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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:38 PM
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A vote fraud whistleblower... or not?
A new hardblogger blog....I hadn't heard of Brad Menfil...don't know if we have dissected him here or not.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:42 PM
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1. Sounds like a decoy.
So when he's proven to be a liar/dud/whatever, the whole issue loses credibility.

I've been waiting for someone like this to turn up.

But who knows.

I'm taking it with a grain o salt.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:52 PM
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2. I would guess "NOT" - but saying the plausible/likely is TRUE is his
MO - in any case - here are the links and posts

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2004/11/bad-brad-is-at-it-again-vote-frau probably should not pass along this text. Long-time readers of this column, or of Indymedia, will recall the strange story of Brad Menfil, the pseudonym of a putative bean-spiller within the RNC. (Side note: "Menfil" is an odd name. An anagram, perhaps?)

We first met Brad in conjunction with the bulge-gate scandal -- at therein lieth a long and complex tale. If you want the details, go to Google and find the previous postings about him published on this site, which should give you as good a summary as you're likely to find.

Bottom line: I think the guy's a fraud.

So why am I wasting space reprinting his current "revelations" about the election? Because I don't know with 100% certainty that he is a fraud. And even if he is, his scenarios are, if nothing else, interesting.

So -- even though I know I'm gonna regret this -- here's the latest from Mr. Menfil (as passed on to me by Bush Wired):


Brad Menfil is not my real name. I work for the RNC. I fear reprisals
if I'm found out.

The truth about this election is this: Florida and Ohio had to go for
Bush in order for him to "win" the election. In reality he lost both
states. In fact, he did not even win the popular vote. He lost the
national popular vote by at least 1,750,000. This shows you the scale
of the fraud.

The exit polls were not wrong. Kerry was the clear winner, but victory
was snatched from him.

Florida first. The 200,000+ margin of victory for Bush made this state
uncontestable. Everybody assumes that even with some fraud, Kerry could
never have made up the difference in a recount. But Kerry actually won
by about 750,000 votes. The numbers were changed by a computer program
(in both electronic and scan-tron voting systems) called "KerryLite."
"KerryLite" of course is not actual name of the program. The actual
name is 11-5-18-18 etc. For additional encryption, the numbers were
jumbled but I'm not sure in which order. The numbers replace the
letters of the alphabet. For example, K is the eleventh letter of the
alphabet.

So the if-then statement goes something like this: "if total true
Kerry>total true Bush, Bush x 1.04x (.04 is a random number)(total true
Kerry), total true Bush". The second part of the equation takes the
total number of votes cast and subtracts the new Bush total, subtracts
the third party totals and leaves the rest for Kerry.

Sometimes the program would also reduce third party votes and award
them to Bush. And even where Bush legitimately won, he was still
awarded additional votes. The big Democratic counties (Broward for
example) went to Kerry because it had to appear that everything was on
the up and up. It's interesting to see this unfold. Does anybody wonder
why the Republican counties were mostly counted after the Democratic
counties? You should wonder, and also know that this was no accident.
The Bush team had to make up the votes as the night went on.

In Ohio, computer voting fraud, vote tossing and voter suppression were
the main methods. Vote tossing was simply the removal of Kerry votes
and some third party votes. In some areas, the Bush vs. Kerry votes
were absurd. Nine to one, eight to two.

Voter suppression took the form of making voters stand in four hour
long lines. This of course took place in Democratic areas. The simplest
thing to do was to have too few voting machines. Sometimes that's all
it takes. People eventually lose patience and leave without casting a
vote.

In other states such as New Mexico, Nevada, Iowa and New Hampshire,
Kerry's leads evaporated very quickly once the polls were shut down.
Kerry only won New Hampshire, but barely. As it turned out, the lead
was 6% for Kerry in that state and not enough fraudulent activity took
place to flip the state to Bush.

So this will all come out and be known to everyone. Nothing this
massive can be kept a secret. You're already beginning to see these
"irregularities" and the whisper will become a roar.

Hang in there!


http://story.knoxvilletimes.com/p.x/ct/9/cid/a8d1772e8d5c87a8/id/2e5fb3ba40ef014a/


Crossed wires snare Knoxville Times
Knoxville Times
Thursday 14th October, 2004


A fledgling Knoxville news portal in the crosshairs of bloggers, conspiracy theories, and a charge that the U.S. president is wired has the hairs running.

The story starts off like this, courtesy of a blog on a Web site called IsBushWired.com:

Somebody claiming to be 'Brad Menfil' of Knoxville, TN, recently posted on Portland's Indymedia site that he was told by a Bush campaign worker named Scott Zale that Bush is known among many campaign workers to be wired. Here's the text of the post, followed by a rebuttal that raises more questions than it answers:

'I have contacts within the Republican Party. I was told by Scott Zale, a Republican operative in eastern Tennessee that he knows it to be a fact that Bush was wired. He said that within the Bush campaign, there are certain mid-level staffers that have leaked this tidbit because it was just 'too fantastic to ignore.'

Zale told me that the transmission device is popular with other high profile officials in the Bush administration. It helps everybody stay 'on message.' Zale said that Bush was only fed ready responses to just certain types of questions. He didn't know which questions those were but admitted that Bush just sounded (to him)to be more articulate at certain 'opportune' times.

Zale confided that he was told that the president wore a loose fitting jacket during both debates. The device protuded because Bush has a tendency to hunch over and shrug his shoulders a lot.

This is a true story as it was told to me. If you want to know more, please contact Scott Zale at the Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters in Knoxville, Tn. Thanks.'

IsBushWired called Bush-Cheney in Knoxville and confirmed that a Scott Zale was known there, though the woman who answered the phone said, 'he's hardly ever here. He has a day job.'

Meanwhile,somebody posting as 'Scott Zale' replied on the portlandindymedia site, under the headline 'Scott Zale speaks for himself':

Please shut down this blog. I was informed this morning by the national editor of the Knoxville Times that my name was invoked by a man named 'Brad Menfil' in regards to this out-of-control story.

It is true that I work for Bush-Cheney here in Tennessee. My office is in Gatlinburg, not Knoxville. Although I do happen to work at least two days a week in Knoxville. I am a staff accountant and one of my duties is to process local contributions. As part of that duty, I have to wire funds to the national committee in Washington D.C. So I do have national Republican contacts and have heard many things.

'Brad' is not his real name but I suspect he is or may be my counterpart in the Washington collections office. He has probably been to Tennessee about 15 times in the last 7 weeks, though he does not live here. I won't give his real name (even though he felt it was necessary to give mine).

The Knoxville Times called me at 6am this morning asking me to confirm or deny the 'Bush is Wired' story they read here at Portland IMC. My immediate response was, 'What is the Portland IMC?' and I then I issued a 'no comment'. Other than that, I did say that 'Brad Menfil' is not a real person.

Please stop speculating about this. Our president is a great man and can only get hurt by this. I suspect this isn't going to go away and I regret anything that I said to 'Brad' that may contribute to downfall of a great man and president.

Please drop this for the good of our country. We have bigger problems and should not be distracted by matters that don't ultimately determine the measure of an honest man. I want to say that the right answers are what matter most, not whether or not those answers were 'fed' my someone else. President Bush is a good messenger regardless.

Thanks, Scott Zale, Senior Staff Accountant, Bush-Cheney Tennessee.

The person writing as 'Brad Menfil' then posted back to Portland Indymedia:

'Scott Zale is right, 'Brad Menfil' is not my real name and I didn't hear this story from him, he heard it from me. Sorry Scott.
I do work for Bush-Cheney and I can onLy say that the substance of my first posting is correct, even though I used a fake name. I hope everybody understands why I would do this. I got a call from Scott this morning (actually, about 10 minutes ago). He said that he had been contacted by ABC and Fox after his own posting. I don't share his belief that ignoring this would be good for the country. I'm sorry I involved Scott and didn't have enough courage to use my real name. I hope the truth gets out and Scott is absolved.
Thanks for reading this, 'Brad Menfil.'

IsBushWired looked at the Knoxville Times online. It didn't look at all like a real newspaper, as Glenn Ward, editor of The South Knoxville and Seymour Times Sentinel confirmed. 'I've never heard of it,' he said. Looking at the website, he agreed that it seemed to be a lot of clippings taken off news wires. So, who called Mr. Zale at 6 in the morning? Or did anybody call Scott Zale at all? Scott Zale seems to exist, but who can be sure? Maybe somebody else used his name to write to Portland Indymedia.

Update: Webmasters, thanks for your work in digging up the provenance of the Knoxville Times site; many of you reported that it was created 8/19/2003 in Australia by a John Mcevoy, who owns a company Mainstream Capital EC, headquartered in Manama, Bahrain, with offices in Sydney, Australia. A PRWeb July press release announced it was launching a new search engine called 100.com.

Curiously, when I first looked at the Knoxville Times site Monday afternoon, there was no masthead, no information about ownership, not even an email address or the word 'Tennessee' in the title. Following my posting about the 'fake' newspaper Monday afternoon, the site added a box explaining, 'The Knoxville Times is essentially a local Knoxville newspaper, but with a national and international perspective....The biggest advantage we have is that we are an online newspaper, which means we are constantly refreshing our stories as more and more information comes to hand.'

The 'newspaper' box goes on: 'We like to think if you're looking for breaking news out of Knoxville, Tennessee, the United States, or the world, you'll look for it first at the Knoxville Times.'

Hmmm. I don't think so. It's a genuinely weird front for something or other. Who is John McEvoy, anyway, and who's the editor?

The Zale letter also reads in part like an official Bush-Cheney production, whereas 'Brad Menfil's' second letter sounds faintly genuine -- if there's a real person in any of this. But I wouldn't bet on it. It could all be fiction cooked up by Karl Rove and Co. We won't waste any more time on it unless a credible source gets in touch with us with a great deal of information that checks out.

END OF BLOG

John Mcevoy of Mainstream Capital EC said Thursday, 'A Scott Zale says he was phoned at 6am one morning by the national editor of the Knoxville Times. This is the start and the finish of any involvement in this by the Knoxville Times. Our site is one of many we have for major cities and countries of the world. For the Knoxville Times we feature local news and weather, supplemented by Tennessee state, national, world, business and technology news. Aside from a small component, all of our news comes from news feeds. We also have movie reviews, hotel reviews, a news poll and classic comments. We also offer, as with our other sites, complimentary daily emails of local headlines, RSS feeds, and a facility to add headlines to external Web sites. What we are doing is quite simple, but not unique,' Mcevoy said.

'We do not have offices in these cities and we do not have national editors ringing up people to confirm stories,' Mcevoy added. 'To be clear nobody from the Knoxville Times rang Scott Zale or anybody else in connection with any story about President Bush being wired.'

'We have been unfairly caught up in a controversy by somebody who may or may not exist in a blog posting that has not been verified by anybody,' Mcevoy said.

'Despite the person involved with IsBushWired (there are no ownership details on the site Mcevoy says) saying he contacted Bush-Cheney in Knoxville and the editor of a local Knoxville newspaper to confirm aspects of the story, there was no such effort to contact us, despite the Contact Us form on our Web site, and my email address being freely circulated through blogs.'

Mcevoy added, 'the Knoxville Times site, as with all our news sites, has had a masthead since it was activated. It has also always carried an About Us statement which outlines its online newspaper status. It has also always carried a Contact Us form.'

On the controversy itself Mcevoy said he did not want to get drawn into it. 'It may be more productive though for bloggers to seek verification of various aspects of the story rather than hype up conspiracy theories. For example I don't see umpires or referees who are wired,' he said, 'running around major sporting fields with large devices on the humps of their backs. These days,' he added, 'such devices are fairly sophisticated, small and usually worn around the waist.' (Mcevoy aside from his involvement with Mainstream Capital is an A Grade district rugby league referee in Sydney and is 'wired' during games).

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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:54 PM
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3. Wow!
Kick it!

Brad Menfil isn't a common name

I have grave doubts about the "letter"

but it is interesting

any thoughts
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:00 PM
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4. This is another one of those things that "I really don't know what to
believe". If this Brad has the goods on smirking Chimp Bushitler, then he needs to bring forth the evidence. Otherwise, he will be treated like any other conspiracy theorist.
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