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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:24 PM
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Ohio Papers chime in as to why they're NOT screaming "FRAUD!!!"
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:35 PM
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1. I'm trying to understand
how we never saw any pictures of 6 and 10 hour
lines of White people.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:55 PM
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4. There was one, in Gambier Ohio
Where Kenyon College students and townsfolk (including my mother) waited in line for up to ten hours. It's a liberal community in the middle of red Knox County. The board of elections sent two (2) electronic voting machines for more than 1,000 registered voters, and one of them broke down for most of the day. That's a ratio of 1:1,000.

In other parts of Knox County the number of voting machines per registered voter was somewhere around 1:150.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:47 PM
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6. Did they cover this? Its fully documented massive vote suppression
Systematic Voter Suppression: STEALING VOTES IN COLUMBUS (malfeasance)

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/columbus.htm

The Free Press on Election Day posted a disturbing story, later confirmed by the Columbus Dispatch. The Free Press reported that Franklin County Board of Elections Director Matt Damschroder deliberately withheld voting machines from predominantly black Democratic wards in Columbus, and dispersed some of the machines to affluent suburbs in Franklin County. Damschroder is the former Executive Director of the Franklin County Republican Party. Sources close to the Board of Elections told the Free Press that Damschroder and Ohio’s Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell met with President George W. Bush in Columbus on Election Day. The idea was to discourage turnout in Democratic wards by forcing voters to wait in long lines at the polling places. Such a strategy would be far more effective than encouraging turnout in Republican wards. Elections are all about margins. There are 74 wards in Columbus. George W. Bush won 12 wards, with a margin of 7.35%. John F. Kerry won 62 wards, with a margin of 37.62%. Affecting Kerry’s turnout would greatly reduce his margin of victory in Columbus, giving the Republicans a much better chance of overtaking Kerry given a strong enough showing in suburban and small town Republican strongholds.

In order to investigate this matter, I obtained from the Franklin County Board of Elections all the data I needed in order to calculate, ward by ward, and precinct by precinct: (1) The ratio of registered voters per voting machine. (2) Percent turnout, calculated as total ballots cast divided by the number of registered voters. (3) Percent for Kerry, calculated as votes cast for Kerry divided by votes cast for president. (4) Margin of victory or defeat for Kerry, calculated as the difference between the vote totals for Kerry and Bush.

All 36 of the wards at the bottom of the list of voters per voting machine were won by Kerry, and they include most of his strongholds. In 29 of the 36 wards, Kerry exceeded his city wide share of 62.22% of the vote. However, these wards suffered a low voter turnout.It is important to understand what these numbers mean. The polls in Ohio were open from 6:30 A.M. to 7:30 P.M. That is 13 hours, or 780 minutes. If there are 400 registered voters per voting machine, and turnout is 60%, each voter has less than 3.5 minutes to vote, and that is assuming a steady stream of voters, with no rushes at certain hours. It also assumes no challenges to voters at the polls. If there are 550 registered voters per voting machine, and the turnout is 60%, each voter has 2.4 minutes. All of this amounts to theft of votes. It has been shown above that the Kerry precincts enjoyed a voter turnout similar to that of the Bush precincts when supplied with enough voting machines.

Thus I conclude that the withholding of voting machines from predominantly Democratic wards in the City of Columbus cost John Kerry upwards of 17,000 votes. A more detailed calculation could be done on a precinct by precinct basis, but that is not necessary here. The purpose is to illustrate the magnitude of the conspiracy. Matt Damschroder did not act alone. There are 74 wards and 472 precincts in Columbus, Ohio. It is not possible for one person to have delivered all the voting machines, and it is unlikely that nobody else was involved in planning where to deliver them. Anyone who associated with Mr. Damschroder on or shortly before Election Day should be investigated for possible complicity. Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D. 4 Fisher Street Canton, New York 13617 (315) 379-0820 richardhayesphillips@yahoo.com

Stealing Votes in Cleveland

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/cleveland.htm

Indications of possible ballot box stuffing in Warren County, Ohio

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/warren.htm

Favoritism in the Suburbs

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/suburbs.htm

Analysis Indicates Kerry could win Ohio with a "fair process" and fair vote count

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/uncounted.htm

www.flcv.com/ohiov04.html

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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:50 PM
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7. Good grief! Boy, they really didn't want Kerry to win, didn't they? n/t
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:36 PM
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2. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. They haven't looked. n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:42 PM
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3. today's MSM idea of investigating is a joke at best
This is a nice "see, we're looking into it" statement.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:57 PM
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5. What can we expect? Most of these newspapers endorsed chimp
or else endorsed nobody because they just couldn't bring themselves to endorse Kerry. The media in the U.S. are a bunch of wimps, bought-off wimps.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:17 PM
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8. OK, that says that bush is expected to maintain
his roughly 136,000-vote margin. What's up with that? Kerry netted about 17k extra votes, and it was widely known that he was going to pick up votes after the provisionals and absentees were counted.

And "But our analysis shows they had waits everywhere," he adds, "in Democratic and Republican precincts." is complete crap. Just look at the maps that have been created of voter complaints. As someone else said, you haven't seen any pictures of any heavy republican precincts having 8 hour lines.
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