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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:33 PM
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Gregoire going ahead with the full statewide recount.
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 05:45 PM by Casablanca
Many thanks to everyone that contributed!

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From king5.com:

OLYMPIA, Wash. - Less than a day after Democrat Christine Gregoire vowed to concede the race for governor unless Democrats come up with enough money for a full rather than partial vote recount, her party said it had the money to do so.

The party also is heading to the state Supreme Court to seek a ruling that all ballots be treated the same from county to county.

Top-ranking Democratic sources said the party has raised the necessary $700,000-plus to recount all 2.9 million votes cast for governor on Nov. 2 - not just votes in selected counties. A flood of online contributions put the party over the top, the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

State Democrats scheduled a news conference for 2 p.m. to announce the news.

Gregoire said Thursday that she would concede the race to Republican Dino Rossi if her party chose to ask that only some counties or precincts to counted..

“If they can’t raise enough money to do a statewide recount manual recount, then I’m not interested in a recount at all,” said Gregoire.

"I want the voters to feel good about the results because all of the votes have been counted in every part of the state and they have confidence that the next governor is the dually elected governor," Gregoire said.

In a sternly worded public statement to her party, Gregoire told party leaders on Thursday to stop talking about a partial recount of an election that ended with her 42 votes behind Republican Dino Rossi.

“My request of the state Democratic Party is simple: Count the entire state or don’t count at all,” she said in the statement released by her campaign office. “Counting every vote is the only right thing to do.”

In an AP interview later, she was even stronger, “I’m saying that at 5 o’clock (Friday), if they haven’t called for a statewide recount, I’m done.”

Gregoire, 57, the three-term attorney general, trailed Rossi, 45, a former state Senate power, by just 42 votes after a machine recount was certified last week. Rossi won the initial vote count by 261 ballots, a margin so close it triggered the mandatory machine recount.

Rossi and the Republican Party have urged Gregoire to concede.

The party requesting a further hand recount must pay for it, at roughly 25 cents per ballot.

The Democrats have been scrambling to come up with more than $1 million to pay for the full manual recount. By late Thursday they had about $650,000 of the approximately $750,000 deposit that would be required by the state’s 5 p.m. Friday deadline, said Kirstin Brost, state Democratic Party spokeswoman.

Party leaders had said they agreed with Gregoire, but stopped short of offering any guarantees, saying they were looking for $100,000.

“It is absolutely our goal to do a statewide count and if we have the money, we’re going to do it,” Brost said Thursday.

“We’ve said we would raise as much as we can and then call for as much (of a recount) as we can afford.”

State law allows a manual recount of individual or multiple precincts or counties.

The fund-raising drive got a big boost when the party’s unsuccessful presidential candidate, Sen. John Kerry, donated $250,000 of his leftover campaign funds. The Democratic National Committee and other donor groups are helping.

As of Thursday morning, the state party had received $135,000 in online contributions, with more than 10,000 contributors, Brost said.

In addition to paying for the hand recount, the party faces legal bills and staff costs, driving the total to more than $1 million, she said.

Gregoire and her party have been under pressure to count the full state, rather than “cherry pick” selected counties to try to overturn the election. Outgoing Gov. Gary Locke and other elected officials, as well as many newspaper editorial pages, have urged the party to count all 6,686 precincts.

“I know it would be cheaper for the party to do a limited hand recount,” Gregoire said. “And I know it would be possible to just count a few counties and put me in the lead.

“That doesn’t work for the voters of our state. From the beginning, this has been about getting all the votes counted so we can know for sure who won the governor’s race.”

She added, “It is imperative that we send the message, ‘Every vote, everywhere, must be counted.’ No games.”

The two parties exchanged testy comments about the Democrats’ letter to Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding a fresh review of ballots that were previously rejected by canvassing boards.

Attorney David Burman said hundreds of provisional ballots and more than 1,500 absentee ballots were rejected in King County alone and that counties didn’t handle disputed ballots uniformly.

In the letter, state Democrats threatened legal action if every county isn’t allowed to re-examine discarded ballots, a policy used in King and other major counties but not in the majority of the state.

Former Republican Governor Dan Evans said the Democrats are trying to change the rules too late in the game.

"I think that we will see lawyers in every county, I think we will see of hassling of individual ballots just like in Florda four years ago, I think we will see challenges of almost everything," said Evans.

Republicans pointed to a line in Burman’s letter that said:

“Pre-recount litigation is an option, but we hope your office will do everything possible to keep that from becoming necessary.”

Republican state Chairman Chris Vance said the threat of lawsuits and the demands about expanding the ballot count could amount to “an out-and-out attempt to steal the election.”

Gregoire and the Democrats said they have no intention of lengthy litigation, but want the next recount to be accurate—and final.

Barring legal complications, a recount could start next week and end by Dec. 23. If state Democrats raise the required money, the actually full hand recount will take several weeks.

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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:38 PM
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1. Woo-hoo! (n/t)
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:41 PM
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2. Way to go, Gregoire! Make that party tow the line.
And count every vote.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:41 PM
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3. Yeah! I am so glad for Gregoire.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:44 PM
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4. Hhhmmmm . . . excellent legal reasoning on the part of
Washington State Attorney General Christine Gregoire to demand the entire state be recounted and not a partial recount.

"If (the Democrats) can’t raise enough money to do a statewide recount manual recount, then I’m not interested in a recount at all," said Gregoire. . . . She added, "It is imperative that we send the message, ‘Every vote, everywhere, must be counted.’ No games."

Good for her, in light of Bush v. Gore (which wasn't supposed to be "used" in another litigated case but has been, repeatedly).



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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:53 PM
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5. It's moot now, but I still doubt that she really intended to concede.
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 05:54 PM by Casablanca
Or that there was ever more than a split-in-pretense between her and the WA Dems. A very risky tactic, but it paid off.

Now Rossi and the GOP have to start worrying -- yet again.





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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:18 PM
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11. My respect for Gregoire, already pretty high, just rocketed.
Manual recounts, all I ever wanted. Well, I would like them to include the Pres race. But if enough discrepancy appears between machine and manual perhaps they will.

This election season is the best lesson in patience that I have ever had.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:49 PM
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15. It is good strategic reasoning too. If they counted only selected counties
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 06:55 PM by Wordie
even if she wins, there would always be doubt, and always be those who complained it wasn't a fair win. This way it will be a clean outcome, unambiguous.

Good for her....I'm so happy to hear this! And thanks, Casablanca, for all this much-needed information.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:55 PM
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6. And it's a HAND recount! n/t
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:57 PM
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7. Damn! "Every vote, everywhere, must be counted. No games.”
“It is imperative that we send the message, ‘Every vote, everywhere, must be counted.’ No games.”

When was the last time you heard a repug say that? I think I'm in love.
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:05 PM
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8. Want to help in overseeing the WA recount?
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 06:06 PM by Casablanca
From a Washington for Change email:

The Republicans think they can do to us what they did to the country in the 2000 elections.

With only 42 votes separating Christine Gregoire from the Republican candidate, they think we should just give up and let them take the office of governor, no matter how the public actually voted. We won't let them get away with it.

That's why we are about to embark on a hand count of votes in the Governor's race. Our State Democratic Party will announce on Friday the extent of the vote to be recounted - we anticipate a state-wide recount.

Howard Dean and others are helping this effort and 1000s of contributions are being made.

Here on the ground volunteers are urgently needed to help the Democrats oversee the recounting. I think you would benefit from the experience and I'm asking you to step up and lend a hand.

Observers will be needed in every county of the state. You will be asked for only a couple hours of your time, or longer if possible.

Could a hand recount find errors? Yes. Out of nearly 3 million votes cast 42 votes is a difference of only .000014. The margin of error for voting machines is somewhere between 1 and 2 percent, or 1,000 times as great as the vote difference.

We know that there were many errors in the machine recount: in some cases the machine recount yielded totals in the governor's race that do not match the number of voters who cast ballots; in some places the provisional ballots were not counted completely; and in others the discrepancy between the first count and the machine recount is so large that a hand recount must be done to reconcile differences.

State law provides for a hand recount in situations like this and the law should be followed. Please consider being part of this effort.

To volunteer please email count@wa-democrats.org or call (206) 328- 2969, ext. 133.

The stakes are high and we will have to work together to ensure that every vote is counted. I'm confident that when the votes are counted, we will see that the people of Washington wanted a Democrat to hold the office of governor.

Please volunteer now by emailing count@wa-democrats.org.

Thank you,

Karen Marchioro,
- Member of the Democratic National Committee
- Co-Chair of the Washington State for Dean Campaign

p.s. Trainings will be held across the state this weekend at the locations noted below. They will prepare volunteers for the recount effort. Please indicate your interest asap at the email address or phone number above.

Volunteer Trainings

Saturday, December 4

Bellingham
8:00 - 10:00 a.m.
Bellingham Labor Temple
1700 N State St

Seattle
12:00 PM - 2:00 PM
Aerospace Machinists Hall
9125 15th Pl S

Olympia
4:00 PM - 6:00 PM
State Employees' Office
1212 Jefferson St SE
First Floor Conference Room

Sunday, December 5

Vancouver
9:00 AM - 11:00 AM
Carpenters' Hall
612 East McLoughlin Boulevard

Yakima
2:00 PM - 4:00 PM
Carpenters' Hall
507 S 3rd St

Spokane
7:00 PM - 9:00 PM
Carpenters' Hall
127 E. Augusta Ave, Ste. 103



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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:16 PM
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10. Thanks for posting this - WA peoples volunteer for good clean fun!
Well, maybe not fun. But maybe!
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:29 PM
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13. WebeBlue just posted info on how to volunteer through Moveon.org.
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 06:32 PM by Casablanca
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JD Lau Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:52 PM
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16. Thanks for this post. I'll pass it on to any WA or OR people.
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TruthOutDawg Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:14 PM
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9. That is the BEST news! Thanks for posting update! n/t
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Broken Acorn Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:18 PM
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12. We are starting so see a clear pattern here
Republicans are against recounts. I wonder why?

Why wouldn't they be supportive if democracy wins regardless of who wins? I believe that we are starting to see the true colors of the GOP.

Payback's a bitch!
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:33 PM
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14. kick
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