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Thu Dec-02-04 02:16 AM
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I was going to invite some academics and other people to participate and help on the effort of challenging the legitimacy of the last election but after what I have witnessed tonight, I guess that would be a waste of their time.
Regards and good night.
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:18 AM
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It's not a waste of time. Don't let a few people who are hell bent on flame wars keep you away. This is what Rove wants, people! He wants to make us fight and get disgusted with each other...like is happening, right now.
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:20 AM
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2. Samuel Tilden and Rutherford Hayes |
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:21 AM
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 02:23 AM by SomthingsGotaGive
If you are going to let a flame war question the legitimacy of your fight for democracy then you never really cared in the first place.
It's probably better you don't sully your reputation in lofty academic circles by dragging them through the trenches.
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Lone Pawn
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:21 AM
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4. You expect something less than partisan rancor on DU? |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 02:23 AM by Lone Pawn
You do realize we're Free Republic's good twin, right? You know, despite the fact that we're non-evil, non-immoral, non-warmongering, and pro-liberty, we're still partisans. We may be a vibrant, amazing community, but it's a community of partisans. We may be the greatest progressive nexus on the Internets, but we're still a nexus of partisans. I'm surprised you thought DU was anything else.
We're mostly very intelligent people, but there are those of us that take partisanship to an extreme. And hyperpartisans don't give. Surprised you didn't pick up on that too.
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:37 AM
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14. psst...you forgot one.... |
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..."non-retarded".
Thank you.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:47 AM
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24. The infiltrators: We can know them by the fruits of their labor. |
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They are divisive. They stifle our communication, pollute our threads, impede our research, kill our momentum, deplete our energy, demoralize, humiliate, and divide.
I am going to keep posting this, because one of them went after me rabidly last week and I allowed it to really get me down. Not gonna let it happen again.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:49 AM
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25. sorry-meant for this to go after post #5 -nt |
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:38 AM
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:24 AM
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5. Not sure what you're getting at but it looks to me as if Freepers have |
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taken over this site. I just looked in this forum a minute ago and it looks like it's been taken over by anti-Bev Harris postings. What's going on?
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:25 AM
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Personally, I'm on his side with this. It's not freepers, really.
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:27 AM
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9. Folks that don't like the fact that Ms Harris is not a diplomat |
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Let's just call it silliness. As one cannibal said as he ate his fellow cannibal, this too shall pass!
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Straight Shooter
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:27 AM
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10. Just a good ol' friendly barfight |
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Blowing off steam. Oh, if Kerry could see us now :P
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:29 AM
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11. Does anti Bev = freeper? |
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I'm not anti bev but I don't think she hung the moon. I don't think what she is doing is advancing the cause. Does that make me a freeper?
Tc
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:39 AM
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16. How many times are you going to say you're not a freeper? |
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:58 AM
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19. how many times are people going to get accused of being freepers... |
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when they just disagree? Really, come one, dems are supposed to be the more open-minded ones.
Liberal: 1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. 2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:10 AM
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23. I have never bothered to say I wasn't a freeper. |
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In fact I've only been accused of being a freeper one time, and I wouldn't dignify it with a response. So I don't know what you are talking about.
My Point, since you missed it, Are we allowed to be suspicious and critical of BEV without being called a freeper?
TC
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:25 AM
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6. It is not always like this. |
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I think the fact that time appears to be running out has a bunch of folks on edge. Invite them to participate but warn them that folks get a little crazy some times. If they are sociologists or pyschologists, they may find the discourse fascinating (if not scary).
A belated welcome to DU. :hi:
Don't give up on us, it is just an off, off, off night! :silly:
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:25 AM
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8. You should go on, the continued voter suppression warrants it. |
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Hot debate here is nothing new, the voting injustices need real analysts
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:33 AM
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12. I think we should just all go to our rooms. n/t |
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:34 AM
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13. GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND KICK THINGS |
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Get these top level BH and KO threads under control,folks. It's in your power to do so. Don't just sit there complaining. Read on page 3, and write lots of responses and kick topics up.
(I haven't replied to a BH/KO thread in over an hour. You should try not to do so as well, even the ones complaining about BH and KO like this one.)
This is a complete and utter distraction we don't need right now.
(P.S. if you don't feel like kicking, go over to the Voter Issues forum and read our many neglected articles there.)
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:41 AM
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17. Guilty. And you're absolutely right. |
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:55 AM
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18. I agree and was writing this when I saw your post. |
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I was planning on starting my first thread here tonight, but it just didn't feel right. After several great weeks here mostly reading, and posting a little over the last few days, I found it pretty disheartening tonight with all of the infighting. Especially with momentum on our side. Yes today's news wasn't great, but we are in a lot better shape than we were in two weeks ago in terms of getting to the bottom of this Selection mess. I'm guessing that many of us are sleep deprived, stressed out by the goings on over the last MONTH, and from precious little news out of the Kerry camp.
So I'm going to postpone that first thread, and find as many positive threads as I can from the last several days and kick 'em to the top. Then off the bed.
See ya'll tomorrow.
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Thu Dec-02-04 03:33 AM
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This is an ugly night on the boards. Our democracy is being secreted away and we tear at each other over Bev and Olberman. Just like they planned it, I guess.
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Thu Dec-02-04 03:55 AM
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Tomorrow everything will be better - :)
yeah, maybe.
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Thu Dec-02-04 04:01 AM
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22. It can only be better than this was! n/t |
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