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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:21 PM
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I'm getting VERY worried
Is THIS going to be the new German Chancellor?



She's TOTALLY going to FU Europe I fear :scared:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:22 PM
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1. They don't mince words in Europe. Wow!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:24 PM
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2. OMG! Hope they enjoy their freedom of expression while they have it.
Blair has learned all sorts of new tricks from * & I imagine she will, too.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:30 PM
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7. She's scary
She doesn't LOOK that scary, but don't judge a book by its cover. However, I fear the Germans are going to put her and the CSU in...btw, the CSU have HUGE support in Bavaria in particular, hot bed of German Nationalism and Neo-Nazi sympathies.

Fit right in with Junior won't they?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:54 PM
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17. Worrying
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 03:35 PM by LeftishBrit
Most German Conservative leaders haven't really been all that bad; but Merkel looks like a Thatcher-wannabe.

I think the vote is more against Schroeder and the current economic situation, rather than for Merkel, so perhaps things will change soon. However, probably here in 1979, the vote was more against Callaghan and the economic situation, rather than for Thatcher, and look what happened. Here's to Germany NOT getting 18 years of Merkel-ism!
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:57 PM
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19. Callaghan
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 03:03 PM by ...of J.Temperance
You know something odd? Callaghan was more popular than Thatcher, it was the Labour Party as a whole that actually lost the election. I remember I watched an Election '79 programme on the BBC Parliament Channel last year, and they had a poll, who'd you prefer as PM and Callaghan beat Thatcher.

Sad or what?
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Kicked in the Taco Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:20 PM
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23. I dunno
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 04:00 PM by Kicked in the Taco
Obviously I think her election would be bad news and would probably lead to Germany buying much more heavily into the War on Terra, but I tend to think the Thatcher comparisons are a bit of an overstatement- from what I've heard, she doesn't really have much in the way of either firm ideology or a particularly strong hold over her party (let alone the rest of the coalition). One German friend of mine's view was that she'd basically drag germany bag to the stagnation of the Kohl years.

I could be way off- after all, Thatcher actually ran a fairly moderate campaign in 1979 compared to a lot of what she ended up doing. But I really think the media slaps the "<insert name of contry>'s Thatcher" label far too readily on any female conservative leader- they did it to Kim Campbell back in '93, to give one example.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:37 PM
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24. I use the term for right-wing male leaders too!
E.g. for Bush - though it turned out that the term was inadequate. Thatcher, with all her faults, was at least not a theocrat.
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Kicked in the Taco Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 04:15 PM
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26. Fair enough
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 04:16 PM by Kicked in the Taco
It wasn't my intention to criticise you personally for making the comparison, if you think Merkel is that right wing then I agree it's a fair one (though, as i said, not one I'm sure I agree with- not yet, at least). However, having seen this comparison increasingly crop up in the British press lately, I really do think they tend to lazily characterise female heads or potential heads of government as being "Thatchers" purely on the basis of their coming from that same 51% of the population as the evil one. I don't think they even neccesarily have to be conservatives, going way back I'm sure I remember Edith Cresson being described as the "French Thatcher"- and she was a socialist!
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:25 PM
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3. What is this?
Seriously ... can you explain the context? I'm very curious.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:28 PM
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4. Sure
Remember when the Psycho Monkey went to Germany, and he was scheduled to "speak" in Mainz, but it got scrapped because the German's wouldn't let him have his hand-picked audience?

Well, as with EVERYWHERE shit-fer-brains goes, there were MASSIVE anti-Bush protests in Germany. This picture is from those protests, her name is Angela Merkel, she a Neo-Con and Bush arselicker, hence the picture.
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Applan Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:31 PM
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9. That's one heck of a statement
See the smiling faces of the people?
Priceless!!
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 01:42 AM
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27. Wow ... thanks.
Shocking ... frankly, but wow. I guess Austrians have Jorg Haider (if a good comparison) but it feels close.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:28 PM
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5. Now that's my idea of a vigil - mocking the birthing of a Turd.
See this is what we are doing wrong - we need street theater. Sad to say but people come out to see a show.
Suppose the figure was the media and a scroll reading lies was coming out of it's butt?

OR instead of a scroll ...

Judy Judy Judy - don't worry even I wouldn't do that to a CON.:evilgrin:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:29 PM
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6. Nominated just for the Pic.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:31 PM
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8. I fear if you
Ever did something like this, I fear you might get carted off to Gitmo.
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Arkansas Democrat Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:36 PM
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11. Was this
something that Bush saw? I see everyone is enjoying the "art work"! :)
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:50 PM
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16. Gosh
They COULDN'T let Junior see something like THIS. If he did, then he'd have one of his Leatherface moments...like we KNOW he does. Hence Junior NOT ever being allowed to meet regular people, hence his audiences having to be screened and hand-picked. Because he's a PSYCHO when confronted with criticism and his handlers are desperate to keep that hidden from the public.

Everyone's smiling in the picture because it's true and it's hilarious.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:44 PM
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13. That reminds me of the Pants On Fire mobile going around the U.S.
Street theatre - literally.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:32 PM
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10. I do love those Europeans
But where would they be without us. I lived in Germany from 1974-2002 in the military and after I retired from the military. I firmly believe that the only reason we invaded France in 1944 was not so much to beat Germany, but to keep Russia from taking all of Europe after it ran over Germany. After the war we stayed and spent untold billions of dollars to keep Europe free. During this time europe was able to rebuild and use the savings from not having to have a huge military to create the great social programs they have today. I love europe and at the same time I wish they could remember where would they be at today it wasn't for us.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:43 PM
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12. They obviously see something dangerous in W
Maybe he feels familiar in a very bad way.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:46 PM
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14. Then why not have Bush's ass sticking out
instead of Uncle Sam. Instead of being a protest against Bush it is a put down on all Americans.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:54 PM
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18. Bush would
Be sticking out of Cheney's arse. Bush is just the puppet. Bush couldn't stick out of Rove's arse, because if one did a paper mache of Karl Rove, the arse would be so big that there wouldn't have been any ROOM for any protestors :)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:09 PM
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22. I didn't take it personally
The Uncle Sam in the effigy looks like it has a pig's butt. I immediately took it to mean certain Americans, not me.
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RageFist Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:42 PM
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29. I'm American and I detest the "Uncle Sam"
idea and reject it as baseless propoganda anyhow.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:50 PM
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15. I am grateful to FDR and the WW2 American troops but...
I am not grateful to Bush. He was born in 1946, and had nothing to do with the last war.

I am glad that Russia was prevented from taking over the whole of Europe and have nothing but hatred and horror for Stalinism. But at the same time, I think it's a great pity that Reagan was so ready to build up the forerunners of the Taliban, just because they were opposing the Russians.

Countries and governments change hugely with time; and one can't base political support on what was going on 60, 30 or even 10 years ago. As regards Germany, I am very glad that they are NOT the same country as they were in WW2!!!

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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:01 PM
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20. They know how to wreck them, don't they?
Rectum - why they damn near killed em.

Gosh there's a word you don't want to google for pics.
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Kicked in the Taco Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:05 PM
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21. it's sure looking interesting
Looks like Schroder's making a bit of a comeback now after looking dead and buried a few weeks ago. It'll also be interesting to see how the new (well, sort of) Left Party does, if only because one of their leaders is Oskar Lafontaine- one of the Sun's favourite hate figures from the late 90s when he was pushing european tax harmonisation (which of course translates into Sunese as "pushing for the assimilation of Britain into a kraut-led commie superstate dictatorship").

Great pic, by the way.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 03:57 PM
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25. I love that pic
I hope no one lets Merkel anywhere near the office of PM.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:01 PM
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28. Germany is cool kick
1968 is cool
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