Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Anderson Cooper to talk about Ohio "conspiracy" tonight

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
Her Blondness Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:48 PM
Original message
Anderson Cooper to talk about Ohio "conspiracy" tonight
He's been leading up to it all week with a consipiracy story every night. I guess the Ohio election story is the big finale.

It will be interesting to see if he treats the story seriously, or if he puts it in the same category as the Area 51 UFO story he did earlier in the week. :tinfoilhat:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:49 PM
Response to Original message
1. Gee, I wonder
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
13. Send him this documentation; its solid; totally documented
Systematic Voter Suppression: STEALING VOTES IN COLUMBUS (malfeasance)

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/columbus.htm

The Free Press on Election Day posted a disturbing story, later confirmed by the Columbus Dispatch. The Free Press reported that Franklin County Board of Elections Director Matt Damschroder deliberately withheld voting machines from predominantly black Democratic wards in Columbus, and dispersed some of the machines to affluent suburbs in Franklin County. Damschroder is the former Executive Director of the Franklin County Republican Party. Sources close to the Board of Elections told the Free Press that Damschroder and Ohio’s Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell met with President George W. Bush in Columbus on Election Day. The idea was to discourage turnout in Democratic wards by forcing voters to wait in long lines at the polling places. Such a strategy would be far more effective than encouraging turnout in Republican wards. Elections are all about margins. There are 74 wards in Columbus. George W. Bush won 12 wards, with a margin of 7.35%. John F. Kerry won 62 wards, with a margin of 37.62%. Affecting Kerry’s turnout would greatly reduce his margin of victory in Columbus, giving the Republicans a much better chance of overtaking Kerry given a strong enough showing in suburban and small town Republican strongholds.

In order to investigate this matter, I obtained from the Franklin County Board of Elections all the data I needed in order to calculate, ward by ward, and precinct by precinct: (1) The ratio of registered voters per voting machine. (2) Percent turnout, calculated as total ballots cast divided by the number of registered voters. (3) Percent for Kerry, calculated as votes cast for Kerry divided by votes cast for president. (4) Margin of victory or defeat for Kerry, calculated as the difference between the vote totals for Kerry and Bush.

All 36 of the wards at the bottom of the list of voters per voting machine were won by Kerry, and they include most of his strongholds. In 29 of the 36 wards, Kerry exceeded his city wide share of 62.22% of the vote. However, these wards suffered a low voter turnout.It is important to understand what these numbers mean. The polls in Ohio were open from 6:30 A.M. to 7:30 P.M. That is 13 hours, or 780 minutes. If there are 400 registered voters per voting machine, and turnout is 60%, each voter has less than 3.5 minutes to vote, and that is assuming a steady stream of voters, with no rushes at certain hours. It also assumes no challenges to voters at the polls. If there are 550 registered voters per voting machine, and the turnout is 60%, each voter has 2.4 minutes. All of this amounts to theft of votes. It has been shown above that the Kerry precincts enjoyed a voter turnout similar to that of the Bush precincts when supplied with enough voting machines.

Thus I conclude that the withholding of voting machines from predominantly Democratic wards in the City of Columbus cost John Kerry upwards of 17,000 votes. A more detailed calculation could be done on a precinct by precinct basis, but that is not necessary here. The purpose is to illustrate the magnitude of the conspiracy. Matt Damschroder did not act alone. There are 74 wards and 472 precincts in Columbus, Ohio. It is not possible for one person to have delivered all the voting machines, and it is unlikely that nobody else was involved in planning where to deliver them. Anyone who associated with Mr. Damschroder on or shortly before Election Day should be investigated for possible complicity. Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D. 4 Fisher Street Canton, New York 13617 (315) 379-0820 richardhayesphillips@yahoo.com

Stealing Votes in Cleveland

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/cleveland.htm

Indications of possible ballot box stuffing in Warren County, Ohio

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/warren.htm

Favoritism in the Suburbs

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/suburbs.htm

Analysis Indicates Kerry could win Ohio with a "fair process" and fair vote count

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/uncounted.htm

www.flcv.com/ohiov04.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
2. When is he on? I don't watch TV news unless absolutely necessary
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Cable, CNN, afternoon/evening. depends where you live. see CNN.com n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. He is on at 6:00 pm Central Time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Thanks!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Any updates? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. Well, I thought Anderson took a fairly balanced approach. Blackwell
was on (grrrrr). Said same old things. Replay of Countdown interview minus comments on Jessie Jackson. All in all, not bad, I thought.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Thank you jamboi!
I really cannot bring myself to turn on the TV - they seem (except for KO) to butcher the story.

Hows that for fair? Only having Katherine Blackwell on, and no JJ? sarcasm off.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
3. until LAST NIGHT
I could have been knocked over with a feather (haha). I think he said he was going to wrap it up with Princess Diana. Or did I dream that? At this point, not really that interested anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:56 PM
Response to Original message
5. Sure wish we could transform the word "conspiracy"
from the headlines- it sounds so patronizing.
Here's my wish:
"Questioning the Election in Ohio" (non-partisan, non-angry, open ended, safe, etc.).

My fantasy of course is "Indications Point to Fraud in Ohio" but of course, that's going to have to wait a while....

Still not losing hope however. We asked for MSM and we are getting it....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #5
24. or like PBS did
last night the science of elections it was very good and non-biased except for one of the people they had on( in his opinion the electon would not be over turned) well Iguess it is just his opinion
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #5
25. Agree!
I also like saying it's a "C-O-N-spiracy." It's funny, if you broach the conspiracy thread with people they laugh at you. Then, you spew a few points, which they likely haven't heard, and then they start to wonder... I've had people come up to me days later and tell me they heard something, and did I think it was part of "it." Already, there's an "it." It's a good way to get people thinking and expand their minds and frame of reference.

I love conspiracy theories, and I have a million of them. My opinion of conspiracy theories is: If you don't have at least one, about something, you're just not thinking hard enough! :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:58 PM
Response to Original message
6. If he does....
then he needs to get spanked. :spank:

Actually, I watched his story last night about the theory that AIDS was spread to get rid of undesirables, including blacks and homosexuals. It was quite thought-provoking and shed light on some issues I was not aware of.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Broken Acorn Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. I heard that Bev is going to be on CNN tonight
Maybe he will bring up her freak out with KO and show her to be a wacko. Time will tell.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. which program? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Well, we know that...
the War on Drugs was intended by Republicans to go after blacks and their suffrage. Just look at how it's enforced.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. I didn't see it
But long ago (over 20 years. i can't remember just when) I heard that AIDS was introduced in Africa by the CIA through the blood supply as a way to lessen the threat of a growing black population.
Did they get into any of that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. Sorry I should have recorded it....
I think he focused on the origins of AIDS within the US. The interesting part involved a possible tie-in with an outbreak of syphilis I think, don't remember the details.

Whether or not there was a conspiracy in the initial spreading of AIDS, the fact is that the GOP considered it to be the wrath of God against gays at the time, and did little to significantly increase funding for AIDS research. The world is now paying the price for that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:37 PM
Response to Original message
12. Did he change it to Princess Di instead? Or does he do multiple nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. Both Diana and the election
This was not a good story. Here he had the Secretary of State of Ohio on the program and didn't ask him a single question re: number of voting machines in the precincts, third party candidate votes being extremely high in some precincts, etc. He just wasn't prepared. It did mention the GAO, etc. in the report.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:49 PM
Response to Original message
15. Blackwell has an evil smile. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:49 PM
Response to Original message
16. He's treating it as a legitimate story!
in the category: FACT CHECK. Mentioned blogs, theories defeated by facts. Glitches across country being investigated, however. 3 Democratic congressmen asking for investigations. Blackwell interviewed: historical facts backup bipartisan accountability. Coleman's accusation of being partisan. Response: we have a very transparent bipartisan process with balanced boards. Provisional ballot handling is a model for the country. No mention from him on accuracy of the voting machines and systems themselves!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. If it's such a model
then should other states require absentee ballots be printed on 80lb paper? Or, is it just him? :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jagsd01 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:51 PM
Response to Original message
17. Katherine Blackwell Discussion on CNN
Katherine , er, Ken noted that that boards were basically balanced between the parties...thats at the polling place, not at the Board of Elections County HQ !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 05:29 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC