rehema
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:00 PM
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Just Say NO (Posts) to those keeping Stuff going over Keith/Bev nt |
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There are MORE important things going on
Just stop responding to posts which seems to be distracting from the REAL problem ELECTION FRAUD
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:02 PM
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1. Oh, but Moooooom! It's so much fuuuuun! |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 12:04 PM by crispini
I'd much rather enjoy a nice argument than settle down to productive discussion!
Actually, the sad thing is, I DO enjoy a nice argument. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! :D
Don't worry, it'll settle down in a day or two.
On edit: I recommend judicious use of the HIDE THREAD feature. If ya don't wanna see those threads, just don't see them.
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:02 PM
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2. Thank you for speaking sense. |
rockedthevoteinMA
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:06 PM
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Too new here to form an opinion on any of it, and it's giving me a headache watching so many bicker.
I am not asking for rebuttal or explanations - I have seen most of what has gone on, and I just want to concentrate on the fraud story, not this who's on our side stuff.
Thanks again :)
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:11 PM
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4. Yes, thank you. This fight is de-railing our efforts in exposing e-vote |
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problems. Whatever side one is on, we need to refocus. Not to mention, remember this is not a private fight.
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:13 PM
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The important thing is that the tapes get exposure, which Bev is preventing, and what we are trying to get done.
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:18 PM
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10. If that's your goal... |
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...then driving a wedge between Keith and Bev is not the way to do it. The discussions here over the last 24 hours having been pitting Keith and Bev against one another. How does that better the chance that Keith and Bev will work together?
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LoZoccolo
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:39 PM
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11. The wedge is in Bev's hands. |
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All she has to do is give the tapes, and forget the he-said she-said in favor of the efforts of the anti-black box voting movement. In that way, Keith and Bev work together. Supporting Bev right now means supporting her untactful means of dealing with this, and thus driving a wedge.
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:49 PM
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13. Initial statement could have read like this: |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 12:49 PM by AmyCrat
"We are investigating the possibility that there has been a misunderstanding between the Countdown with KO Show and BlackBoxVoting.org regarding his recent editorial (link). We do wish to appear on the show, and will work with KO and his staff to resolve any conflicts and keep you posted."
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LoZoccolo
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:53 PM
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There's no mention of any current effort to get the tapes aired, only a demand for a retraction. I don't see who has an interest in a retraction besides Bev - demanding this is not how you lead a movement of people you represent who have given you money.
Please Bev, do what's best for your supporters. The most likely way to possibly get an apology is get the tapes aired.
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pointsoflight
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:58 PM
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17. Absolutely. So let's encourage this kind of friendly dialogue... |
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...rather than bash on one or the other, call them liars, send them nasty e-mails, etc. That does no good to our cause. I have little doubt that the tone of Bev's statement is at least partially because she's upset about all of the posts and e-mails jumping on Keith's side and calling her a liar, a fraud, a selfish person, etc. And today I wouldn't be surprised if Keith lashed back, spurred on the the nasty e-mails he's been getting.
If we want them to work together, wouldn't it be best to set aside our personal opinions, and politely ask both of them to set aside their misunderstanding/differences for the greater cause?
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pointsoflight
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:51 PM
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14. I'm not suggesting you support her... |
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...but that we foster friendly dialogue between the two of them, rather than encourage them to keep up with the he-said she-said arguments. Right now, the inflammatory e-mails in Bev's and Keith's mailboxes are undoubtedly ticking them off and making them less interested in working together. If you don't see that, you don't get human nature.
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:13 PM
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:15 PM
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8. I think it is a Rovian tactic to divide us and distract us |
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Bev and Keith are grownups and they will work it out.
And this is much bigger than either of them.
As you said "there are MORE important things going on"
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:17 PM
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9. i'll fifth that let those posts die n/t |
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:47 PM
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12. I'm glad people are catching on quick about these things. |
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Too bad the learning curve couldn't have been at least a day faster :)
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:53 PM
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16. It's too bad your thread was hijacked to talk about Bev and Keith. |
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