IMOP Franklin County Ohio Is The Smoking Gun!

[sabra]

I know over the past month the 3,893 "ghosts" votes in Gahanna has been discussed many times. But to me this is the hard proof people are looking for in regards to fraud.

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http://www.newarkadvocate.com/news/stories/20041202/localnews/1685424.html

Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, said Kerry had 54 percent of the total vote, or 285,500 to 237,252 for Bush. Kerry's lead in the county widened by 7,171 votes from the unofficial results, largely because a computer glitch on election night recorded an extra 3,893 votes for Bush in one precinct.


Disks from that precinct, in the Columbus suburb of Gahanna, all had the correct total and workers have been unable to reproduce the error, Damschroder said.


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They are essentially telling us, they have no idea how this happened, as they can't recreate the bug. To me this puts the tabulation server (Windows 98/NT System) in question, as it appears that it has been compromised.

I truly hope that Franklin County will be investigated to the highest degree, because in my opinion this could be the one that opens things wide open!

[sabra]

1. Can Kerry Request an Investigation?

For the reason that the SOS can't give a direct explanation to why it happened? Or is this the GAO's territory?

[berniew1]

42. Voter Suppression: STEALING VOTES IN COLUMBUS (& Cleveland)

Voter Suppression: STEALING VOTES IN COLUMBUS

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/columbus.htm

The Free Press on Election Day posted a disturbing story, later confirmed by the Columbus Dispatch. The Free Press reported that Franklin County Board of Elections Director Matt Damschroder deliberately withheld voting machines from predominantly black Democratic wards in Columbus, and dispersed some of the machines to affluent suburbs in Franklin County. Damschroder is the former Executive Director of the Franklin County Republican Party. Sources close to the Board of Elections told the Free Press that Damschroder and Ohio’s Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell met with President George W. Bush in Columbus on Election Day. The idea was to discourage turnout in Democratic wards by forcing voters to wait in long lines at the polling places. Such a strategy would be far more effective than encouraging turnout in Republican wards. Elections are all about margins. There are 74 wards in Columbus. George W. Bush won 12 wards, with a margin of 7.35%. John F. Kerry won 62 wards, with a margin of 37.62%. Affecting Kerry’s turnout would greatly reduce his margin of victory in Columbus, giving the Republicans a much better chance of overtaking Kerry given a strong enough showing in suburban and small town Republican strongholds.

In order to investigate this matter, I obtained from the Franklin County Board of Elections all the data I needed in order to calculate, ward by ward, and precinct by precinct: (1) The ratio of registered voters per voting machine. (2) Percent turnout, calculated as total ballots cast divided by the number of registered voters. (3) Percent for Kerry, calculated as votes cast for Kerry divided by votes cast for president. (4) Margin of victory or defeat for Kerry, calculated as the difference between the vote totals for Kerry and Bush.

All 36 of the wards at the bottom of the list of voters per voting machine were won by Kerry, and they include most of his strongholds. In 29 of the 36 wards, Kerry exceeded his city wide share of 62.22% of the vote. However, these wards suffered a low voter turnout.It is important to understand what these numbers mean. The polls in Ohio were open from 6:30 A.M. to 7:30 P.M. That is 13 hours, or 780 minutes. If there are 400 registered voters per voting machine, and turnout is 60%, each voter has less than 3.5 minutes to vote, and that is assuming a steady stream of voters, with no rushes at certain hours. It also assumes no challenges to voters at the polls. If there are 550 registered voters per voting machine, and the turnout is 60%, each voter has 2.4 minutes. All of this amounts to theft of votes. It has been shown above that the Kerry precincts enjoyed a voter turnout similar to that of the Bush precincts when supplied with enough voting machines.

Thus I conclude that the withholding of voting machines from predominantly Democratic wards in the City of Columbus cost John Kerry upwards of 17,000 votes. A more detailed calculation could be done on a precinct by precinct basis, but that is not necessary here. The purpose is to illustrate the magnitude of the conspiracy. Matt Damschroder did not act alone. There are 74 wards and 472 precincts in Columbus, Ohio. It is not possible for one person to have delivered all the voting machines, and it is unlikely that nobody else was involved in planning where to deliver them. Anyone who associated with Mr. Damschroder on or shortly before Election Day should be investigated for possible complicity. Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D. 4 Fisher Street Canton, New York 13617 [phone] [e-mail]

Stealing Votes in Cleveland

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/cleveland.htm

Indications of possible ballot box stuffing in Warren County, Ohio

[sabra]

45. Thanks for the post...

Franklin County has many issues being reported, I truly hope the investigation is as thorough as it needs to be.

[sabra]

2. I gues no one agrees with me :-(

But I still believe that there are some questions that need to be addressed there...

Oh Well.

[IAMREALITY]

7. Sabra,

I couldn't agree with you more!!!!! Funny thing is last night I couldn't fall asleep to save my damn life. One of the things I chose to think about was exactly this, and exactly that quote you provided in the original post about lack of being able to reproduce the error. What's funny is I thought 'shit, this is totally the proof fraud took place. There is no logical alternative for how this happened other then manipulation. We need to dig deeper. hmmmmm, I'm gonna post in the morning that this IS the smoking gun and we need to ask KO and anyone else in the media that will listen to beat it to death until we have an answer etc..."

Unfortunately, all the damn distraction of the blah blah vs. the blah blah threads made me completely forget. Then now all of a sudden I see your post and it's like holy shit, what a coinkidink!

So yes, Sabra, I support you 100%. This 3893 was a mistake by someone perpetrating fraud, a definite oops, and a definite red flag that the fraud occurred. We should demand a thorough investigation into that instance in itself.

[sabra]

16. Your my boy...

IAMREALITY :-)

Glad to hear I am not alone...

Until we get an answer, to why this happened, and "it was a one time glitch" doesn't cut it, I am going to call this fraud.

I only hope people with higher authority than me, share in my attestation.

[geo]

31. Not alone at all...

there should be an effort made to explain this. A real effort. :) -G

[sabra]

32. I truly hope so! n/t

[CrispyQ]

3. It's called the ROVE bug . . .

It executes only once & doesn't leave a trace.

[sabra]

4. Funny, but probably true n/t

[Chimpanzee]

46. Yes there is a trace

It's the descrepancy of what votes were actually counted in the precinct and what is on the CT. We don't have to prove the name of the person that did this, just that there is fraud.

[bmoney07]

5. good find and

good question!

Kick

[sabra]

6. Thanks, and I hope we get an answer n/t

[mikeylove]

8. nice tidy logic you have there.

It sounds right to me.

[BlueDog2u]

9. Excellent point, Sabra

"They are essentially telling us, they have no idea how this happened, as they can't recreate the bug. To me this puts the tabulation server (Windows 98/NT System) in question, as it appears that it has been compromised."


If this is really true, then it seems that there is no logical way out but to conclude that something went wrong with the tabulator. This strongly implies intentional fraudulent activity. You're quite right, this deserves the highest possible level of scrutiny from lawyers, programmers, and all investigators.

[Razorback_Democrat]

10. GOOD one! kick n/t

[RaulVB]

11. Agreed!

In that county Kerry lost more than 3.800 votes. I am sure of it.

[sabra]

19. Even if it was only 4k

but it's proven that the tabulator was hacked, that discredits the whole state's votes....

[Broken Acorn]

12. I totally agree

The fraud (in my IT experience) was done at the central tabulator level. It is very easy to switch votes for candidates once the data is sent to the server, before being published.

Most politicians and media DON'T UNDERSTAND technology and software programs. That's why the fraud committed was so easy to perform, especially since the 4 major election software vendors are straight Repubs.

Doesn't anyone think how coincidental it was that the 'Mandate' term and 'Moral Values' talking points were thrown around IMMEDIATELY following Election Day? Plus the Fallujah offensive was coordinated perfectly to throw off anyone who was going to follow up?

Too bad Kerry doesn't have a MCSE license.

[Old and In the Way]

26. It would have to occur there......

That's the only point where the entire picture is known.

Question. Why weren't the local results totaled locally before uploading the data? Wouldn't that have been a logical thing to do....what if the data was garbled in transmission?

[CantGetFooledAgain]

13. BIG kick n/t

[roseBudd]

14. Actually a DUer wrote a program that produced exactly that number of

excess votes in Gahanna. It was at least 3 weeks ago. He first off gave us his background as a programmer and explained that when stuff goes wrong in computers the numbers are astronomically wrong, so the 3,893 number was suspicous. I'll try to find that post after work.

[sabra]

17. I posted a thread a couple of days ago...

with a code example. As you can tell this has been on my mind for awhile now...

[Danocrat]

15. I can't believe what I just heard

Judy Woofwoof on CNN just said, "Ohio has certified all 88 Ohio counties including provisional ballots and pResident Bush has held onto his lead as expected." WTF?

[RaulVB]

18. Great job Sabra, keep this visible

We need to repeat the basics of the fraud.

[jmknapp]

20. Map of spoiled ballots in Franklin County

Where spoiled means no vote for president:

[sabra]

22. How is that possible?

They used danaher 1242 (http://guardianvoting.com/gvs/vs.html)

"-100% accurate - Incredibly reliable"

Something isn't right here...

[jmknapp]

24. Simply not voting for president

Is a possibility. the machine doesn't force you to vote for president.

[sabra]

25. Thanks for clearing that up for me n/t

[LisaL]

27. Well, how accurate can it be, if it gave Bush almost 4,000 extra

votes?

[chorti]

54. please do same map but with reg. voters per voting machine

Joe, please do the same map but with number of registered voters per voting machine. You can get the voting machine data from Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D. 4 Fisher Street Canton, New York 13617 [phone] [e-mail] <http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/columbus.htm>. For example, use blue for precincts with perhaps > 410 registered voters per voting maching and red for precincts with < 250 per voting machine. Then we are talking law suits and people are going to jail.

[chorti]

56. joe, please send me the gis files

Joe,
Please send me the gis files (arcview?) for the Franklin County precincts, as well as census tracts - although I know that is available publicly. The precincts are probably public too, but I thought this might save me a bunch of time. I use arcview 3.2 so I would need the older version - shape files, etc. Please send to plan-act at juno dot com. Thanks!!! I don't have enough posts to send you an email directly. Tim

[november3rd]

21. Wayne Madsen

Yeah, that's exactly the kind of "mistake" that could give them away. Plus, that story got national coverage.

Have Madsen and Bev Harris ever met?

[understandinglife]

23. I agree with you and have been writing every....

...person I possibly can, some several times, attempting to get people to focus on precisely this situation and have them realize that a nation-wide dragnet of all central tabulating systems, all telecom logs for the sites hosting those systems, all logs of personnel who had access to those systems (like 'service engineers') should have already been underway.

And, my concerns about NH and the reason why I'm advocating that WA State is such an important opportunity are summarized here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=98723&mesg_id=98988

Thank you for keeping everyone focused on 'the Gahanna Factor.'

Peace.

"I Declare The 2004 Election Invalid: Someone I do not know was prevented from voting"

[Vinnie From Indy]

28. One Lingering Question About Fraud

I have read thousands of posts about how the vote totals may have been hacked at the "tabulator" level. I assume that each county has a tabulator that gathers all the data from the precincts and wards and sends the results to the state election office. If the totals were hacked at the county of tabulator level wouldn't the local or precinct level partisan observers immediately spot a mistake between the counts they took election night and the ones being reported by the county tabulator? I ask this only because I have been at a few state Democratic headquarters on election night and there is always a precinct committeeman or ward chairman running around with his or her precinct or ward tally to show people how well they did for the candidates by getting out the vote. Wouldn't the machines have to be hacked at the precinct level so these people would not know of the fraud?

[LisaL]

30. Franklin county has paperless machines.

I am not sure how that works, and if workers would knew anything on a local level.

[newyawker99]

33. Hi Vinnie From Indy!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Vinnie From Indy]

40. Hey New York!!!! Thank you!

Thanks!

[CantGetFooledAgain]

39. That seems like a great question to me...

If there is a RELIABLE precinct-level count available that can be compared to the numbers "tabulated" at the county level, it would clearly indicate any manipulation of the tabulators themselves.

Key word being "reliable" - this is way too obvious, I think, to go unhandled by anyone who was actually executing a fraud.

Now, if the punch card readers, and the optical scammers, and whatever other equipment was used to count ballots were somehow tampered with, it would in fact eliminate the need to risk messing with the central tabulators at all. In that case the only risk of exposure might be through a hand recount, but there are probably ways to cover that up as well.

The biggest danger, in my opinion, is some concerted effort to spoof the ballots themselves. From everything I have heard thus far, I am not convinced that these ballots are sufficiently well secured.

[liam97]

29. Should send this to Arnebeck

and Fitrakis

[pauldp]

34. Good Point I'll send it to him too n/t

[tbuddha]

35. Yep.....that's a pretty sure sign of a hack...I need to be in Ohio

From what I understand, the hack was able to download a program that altered votes in the GEMS servers for counties. Unfortunately, these programs can be designed to erase themselves without a trace when they are done doing their work.

I have no idea how we can prove anything with this though...any ideas?

[witchhazl]

38. I thought this kinda thing was the reason for Bev' s FOIA requests

that she made to every county right after the election. She knows what "footprints" hacking attempts can leave behind, so she asked for all kinds of internal computer logs that I wouldn't understand.If it was self-deleting code, though, I don't know if it could possibly be detected.

[DoYouEverWonder]

47. You can prove

that it's not possible to know how many votes anybody got. It is up to the SOE and SOS to be able to prove that their certified counts are correct.

[donkeyotay]

36. Your logic makes sense to me

It makes a lot more sense that just using the word "glitch" as if it explained anything. If the computer at your bank starts having glitches with your account, would that raise a concern?

[tbuddha]

37. Yup, We could do this in Franklin County...in Columbus

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x105604

[Digit]

41. kick

[badc0der]

43. Provisional votes in Franklin county are startling (or not)

Kerry carried Franklin County with under 55% of the in person vote, but carried the provisional vote by more than 75% percent. This is more than twice the size of the next largest difference (Clark County 49%/%59) which seems like too much to be explained by the "provisional demographic" effect.

I concur the something rotten is afoot in Franklin County.

EDIT: I just realized that not adding in Bush's extra 4k votes from Gahanna 1b into the provisional total is what messed up my numbers...

[GetTheRightVote]

44. I hope they get down to the bottom of it all soon.

[LiberalAndProud]

48. I agree Sabra, because it happened EVERYWHERE.

Nebraska:

http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/1161971.html

Deputy Sarpy County Election Commissioner Ed Gilbert says, "It affected 32 of the 80 precincts. And I suppose as many as 10,000 votes."

Sarpy County borrowed the election equipment from Omaha-based Election Systems & Software. Its employees operated the machines that are now double-checking the ballots.

No one is sure exactly what went wrong.

Gilbert says, "The only thing we know is that if you load the disc out there, it reads fine. They didn't read fine on this computer."

[Carolab]

49. It's the central tabulator they hacked

Bev's docu says so; Chuck Herrin too.

The hack can be detected with proper audit logs. Shows glitches occuring due to modem transmission interruptions.

[sabra]

50. WOW

What kind of voting system do they have there?

[LiberalAndProud]

51. Most of Nebraska uses Optical Scanning (ES&S)

And here there is the Chuck Hagel / Omaha World Herald financial interest boondoggle. But Nebraskans don't care much, because this is a red state.

Sad, because I LIKE Hagel a lot. That man has integrity and class. But it must be examined.

Edit: mush to must

[nashuaadvocate]

52. The Nashua Advocate

I had originally decided to limit myself to posting this notice in only three threads, but the site below has received such interest in the last 48 hours (almost 500 unique hits!) that I thought I'd post our news outlet's web address again in those DU threads which are covering stories we are also covering. So -- that address for The Nashua Advocate is, again,

http://www.nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com

Because The Advocate has only recently moved to this web address, Google.com does not yet list us. Please make sure to bookmark (and/or link) to the site when you first visit in order to readily access the site again in the future.

Keep up the good work, all of you!

News Editor, The Nashua Advocate

[Chili]

53. OMG... the arrogance takes my breath away

Thank you nashuaadvocate...!

And I've added your blog to my site: (http://shadowbox.i8.com/) - excellent coverage, thank you!

Does anyone know constitutional - or OHio law, or whatever this falls under - enough to know what the consequences are of Blackwell telling the House Judiciary Committee and the GAO to f--- off? Seriously... does anyone know? Can the HJC DO something to him / them for refusing to cooperate? How much power does the GAO and the HJC have?

Do I want the answer to that question?

Does anybody know?

[mod mom]

55. INVESTIGATE ALL 88! (COUNTIES IN OHIO)

[sabra]

57. Amen !