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Thu Dec-02-04 12:58 PM
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This is just Act One. Get your popcorn ready. |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 01:44 PM by TruthIsAll
Rove probably never thought Kerry would seek a recount - because Bush "won" by 3.5 million. Not even close.
The whoremedia fell for it at first, of course.
But then the word started to spread like wildfire on the Net.
-Lots of strange numerical results - all in Bush's favor. -Talk of terror alert lockouts in Cleveland - all in Bush's favor . -Exit Polls way out of line with the tallies - all in Bush's favor. -Odds approaching infinity that all this working in Bush's favor could not just be due to chance - from professors in academia and DU.
We are witnessing Act One of an unfolding drama. The media needed to be brought kicking and screaming to recognize the fact that fraud DID occur. They do now.
In Act Two they will come to realize just how massive the fraud was.
In Act Three they will go after the Full Story.
Get your popcorn ready.
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:59 PM
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1. TIA I JUST LOVE YOUR WAY WITH WORDS (and Headers) |
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Thu Dec-02-04 12:59 PM
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Popcorn at the ready, fingers crossed.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:01 PM
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3. Remember, Watergate developed slowly too... |
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Today, the fraud reports have to be really careful in light of what happened to Dan Rather.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:05 PM
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...there's a big prize waiting for the reporter(s) who gets it right. That's enough incentive to not allow the story to drop.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:07 PM
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7. right now he is only winning by |
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96,000 in ohio with 98% in (that is including all stolen votes)
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:37 PM
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21. keepthemhonest! I hope you're right! I read somewhere Bush's |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 01:47 PM by Verve
votes increased to 136000. I can't find up to the date vote counts. Where'd you get your info? On edit: I found the website so you don't have to respond. Here's up to the minute reporting: http://election.sos.state.oh.us/results/RaceDetail.aspx?race=PP
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:07 PM
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Hopefully KO's rating increase in the last few weeks will wake some people up. As for Rather, in my paper this morning there was a Ed letter compairing Rather to a pig iron anchor. I'm not suprised the major newscasters don't want to stick their necks out. But I hope SOMEONE does!
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:07 PM
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6. I agree that there are phases to this and we are entering a new one |
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Phase one was complete silence and pretending there was no fraud.
After way too long, and mostly not until Jesse Jackson took up the fight, the MSM is finally starting to cover the story, first with derision and disbelief trying to make the story go away. Then after a bit they acknowledged some "irregularities" but not fraud. Phase two.
The new phase we are entering now is the begin of recounts, and the begin of the Kerry campaign's public involvement. This brings about a whole new phase of the media's spin against Kerry and anyone who wants a recount. The personal attacks are starting. The attacks against anyone who doubts the results or even hints at overturning the official results will begin to be immense. The results of legal efforts will determine the next phase. I just feel in my gut that the next two weeks there will be so much fireworks. It's just beginning to get good.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:07 PM
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waiting in the wings and when we win. I'll have to crack that bottle of bubbly that has been on ice since 11/02/04-
Someone call Hunter S. Thompson and tell him to get his champagne out as well
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:09 PM
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When RICO charges get levelled against the GOP's leadership at both national and state levels. This is interstate racketeering in it's purest and most pernicious form.
Media are still in lockdown. Let me know when they've been forced to cover the story. Then maybe I'll plug the TV back in.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:09 PM
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10. You guys should watch today's archived Washington Journal. |
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The first segment was regarding the fraud in Ohio and the guest Cliff Arnebeck was great. It gave me hope.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:10 PM
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11. I don't believe Act Three |
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will ever occur under media initiative like it did in Watergate. In essence the focus of a few major news channels was so total it created its own legs and impetus. The media in its present state is less likely to generate heat on its own and in fact I expect it to keep clamping down on dissent from mere habit if nothing else.
Act Two has to be very very big and CAN be more than you even state. The disclosures themselves can be greater than the Nixon tapes and the event itself, not sudden media turning, will drive the nation.
Judging by how they bow to the horror of the second Bush coming and the silence over the possibilities laid plainly before them, I don't expect ANYTHING from the cable or regular networks at all. As organizations that is.
It will actually unfold in spite of the media and WH 100%. And I would like to see the whole house of cards come down, not a small win of one hand of cheater's poker. THAT is possible too and is why someone should seriously start thinking of breaking lapdog ranks.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:17 PM
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16. Does anyone else here wonder |
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if maybe this has contributed to Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw "moving on"?
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:28 PM
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and ironically they go out without the real story even of their own departure. Just foolish myths and tiny statures magnified.
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:05 PM
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23. If any of the lapdogs actually bark |
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We'll be in for history-making events that will as likely make you choke on your popcorn as eat it. I expect nothing from the media unless the native unrest reaches a critical mass.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:11 PM
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While you are looking at your crystal ball can you tell me if I should lay the points against Green Bay or just play the over?
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:13 PM
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Thanks for the inspiration... |
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You just made my heart sing with your words... Thank you...
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:13 PM
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TruthIsAll. I do remember that Watergate started out like this, just a slow trickle at first...
With all the whirlwind insanity of the last few weeks of the * administration and the congressional doings it's sometimes hard to remember, but
It's not over. :)
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:13 PM
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14. I think your 'program' is just right |
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but we have to remember that this isn't just a spectator sport ;-)
we need to keep writing our representatives and vigilantly emailing the media. email them when they tell obvious lies. email them when they do great coverage. email them until they get the message that this isn't going away.
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:14 PM
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15. Hey, if I convert to a Repuke, can I hit the Powerball? |
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Please? I'll convert right back!
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:30 PM
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but following DU since the "election."
Is there any change of evidence for ballots. Surely somebody could get at them and swap what they needed to swap (say as they may have in New Hampshire.) Chain of evidence--security? These guys aren't going to let a few ballots get in their way. I have a feeling this is what happened in California's health care proposal. (Oh, look here! There's more ballots, Jimmy. . .)
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:31 PM
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I mean --chain of evidence--
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Thu Dec-02-04 01:58 PM
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22. To pop perfectly, the thing we all need to be aware of is timing. |
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It's one thing to think about popping it immediately and then having it sit for a while. ick... In 1972, it looked good and didn't end until August 1974 and then the midterm elections that year... So I guess I am asking which expiration date on the popcorn, 2004 or 2005.
The media is chained to their corporate masters and perform on demand, not on ncessity.
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:06 PM
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24. We should be serving popcorn to those members of the US... |
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....Senate and HR who are sitting in their seats, with nothing to do, because they do not have a quorum on 6 Jan 2005.
It'll be a nice gesture to remind that we are the government and we will not allow the government to proceed until a fair and properly validated election has occurred.
We did not have such an election on "2 Nov 2004" and all of us, including those members of the US Senate and House of Representatives who are truly serving our Constitution are more than happy to serve popcorn and chat with those who have defaulted on their responsibilty.
And, we can recite these words to them until they 'get it':
"Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged. Their clanking may be heard on the plains of...." -- thank you, once again, Patrick Henry.
Peace.
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:21 PM
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27. They should leave town like the Texas dems |
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did to deny a quorum for the Delay inspired redistricting. Let's see if Delay will send Homeland Security again.
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Thu Dec-02-04 03:19 PM
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29. Precisely! And we are the ones to help them pack and leave. |
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:10 PM
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"Egg-cellent! Release the hounds!"
I posted to some other thread about DEARGODIHATESEANHANNITY that you know it's on when they send out the warm-up acts...
Spin, Spin, Spin away... Shoulda known when the Murdoch-lady came on Tweety last night to tell us to not bother counting all those votes, cause it really doesn't matter.
That is what separates us from the animals (oh, and opposable thumbs, too).
Also, as I posted in some other thread: Game Fucking ON!
peace brother
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:20 PM
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26. Brilliant post Thank you! |
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TruthIsALL have you watched this on C - span yet? This is a must see for all get out the popcorn for any one who has missed it http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=WJE&ShowVidNum=6&Rot_Cat_CD=WJ&Rot_HT=205&Rot_WD=Cliff Arnebeck, Counsel in Lawsuit Challenging Presidential Election in Ohio Cliff Arnebeck is a modern day hero. I take back all my bad lawyer jokes
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Thu Dec-02-04 02:25 PM
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28. Yesterday David Corn, today popcorn. n/t |
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Thu Dec-02-04 03:25 PM
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31. The hell with popcorn! Start making protest signs! |
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Get in the play and march!
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Thu Dec-02-04 07:03 PM
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I'm not leaving this one to the media whores. I think they've proved that we can't trust them with an important message, when it gets heated they are just going to go for the Rovian spin. We must take this issue to the streets.
I hope it does become a spectacle, but WE must be the biggest part of it.
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Thu Dec-02-04 03:40 PM
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32. Not worth the price of the popcorn |
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Bad drama. At least in 2000 we had a hero who put up a fight, Al Gore. He lost to the bad guys, but at least he tried.
Our current 'hero' fled before the curtain even opened. He knew of the plot, he knew of the massive fraud months in advance, and yet did nothing.
The outcome of this pitiful spectacle has been predicted by me months ago. Bush will start his second term on Jan 20, Iran will be invaded by Fall 2005. Syria by winter 2007.
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Thu Dec-02-04 08:10 PM
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42. Malodetto, Malatesta! |
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You give ME a headache wherever you turn up!
God upholds the Truth tellers.
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Thu Dec-02-04 08:19 PM
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 08:21 PM by Faye
shit, we're not allowed to speak in different languages. Mods can't mod... :evilgrin:
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Thu Dec-02-04 03:53 PM
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The 3.5 Million indicates that they're likely not expecting much to come of this. They used that large buffer to cover up anything that could be found. But enough is being found still! They're sloppy and greedy. They'd have been better off giving him just an extra half mill.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi
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Thu Dec-02-04 04:03 PM
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34. can't wait for the recount to begin |
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No way b**h won Ohio. I know from your posts Kerry had a 4.2% lead in exit polling at 4pm. It will turn up , but nobody is expecting it to but us and the silent ones who comitted the fraud. I'll take a michelob with that.
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Thu Dec-02-04 06:54 PM
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35. I like mine buttered, easy on the salt. I like your scenario. n/t |
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Thu Dec-02-04 07:09 PM
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If it reaches act three, I'll upgrade to fine white wine with my popcorn. When the dust settles, it will have been the result of incredible work by people who genuinely love their country and refused to lie down and die. How ironic that the hypocrisy re Ukraine has fuelled more anger. Mandate appears to be Mandrake the magician.
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Thu Dec-02-04 07:13 PM
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For Rather and Brokaw on the conspiracy behind the main stream media black out?.....on say...9/11,wmd's, and the plethora of 'make it up as you go' policy featuring.... Carlyle, Haliburton, AmerikaInc... adnauseam
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Thu Dec-02-04 07:25 PM
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39. How much I want you to be right...priceless! Welcome to DU |
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Thu Dec-02-04 07:45 PM
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40. What's up with Peter Jennings? |
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He's the only one left of the big 3 networks.I guess his Bilderbeger friends keep him in line.He looks and acts like the ultimate kissbutt.
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Thu Dec-02-04 07:48 PM
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41. Don't forget Rove will also come out in full force |
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