TX: GOP Chair says elections "marred by fraud" & encourages grassroots

[dzika]

Please read this article where the GOP are accusing the Dems of fraud in Texas. The complaints and wording sound very familiar. It looks suspiciously like a PR tactic to me.


TX: State GOP Chair Says Contested Elections Were "Marred By Fraud," Encourages Grassroots To Contact House Members
by Vince_L

Thursday, December 02, 2004


http://www.polstate.com/archives/006304.html

(Please excuse if you have already seen this one.)

[RaulVB]

1. Take her to task, then

Demand a clear statement from this Texan Republican about the last election.

If massive fraud took place the whole process is invalid!

Agreed.

[dzika]

4. Maybe this is "Plan C"

If the MSM starts to use the F* word the R*s will cry foul unless they report the "fair and balanced" story.

Kind of like the way the networks continually said that both candidates were being "equally dishonest" during the campaigns.

[RaulVB]

6. Right!

If they dare to play that one they are lost.

If massive fraud took place the only solution is a general revote...and a "revolt" too!

Let them enter to the game, I would say.

[Lucky Luciano]

2. ARe they nuts?

Imagine if they even fixed Diebold to give Kerry too many votes in TExas (where he would still lose) to make it look like all the other calims by us are BS.

GRRRR

[truehawk]

5. I believe that the Thugs padded Texas for Bunnypants.

[rdmccur]

8. Did according to Madsen

[mbee]

3. If they want to see massive fraud in TX they only need to visit the brooks

rioters compliments of delay. Bring it on! Let's investigate both parties and find our who the real frauds are!

[cavanaghjam]

7. The only fraud in Texas

is Tom DeLay claiming to be christian. or human. or cognizant of anything but which way the wind blows.

I think the pesticides ate a hole where his tiny brain used to be.

[KaryninMiami]

9. I say Bring them On! Marred by fraud they say?

Ok then- LET'S COUNT THE VOTES. Including the ones hidden in those black boxes. Fraud is not a partisan issue so if they believe that there's fraud and it's coming from the Democratic team, let's go for it. Anyone have a list of who we can write to and call to request a recount? I say we bombard them with emails demanding a complete and through investigation. Anyone else care to join in?

Here's my suggestion:

Dear XXXX
We are shocked and horrified to discover that you believe the election in Texas might have been marred by fraud. As the right to vote is a non-partisan issue, we are demanding a complete investigation into the possibility that this might have occurred. After all, we are talking about our constitution here and the possibility that some people might not have had their votes count in the way they had intended. Please advise how we can support your efforts to make sure that every vote counts in Texas.

Sincerely,

[dzika]

10. Good idea.

This could just bring more attention to the fraud issue. One thing is for sure, it's going to be difficult to get Congress to pass Voter rights if they feel it is a Dem-only issue.

Either way, they will probably just pass rights for voting machines instead of voters.

[witchhazl]

11. They probably rigged the "fraud" themselves to set the Dems up.

So if we write letters supporting investigations, which I agree is a good idea in principle, we still need to suggest that possibiiity & push for statewide recounts & investigations.

I wonder about Texas -- someone posted from blackboxvoting.org that Texas handed over all the FOIA requests they made, and at no cost.
What's wrong with that picture?

Remember, Rove's always 20 moves ahead.

[anamandujano]

18. definitely statewide recounts & investigations

I voted in the dem primary and had to wait about 20 minutes while they kept being disconnected and re-dialing. They said a few times that I could come back another time. I waited. I was the only voter there.


At early voting, I had to wait for almost the same reason, and they moved people in back of me to a different computer to check in before voting. I'm in a repuke neighborhood but I was holding the blue registration card.


I'm willing to bet they pulled the same stuff here, suppressing when possible, padding when possible. If they set the dems up, it will be very contained and no doubt, if this isn't a bluff we have our races right here.

edit to add--
I'm in texas

[Why Syzygy]

20. yeah but

he sits under the wheel of Air Force One.
How bright is that?

I wouldn't put him 20 moves ahead. More like the dust bin sweeper, sweeping butts into his little ash can.
That's my visual anyway.

[zann725]

26. I agree. I've had a feeling they'd set-up Dems in reverse-Fraud scenario

After all, Bushco and Rove have been oddly quiet during the recounts. All the more time for them to be quietly planning their next media blitz.

[geo]

17. I like your thinking...

Mr. Madsen's statements are consistent with fraud in Texas. Wouldn't it be funny if someone in their own party blew the whistle on them? :) -G

[rainbow4321]

24. Betcha repukes wouldn't want to...

start with Dallas or Harris County..cuz that would lead to whatever they may have done to help Sessions and Delay. But hey, while they are here, they can also find out why it is that the good, open minded people of Dallas County elected a Hispanic lesbian for County Sheriff by a few percentage points and 4 different local DEM judges won in their parts of the county by 2% or so , yet SHRUB "won" Dallas County by 2%. Yeah, let's open ALL the books, guys, not just the ones YOU lost. Guess they are wanting home field advantage in the court system?

Ooohhhh....then there is THIS Diebold video to explore..click on the link and pick your media player choice. I know that I have posted the link in DU before but as long as the repubs are wanting to head down here and play games, here it is again...it can be shown to the repukes who come to town and afterwards we have them explain why the Diebold guy didn't seem too concerned with discrepanies in the "practice sessions" on the video:

http://safevoting.org/

Diebold acknlowedging that they, and they alone, will decide when changes to their code are "significant" enough to disclose to public officials;
* A test run resulting in e-voting tallies that do not match;
* Admitting that some e-voting machines have trouble adding correctly; and
* Acknowledging that it is sometimes possible for voters to cast multiple votes on a ballot, and that those ballots may end up being throw out in court because of machine errors.
_________________________________________

While they are at it, have them come here to Collin County and they can 'splain why one of our voting machine gadgets had to be sent TO CANADA to "extract" the votes a WEEK after the election...even though the Diebold Elections Systems office is based IN Collin County.

They really don't want to explore Texas.. I imagine if it looks to the national repubs that this is where it is headed, we will suddenly STOP hearing the local repubs whining after they get their hands slapped by the out of state repuke big dogs.

[Carolab]

12. Here's my suggestion

suggest this chair urge the Republican reps to add their names to the GAO investigation

[dzika]

16. The GAO investigation would be OK..

It seems like I read that the GAO doesn't have the authority to investigate individual irregularities. So a representative joining this request would be a fairly benign thing to do.

I'm in NC and my Representative has already joined the request for a GAO investigation. Should we write to a particular Texas representative?

[smartvoter]

13. What REALLY PISSES ME OFF ABOUT THIS...

Is our side doesn't go for the jugular like this. I'm so tired of our side being kicked around by conservatives that there aren't words to express it.

[BrightKnight]

14. It sounds like they have something to hide.

[JunkYardDogg]

15. Of Course their was Fraud in Tex ass

The Rethugs can't figure out why there were any Democrat votes
registered at all in Tex ass
Now they really have to get a couple more electric chairs
and start Roundin' up them Commie Dems
Gotta make Tex ass safe for our FearLess Leader

[newyawker99]

27. Hi JunkYardDogg!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[texpatriot2004]

19. For some time now, I have noticed that the Repugs accuse

others of what they themselves do. You know, like psychological projection, for example one person in a relationship cheats on the other and the cheater constantly accuses the other of cheating. The GOP and the Repugs have this knack for blaming others for things that they are doing. Ever notice?

[burn the bush]

21. let's recount Texas then

I wouldn't mind if they recounted every state. I don't care if the pugs or the dems did the fraud, I want it all out in the open. We might be surprised to find that the reason the dems aren't exactly jumping on the bus with us is that they too have committed some voter fraud. But they don't have the ties that the repugs do, so i imagine the dem fraud activity would be on a much smaller scale. But I do imagine that there has been some incidences of wrong doing on our part and the pugs are going to be sure to scream about any that they can find. I;m sure though that the cases they find of dem wrong doing is going to pale compared to what we hopefully gonna find on the pugs.

[bleever]

22. Well shoot! Let's hand count all the ballots! Nationwide!

It's the least we can do for them. ;)

[Why Syzygy]

23. Fer Sure

I'm agreeing with a republican? Who woulda thunk?

She went on to call the problems she cited "...outrageous and illegal abuse of the American political system..." and noted it "goes far beyond the usual margin of election-day error."

[Helga Scow Stern]

25. That's a bully-talking demon letter....

When you get caught victimizing someone else, you squeal like hell, cry, whimper, accuse with great indignation that you have been hurt by the very one you just finished beating the shit out of. It's very convincing and works a few times, then it becomes transparent except to the ones who are just as sociopathic as the bully.

Since the selection, it has become clear to me that people who react in these strange ways--even regular people at the gas station, not just the higher-ups like this witch sending out this klavern kommunique--have thoroughly digested the talking points. Of course this harpy probably just got an e-mail telling her exactly what to say.

I used to think, "oh, they must feel just as disenfranchised as we do to talk that way--poor things," like when I heard a woman saying she would leave the country if Kerry won. But now I recognize that the reason they so faithfully reflect what we are saying is because they are specifically brainwashed from the top down through the outlets of Faux, Rush, klanchurch, and in Ventura County at least, by the many Christian brainwash stations that play Christian rock and preach virulent pulpit hatewing propaganda in between songs.

I know there are distinct strategies for dealing with bullies....

The gates of hell are opening now that this massive fraud has been committed and they have gotten fatter, and these demons are oozing up out of the cracks--like in that letter. Hissing, spitting, screaming now that anyone dare question their dominion. Fascinating.