This was posted yesterday and has been buried in back pages.

[mdb]

I thought I'd bring it back up.

There is talk of 90,000 votes without a presidential choice in Ohio.

I wonder if this has to do with multiple precincts in one building and ballots going to the wrong machine in this building and not being counted correctly.

This video on Democracy Now where co-host Juan Gonzalez talks exactly about this.

Here is the Democracy Now site with the video.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/03/164...

And here is the direct link to the video.
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2004/dec/...

This deserves more attention.

[berniew1]

1. These are punch card failures(hanging chad); most will go to Kerry

This is not new. These are mostly undervotes on punch card ballots, similar to Florida in 2000. Most counties in Ohio use punch card ballots which are subject to high undervotes. Most of these are in the Urban Kerry areas. There are maps showing their distribution.
The majority of these votes when hand counted are likely to go to Kerry. Ohio has uniform rules on how to count hanging chad. That should begin soon. With all of the indications of glitches, irregularities, mistakes, fraud, as well as these; Kerry has a good chance to overtake Bush in the recount- just based on things that have already been documented by Dr. Phillips.

[righteous1]

3. Highly unlikely

As a matter of fact the over/under vote total was kess in 2004 then in 2000. 93000 and 97000 respectively. Quite a % bit lower considering the significant increase in turnout

[mdb]

6. You don't seem to be following me.

I am not referring to the well known hanging chad. Here is the story.

You have one building with more than one precinct within this building. OK now you vote, and bring your ballot up to the machine to be counted.

Within this building they have a machine counting for one precinct and a machine counting for the other precinct. Here is the dirty part. You have each of these machines set up to tally the votes differently according to the difference in ballots. When you use the wrong machine to tally the vote the machine will read it wrong thus not counting as a presidential choice. As the video points out you would have thousands upon thousands of misread ballots.

[neohippie]

2. It is being discussed in the Chicago Tribune Thread n/t

[shraby]

4. After the hanging chad debacle in Florida

in 2000, I would think people would be watching their ballots for any hanging chads, so I surmise that will be the least of worries when recounting.

[berniew1]

5. Most of the uncounted ballots are punch card failures(hanging chad)

Most of the uncounted ballots are punch card failures(hanging chad)