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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:14 PM
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Internet Research on Election Fraud
and everything else that matters to the internet community of activists should read this, as I recall a thread a few days back where folks thought it wasn't a real possibility that the internet could be censored:

Tenet calls for Internet security


By Shaun Waterman
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL


Former CIA Director George J. Tenet yesterday called for new security measures to guard against attacks on the United States that use the Internet, which he called "a potential Achilles' heel."
"I know that these actions will be controversial in this age when we still think the Internet is a free and open society with no control or accountability," he told an information-technology security conference in Washington, "but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control."
The former CIA director said telecommunications — and specifically the Internet — are a back door through which terrorists and other enemies of the United States could attack the country, even though great strides have been made in securing the physical infrastructure.
The Internet "represents a potential Achilles' heel for our financial stability and physical security if the networks we are creating are not protected," Mr. Tenet said.
He said known adversaries, including "intelligence services, military organizations and non-state actors," are researching information attacks against the United States.
Within the federal government, the Department of Homeland Security has the lead role in protecting the Internet from terrorism. But the department's head of cyber-security recently quit amid reports that he had clashed with his superiors.
Mr. Tenet, who retired in July as director of the CIA after seven years, warned that al Qaeda remains a sophisticated group, even though its first-tier leadership largely has been destroyed.
It is "undoubtedly mapping vulnerabilities and weaknesses in our telecommunications networks," he said.
Mr. Tenet pointed out that the modernization of key industries in the United States is making them more vulnerable by connecting them with an Internet that is open to attack.
The way the Internet was built might be part of the problem, he said. Its open architecture allows Web surfing, but that openness makes the system vulnerable, Mr. Tenet said.
Access to networks like the World Wide Web might need to be limited to those who can show they take security seriously, he said.
Mr. Tenet called for industry to lead the way by "establishing and enforcing" security standards. Products need to be delivered to government and private-sector customers "with a new level of security and risk management already built in."
The national press, including United Press International (UPI), were excluded from yesterday's event, at Mr. Tenet's request, organizers said. "


In all seriousness, This is a warning sign. This administration stifles dissent in the name of "security," I don't think anyone here needs to be further convinced of that.




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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:15 PM
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1. dates of this article and links would be very helpful n/t
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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:37 PM
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4. I believe this is one link:
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 11:38 PM by life_long_dem
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:42 PM
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6. LOL, the only thing good about this article is it's date and
that Tenet is the one suggesting the control/regulation of the internet. He is no longer with the admin and is not one of the weed's favorite son's. Because he promotes this may mean that it won't happen any time soon, which may be why he has publicly promoted it, if you know what I mean! :freak:
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:05 AM
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11. But, it sounded like Bush words to me...
"the Wild West"

He could be giving "personal" opinions or he could be giving a "warning" of what he knows about that is in the mill/plan.



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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:55 PM
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14. Maybe Tenet was using the shrub's words to mock the idiot-n-chief?
If he liked the man (and the man liked him) he would still be there!
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:56 AM
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15. Exactly...
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 12:57 AM by shuffnew
I thought when I read that Bushie language (that maybe, just maybe) it was Tenet's way to tell us what the "shrubs" are planning to do versus perhaps relaying his own opinions.
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:41 PM
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5. ALERT!!! Watch out for the "Intelligence Reform Bill"!!!!
I just posted the same thing at the same time as don... I have the dates and URL in the post... it was a conference yesterday! Instead of putting my entire text again, just click on below link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1406456
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:22 PM
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2. think about enforcing this crud
"in the name of security". they will have to rebuild the architecture? access by approved finger print? only approved web sites?. i simply cannot imagine
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north houston dem Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 11:23 PM
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3. Now this is scary
Talk about big brother!

Wonder who gets designated as a "terrorist"?

And I have no doubt that they canand will do it.
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:07 AM
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12. Who gets designated as a "terrorist"?...
I don' think they would have any "proof" - they didn't have to have any reason to research what library books you read now did they?
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:02 AM
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7. We, the Net need a powerful spokesperson to return that intimidating shot.
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:04 AM
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8. Big Brother begins...
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:27 AM
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9. Defeatist remark
We fight back, do you not get it?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:40 AM
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10. It was in LBN this morning:
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:20 PM
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13. And here is how they define "terrorist" - WATCH OUT!
Article Published: Friday, December 03, 2004
FBI spying allegations supported by records

By Alicia Caldwell
Denver Post Staff Writer
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2573309,00.html

<snip>
The ACLU disclosed documents that it says show the terrorism task force is spying on people who are politically active in environmental, political and animal-rights issues.
<snip off>
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:10 AM
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16. Scary stuff..have you guys read Patriot Act II?
Somebody posted it on another thread.. I think it has a provision which makes gathering information on the Internet a potential crime. We are definitely becoming a police state!

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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:28 AM
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17. When they say the Internet causes Child Abuse, no more internet
When ever the Bush Gestapo wants to terminate a Freedom, the Magic word is their target causes Child Abuse
You'll see
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:44 AM
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18. Bush's Internets? maybe he knew something?
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:03 AM
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19. Guys see this-- Very Scary !!!
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1130.htm
Go to archives then to the "voice of the WH" see Nov 28
Hell, see all of them but nov 28 is relevant to this thread.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:05 AM
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20. Guys, also see Dec 3 -Unfriggin believable!!! nt
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 06:47 AM
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21. protected?
it's the old freedom vs. fear ploy.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:04 PM
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22. kick
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