In Florida, check the OptiSCAMS AND the FUDGEscreens

[TruthIsAll]

In Florida, Bush's Actual/Expected Vote ratio for BOTH
Touchscreen and Optiscan precincts far exceeded Kerry's. This
should make BOTH types of voting equipment highly suspect. Of
course, we can't recount the touchscreens, can we?

Registered Democrats outnumber Republicans across the state.
Check the percentages below.

We're supposed to believe that only 71% of Registered Dems
voted for Kerry in Florida. And 136% of Repugs voted for Bush.

Bushit!

Touchscreen (ES&S, Sequoia) precincts:
........Total.............Dem.......Rep
Registered	5,576,264	40.89%	36.77%	
Voted          3,863,840	51.30%	47.77%	
Actual/Exp        .69	    .79	      1.28

ESS Optiscan precincts:
............Total.........Dem.......Rep
Registered     1,442,203	41.90%	39.65%	
Voted          1,049,555	39.36%	59.95%	
Actual/Exp        .73	     1.06   	1.51

Diebold Optiscan precincts:
............Total.............Dem.......Rep
Registered     3,282,823	41.93%	38.69%	
Voted          2,370,297	43.56%	55.73%	
Actual/Exp       .72	      .96	      1.43
										

Grand Total
............Total.............Dem.......Rep
Registered     10,301,290	41.37%	37.79%	
Voted          7,283,692	47.06%	52.12%
Actual/Exp  	.71	      .87	       1.36

Actual/Exp = Actual vote/expected vote (based on party
registration).

Election Results are 98.6% of the total from Nov 3. 
The Voter Registration Numbers are from Oct 4.

[Broken Acorn]

1. It's not the initial entry that's the problem

it's central servers that put the fraud into play. So it doesn't matter where you look at different type of machines, the data is being manipulated at the state server.

[berniew1]

2. Miami Herald hand recount of 3 Fla. counties: big Kerry gain >> Kerry win

Miami Herald hand recount of 3 Florida counties indicates signficant Kerry gain and possible Kerry win

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/20021...

Here are the tallies for Union County:

Bush original: 3396 Bush hand count: 3393 (-3)

Kerry original: 1251 Kerry hand count: 1272 (+21)

Net change: Kerry +24

Here are the tallies for Lafayette County:

Bush original: 2460 Bush hand count: 2452 (-8)

Kerry original: 845 Kerry hand count: 848 (+3)

Net change: Kerry +11

It's a bit more complicated for the third county they looked at, Suwannee County, because they only report the totals for a hand

count of "almost 60%" of the ballots. Here is the result of their 60% hand count:

Bush 60% hand count: 6140

Kerry 60% hand count: 2984

Which gives us the following tally for Suwannee County:

Bush original: 11153 Extrapolation of Bush 100% hand count: 10549

Kerry original: 4522 Extrapolation of Kerry 100% hand count: 5126

Net change: Kerry +1208

In the original count, 71.2% of the votes cast for Bush or Kerry (n=15675) went to Bush. In the hand count, this drops to 67.3%. That

is a significant drop. Let's translate that into numbers. If you take the percentages from the hand count and extrapolate, here's

what you get:

Bush = 15675 x .673 = 10549 (loss of 604)

Kerry = 15675 x .327 = 5126 (gain of 604)

Net change: Kerry +1208

A switch of 1208 votes in a county with less than 16K votes cast is obviously huge. Now maybe there's a very large percentage of Bush votes in that remaining 40% that they didn't count, but we can't know that because they didn't count them. Which begs the question...why did they stop counting in Suwannee County when their tabulation of 60% of the ballots deviated so much from the original total? And without actually counting those remaining ballots, how can they possibly report that nothing is amiss when the data they have so far suggests a possible problem?

What I see is a possible gain of 1243 votes for Kerry from three small counties in which only 23627 ballots were cast. That

represents about 0.3% of the ballots cast for Bush and Kerry statewide. If Kerry gained votes at the same rate statewide, he picks up nearly 400,000 votes and wins Florida.

[berniew1]

3. Major Florida Election Anomalies and Irregularities

Major vote irregularties in big touchscreen Florida counties

Univ. of Calif. study www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,10801,97614,00.html

FLCV study www.flcv.com/fla04EAS.html ... www.flcv.com/fla04EA.html

www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00072.htm

Voter Suppression in Florida

www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=date&selectstate=FL&selectproblemtype=ALL

www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/10032557.htm

www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/2004-11-04/news/norman.html

www.legitgov.org/essay_front_lines_in_florida_110704.html

http://simplyappalling.blogspot.com/2004/10/broward-co-florida-once-again-descends.html

www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10099198.htm?1c

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.election26nov26,1,4103824.story?coll=bal-oped-h

Summary of Documentation www.flcv.com/flavi04.html

(URLs not hyperlinked, you have to mark them and paste into browser)

[trudyco]

4. This has been debunked (extrapolation part) n/t