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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:48 PM
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New Hardblogger item
on Kerry and the recounts

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/

Sorry if this is a dup...It's hard to wade thru the KO/Bev threads to see what is what.

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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:52 PM
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1. Good blog article. Sounds like he is starting to catch the nasty smell
coming from Ohio.
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:55 PM
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2. Very good article
Thank you for posting it!

:hi:
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:55 PM
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3. Great article.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 12:58 PM
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4. Not Bad...
He questions Blackwell and Mitofsky, and that's a good thing!
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:01 PM
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5. Another positive step
It seems that we have moved beyond the tin foil in MSM.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:04 PM
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6. I heard on some show that the reason Kerry joined the Delaware County
lawsuit was because it would set a bad precedent for one county to be able to decide to not go along with a state wide recount - especially a county controlled by one partisan side from the election.

Would somebody send this explanation to Shuster? I can't, my Outlook doesn't work.

It is easy to see why Kerry was so leery of jumping into any of this without some concrete evidence.
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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:05 PM
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7. hardthinking

Slowly the more 'conventional' commentators are beginning to recognize...

<Unfortunately, every development in Ohio is now subject to incredible claims and speculation. And why not? Before an election recount petition can actually begin, Ohio must first "certify" its results. Now, 4 weeks after the election, (and just 2 weeks before Ohio's 20 electoral votes are sent to Congress) the Ohio certification is still dragging on at a snail's pace. Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell seems unconcerned. Did I mention that Kenneth Blackwell was the chairman in Ohio for the Bush-Cheney campaign? Did you know that based on his timeline for the certification period, recount filing date, and then the recount itself... Ohio will have exactly one day to examine and recount 6 million votes before Ohio's electoral slate is formally sent to Congress? And yet my colleagues and I sometimes wonder why the "conspiracy theorists" on the net are going nuts.

The fact is, a lot of people over the last month have blown opportunities to tamp down the internet wildfire and restore some confidence in the outcome of the 2004 election. The exit polling organization (that received $10 million from the networks, by the way) should have come out weeks ago and explained why their exit polls were inaccurate? I accept the group's quiet explanations that their workers, in some states, were improperly trained and that the mathematical models analysts relied upon throughout the day were problematic. But the consortium should should swallow their pride, hold a full blown press conference, and help douse the fire that is raging. And Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell would help himself and the nation by speeding up Ohio's election certification so the recount can start immediately. The way to get even with those recount petitioners is to prove their allegations baseless and do it well before Ohio's electors are sent to Congress.

Unfortunately, the key players in this story seem to be just bumbling along and adding fuel to the fire instead of taking steps to put it out. How sad.>

He just forgot to think about it - and ask: why?

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 01:05 PM
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8. But what about this?
Last few lines..

"The way to get even with those recount petitioners is to prove their allegations baseless and do it well before Ohio's electors are sent to Congress."
"Unfortunately, the key players in this story seem to be just bumbling along and adding fuel to the fire instead of taking steps to put it out. How sad."


Baseless? really now. Are you sure he's paying attention?

hopefully he's being sarcastic.....
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