any "union fights". Your post was just randomly rude and pointless.

You, apparently, were taking something out on me ... or just hanging around an internet discussion forum saying random unpleasant things to people you don't have the slightest knowledge about or interest in, in the course of discussions that you have no intention of participating in, about things you either know nothing about or are hell-bent on misrepresenting.

Or is it just that you're in a bad mood, and have decided to take it out on me?

More to the point, is it just that you're attempting to portray me as someone I'm not and as having done something I didn't do, since attempting to portray people and events in the news as things they aren't isn't going too well for you?

Either way, I'm not interested in talking to someone that needs a cold shower and defoaming.

Hee hee hee. When attempting to portray issues and events as something they aren't isn't working, it's always worth attempting to portray the people in the way of that effort as something they aren't. Sure beats hell out of arguing one's own position. I guess.


editing edited for grammar ... must've forgot my cold shower this morning ...

[justinsb]

28. Good thinking

tell the CBC to unlock the doors and have security stand down :eyes:

[Maple]

30. Sure, put down the signs

dump the demands, and get back to work.

[Lautremont]

34. I understand now.

You're doing an hilarious impersonation of a turn-of-the-last-century robber-baron capitalist to keep us all amused. Very convincingly played!

[Maple]

35. Whatever

[metis]

8. Lockout

Strike? Lockout?...big difference. I was locked out once by a labour dispute at a TV station. CBC is locked out.

[justinsb]

10. We are locked out

and so far management is rebuffing any attempts to get back to the table. It might have something to do with the fact that they are saving nearly $1 million a day by not paying anyone. Everyone wants to go back to work, but not at the cost of just taking managements offer (which is a joke) carte blanche and that's what it would take right now.

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