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Thu Dec-02-04 08:58 PM
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Olbermann Blog Update-responds to Bev Harris |
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Link here: www.bloggermann.com
12/2/04-8:13pm One final note here. I should clarify what I wrote in this space last night about Countdown’s interaction with Bev Harris of Black Box Voting. My staff is not certain that any of our messages to Ms. Harris inviting her on the show since the week of November 15 have specifically asked her for permission to play the videotapes of her work trying to audit the Florida vote. We think so, but I’ve got only three people booking all the guests on this program, and they each probably make about 100 calls a day.
Complicating our effort is the fact that even as we hoped to provide a platform to publicize and illuminate her efforts, Ms. Harris had returned none of the messages left on her own voicemail by Countdown staffers since she spoke to our staffers briefly, twice, during the week of November 8. Only today did she even get back in touch with us, and was so belligerent, threatening, and demanding, that we have chosen to withdraw our invitation to her to appear, or to have videotape of her efforts played, on Countdown.
Threats against myself or my staff will not be tolerated. We are not only busting our humps on the voting irregularities beat, but we remain the only mainstream news organization to continue to cover this vital story. These are my people — they are running professional risks I can’t begin to describe — and I will stand up for them, first, last, and always.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:01 PM
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1. Well, she cooked that goose. |
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:14 PM
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Way to go, Bev
David Allen www.thoughtcrimes.org
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:15 PM
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26. Ya sure, ya betcha! :) n/t |
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:01 PM
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2. Talk about a classy guy. |
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And for anyone who might turn on KO, just remember Dan Rather. He has to play it super tight. One false move and the right will pounce on him.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:01 PM
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From what I've been reading, Bev Harris has some ego problems.
Too bad for Democracy.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:05 PM
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7. Exactly. This isn't about Bev Harris. It's about our country. She needs |
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to get off her high horse and accept help when it's offered. I think she has dropped the ball. Hopefully, it's not lost in the Bushes.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:03 PM
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4. there goes our window, thanks a lot bev. |
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:04 PM
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now can I have my $$$ back?
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:06 PM
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10. WTF? Is she an idiot? |
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:06 PM
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Do you think Du'ers will pour out the Koolaide Finally about her??
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:09 PM by SomthingsGotaGive
There will be no accounting ever mark my words.
Even Jerry Lewis' telethon had a totem board show how much the kids were getting.
Bev hasn't said once, even Ball park how much she has collected since Nov2
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:12 PM
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19. It has to be disclosed. Call and ask. NPOs have to tell you. |
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:05 PM
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8. Bev, very impressive.... |
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....you've managed to blow away the media with your evidence.
Unfortunatly, they wanted evidence of voter fraud, not lunacy.
Gee...where's my wallet? Is it time to donate yet? Was that .com or .org??
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:06 PM
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I am with you, proud of your composure, and respect the hell out of your convictions.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:07 PM
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12. im sorry but i see KO went from |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:10 PM by bullimiami
""refused to come on with the tapes"" to
""didnt return our MESSAGES"". Sounds like noone ever talked to her and that turned into a refusal.
He flamed her on his blog first, remember? I would have been mad too.
The stories about the the week of the 8th still doesnt jibe either.
Bragging about being the only MSM doing it is an unfortunate truth of corporate cable news.
I have seen both him and bev work for the voting issue. This is just stupid.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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however when Bev called today she could have said yes to the invite |
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but she didn't now the window is closed
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:14 PM
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24. It was HIS correction. There's no excuse for this. BBV should |
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have been all over it.
And there's no excuse for threats. Either she was the worst PR rep EVER or she was a fraud there, too.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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"We are not only busting our humps on the voting irregularities"
I found this line especially interesting... Are they doing things we are not aware of, or is he referring to his nightly segment on the voting irregularities as "busting our humps"?
Why would Bev call Countdown with this kind of attitude? Belligerent? Threatening? Demanding?
What the hell is going on here?
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:13 PM
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That's the stuff I'm talking about it. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I imagined this would all go down well. Why did that need to happen? I am so embarrassed. And disappointed, and sad.
Threats? From us? From her? So, so bad, either way. And the stern "talking to," makes me even more depressed. Not that it was undeserved, by any stretch, because we did bad.
Forgive them, for they know not what they do...
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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14. I hate to say, I told you so but I told you so. |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:17 PM by saracat
Bad, bad, bad PR. And that Free something person kept saying I was wrong. And as for budda. Geta grip and get her help! But I am sorry this happened.Bev needs to get her act together.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:08 PM
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16. Eek. Everyone crapping on that bit today should be ashamed. |
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And send out emails to both parties urging them to reconcile.
bev@blackboxvoting.org
KOlbermann@msnbc.com
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:11 PM
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:12 PM by crispini
She appears to be the ego problem here.
Keith, you are one classy dude. The offer to bear your children is still open. :evilgrin:
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:09 PM
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17. Probably lying from the start |
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It looks like Bev may have been blowing smoke up everyone's a$$ and KO finally called her on it.
I respect his decision and maybe she can go on Faux now to show the tapes (sarcasm).
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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30. I think you are confusing Bev |
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with mother teresa Did it ever occur to you that she may have other motives?? She to me is a michael moore wannabe
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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31. Hey--I've given money to Bev in the past--lots of it in fact |
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and right now I've got some questions and I personally think that I'm entitled to ask them because I've given her my money. And you know, to earn the dollars I donate I have to work which prevents me from being out there doing the investigative work on this thing. I don't have a job that allows me to pick up and take off and track this story down--not all of us have those kinds of jobs and some of us don't have jobs at all. We do not deserve W for President and we don't deserve you're insulting us for having legit questions either.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:14 PM
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I respect Bev for what she is doing, and I don't doubt her intentions. But I have to admit I haven't really been putting my eggs in her basket for being the savior of all this. Actually I won't do that for anybody. This is far bigger then KO, then Bev, and we have tons of us putting the effort forth in our own way. So I never placed all my hope in her, and this whole battle between them is actually meaningless to me. I am counting on justice, that's it. Counting on an Ohio recount. Counting on Kerry to come out and do the right thing. Most importantly I am counting on all of us.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:14 PM
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25. Who in the hell is threatening Keith and his staff? |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:20 PM by cat_girl25
deleted....didn't read all of Keith's blog.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:15 PM
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27. I am sitting here just doing a slow burn... |
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I don't want to jump to conclusions but God help Bev if she is just yanking our chain...
I will sue her in court for recovery of my donation... I'll lose, but it will be worth it...
I guess my internal jury is still out... I don't want to crucify Bev without hearing her side of the story...
But I do feel my ears getting red and my heart racing... Not another phony, God... Not another phony...
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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28. A leader needs to be above the fray |
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I said this on an earlier thread and I stand by it. She allowed her ego to step in and unfortunately did major damage to her work's reputation. I only hope that if what she is doing is legitimate, she will realize that she needs to tone down her feelings and do what she can to establish a positive reputation with MSM and her donors.
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Thu Dec-02-04 09:16 PM
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29. Please continue discussion here |
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