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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:42 PM
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Anyone interested in listening to the Rally in Columbus Ohio can do at Rad
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:46 PM
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1. I HEAR EM FIGHTING GUYS
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:52 PM
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2. Thank you, Twist_U_Up
Listening now.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:52 PM
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3. Im listening now...LIVE
thanks!
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:52 PM
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4. quiker link
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:58 PM
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5. It would be most appreciated for
some snippets for those of us not in a position to use speakers right now. thanks !:)
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:59 PM
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6. this sounds like a pretty big crowd!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:06 PM
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7. 3 to 4 thousand people according to eyewitness
Bitter cold wind, lines of busses with people who are too cold, police presence on the edges of crowd...
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:08 PM
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8. David Litel from Washington DC to speak next.
Welcome
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:08 PM
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9. We are on are way to changing our name.
Every time we defeat him we have to go back and re-defeat him again.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:09 PM
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10. We are going to keep shouting until we are heard.
I won't go back over the reasons that you know that this is electoral coup 2004.

They are out to lunch an 430 Capitol St.

Thank god we have libertarians and greens...
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:11 PM
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12. Ask yourselves look a couple of years ago
were we right when we said SH did not have WMD? We were right.
Were we right when we said they were lying about how much the war would cost in dollars lives and casualties? Were we right? Are we right about this?
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:16 PM
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15. Conclude:
All we're going to get from the commercial news media is advice telling us to sit down and shut up. We are a part of the reality based community. We think we should trush things we can see with our eyes. We are not going to countenance faith-based voting.

I continue to see the Democratic party as an extremely important institution in this country. Others may be right.

This is about political power and how to break the Rep stranglehold on the process of election.

We urgently need to return to power because as long as * is Pres so much will remain undone. So much will remain unbegun.

Lost and hungry to be found and fed.
Peaceful world waiting to be built and kept.
The work will never be done. Not ever.

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:22 PM
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20. Many Huge thanks!
:toast:
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:10 PM
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11. thanks for the thread
listening now
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:13 PM
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13. nevermind
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 02:14 PM by kgfnally
found it
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:15 PM
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14. Thank you, awesome! n/t
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:17 PM
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16. thanks! n/t
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:18 PM
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17. Is this being cover anywhere in the MSM?
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 02:18 PM by Cobalt Violet
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:20 PM
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18. nope amazing huh n/t
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:41 PM
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32. The revolution will not be televised. n/t
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noclonyofthechimp Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 06:21 PM
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61. Listening! I am calling the media and going to SCREA,M AT THEM!
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:20 PM
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19. Cliff Arnebeck coming up
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:28 PM
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21. they just cut him off at the criminal charges part wtf n/t
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:30 PM
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22. where the frig is the media wtf this is ridicules
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:30 PM
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23. Too bad .. he is a great spokesperson
be sure to view the video interview of Cliff (2 days ago) on C-Span
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impeachthescoundrel Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:32 PM
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24. Can't hear it
I would love to hear the rally, but I have had the program open for 40 minutes now, and still nothing...must be my dial up connection. I sure hope somebody is downloading this one!:wtf:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:53 PM
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40. this was posted last night
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:35 PM
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25. Who is talking now?
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:35 PM
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26. fritakis ? hes fired up lol n/t
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:37 PM
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27. Who is he?
He was great!

Lynn Landes up now!
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:48 PM
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57. Fitrakis is the greatest
He's the Free Press guy upon whose work so much of the movement has depended. His speech was a reworking of the Gettysburg Address. Awesome!
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:37 PM
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28. They where saying that
there where buses LOADED with people that didnt want to get out because it was too cold and that the meetings tonite would be the part where they break out the big guns cant wait . I think that starts at 7
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:45 PM
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54. No.
That starts at 6pm EST, 5pm CST, 4pm MST, and 3pm PST.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:47 PM
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56. TOO COLD?!
That's just ridiculous. I can't believe that. There were people in those busses who didn't get out to join us who were freezing our asses off?

What, democracy isn't worth a little chill?

I can tell you this, we could've used a few more warm bodies down there in front of the State House.

Did they really say this on the radio?

ARRRRRGH!

I mean, it's not like anyone was in danger of frost bite. It was in the 40s, just a real mean wind chill.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:16 PM
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62. NO Shit
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 09:16 PM by Carolab
We are all a bunch of WUSSES. PEOPLE!!!!!

If 10,000 Ukrainians can stand in SUBZERO temps for two weeks, WHY CAN'T WE?


MY GOD!!!!! IF I LIVED IN OHIO I WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. As it is I planning to drive from MN to help with the recount when it starts, so I couldn't afford to make two trips.

ALL OF YOU WHO LIVE IN OHIO AND ARE NOT RALLYING AND DEMONSTRATING--SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:23 PM
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64. I was there it was the wind, that was misery, you couldn't even hold up
signs and the Blackwell RECUSE graphic I handed out was flapping off my clipboard as I handed it out.

I saw at least 2 people who had my BUSH CHEATED 04 graphic, and 2 people told me they were form DU. I had red theatrical blood on my hands, a black hoodie, 2 clipboards with flyers, 1 was pink and said Ilegally Blond and my sign was on silver insulation board and had a Ken Blackwell pic on it. Go to http://somanmblst.tripod.com to download the high res version of the files.



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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:20 AM
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65. Hi---I didn't see you but
my husband and brother-in-law must have, since they had your cool flyers! Thanks for being there and suffering in the cold. My husband and I tried to make a sign, but we messed up both sides of the piece of foam core we had. Luckily, quite a few people had extras to share, so I did get to wave around a small sign (on one side it said "Honk 4 Recount" which I showed when I was up at High Street, and the other said "Demand Justice Now," which I waved when I was in the crowd.)

People there all seemed like such good folks. I just wish there had been more, I don't know, menace. More "we mean f-ckin' business"! More rowdiness. More "grrrrr" and less "yay!"

Can't wait for the recount to start... I volunteered and got on the three mailing lists (which had problems for a while, but seemed to be back on track). Sounds like we'll get some sort of training next week.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:39 PM
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29. list of speakers
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 02:39 PM by soup
SPEAKERS:

Greg Palast (journalist, author of The Best Democracy Money Can Buy)
Lynn Landes (journalist, EcoTalk.org)
Ohio State Senator Teresa Fedor (D-Toledo)
Cliff Arnebeck (lead litigant in the Contest of Election suit)
John Bonifaz (National Voting Rights Institute)
Bill Burga (Ohio AFL-CIO) (invited)
Bob Fitrakis (Columbus Free Press)
Sean Grayson (AFSME)
Thom Hartman (activist, author) (invited)
Reuben Herrera (Latino Activist)
Jad Hummeidan (Council on American Islamic Relations)
David Lytel (organizer of BeAmerica)
Reverend Bill Moss (former Columbus school board member)
Anita Rios (Green Party)
Ian Solomon (Associate Dean & Professor, Yale School of Law) (invited)
Petey Tallie (Ohio AFL-CIO) (invited)
Charleta Tavares (Columbus City Council member) (invited)
Reverend Mylian Waite (Antioch Baptist Church, Cleveland, Ohio) (invited)

http://www.caseohio.info/

Lynn Landes up now (2:38 p.m. eastern time)
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thjay Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:39 PM
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30. who's the gal speaking now?
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:46 PM
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33. She so right about what do we want to put on the line for this. n/t
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:40 PM
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31. shes saying the machines have to go n/t
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:51 PM
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34. What is Palast calling Katherine Blackwell? n/t
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:51 PM
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36. calling the OH SoS "Mr. BlackSMITH"
heheheh
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:52 PM
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38. Sounded like Mr "Blacksick" to me?! n/t
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:49 PM
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58. He was saying BlackSick (as opposed to BlackWell) ha ha n/t
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:53 PM
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39. black stick isnt it ?
because they said no sticks at rally
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:53 PM
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41. heh- my bad
the wind is garbling the feed
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:55 PM
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43. yea i had to crank it up to catch it n/y
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:51 PM
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37. blackstick loln/t
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:51 PM
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35. Palast speaking now
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 02:57 PM by kgfnally
mentioned votes in dumpsters

"When the Bush family tells us they're going to help us vote, I get a little nervous"

Now talking about the "caging list" and African American precincts

"I'm sure Mr. Ashcroft will be on this ANY DAY..."

They're going to talk at a school on East Livingston Ave... (Palast said Leonard St. ?) about an issue... one million black votes were not counted in 2000, worse this year... we have an apartheid election system in America.... what we are seeing here in OH is a lynching by laptop... we have an SoS in charge of the vote count who is also in charge of the BC campaign.... the only way you can wear two hats is if you have two heads...

now he's done...
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:54 PM
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42. speaking alot about thrown out provisionals
and high percentage goes against black precincts
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:56 PM
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44. Oh! I wish I was there!!!!
:( "A lynching by laptop!"

"An apartheid system of voting in the US"
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:58 PM
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47. Rally Monday 11 at Blacksticks door lol n/t
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:59 PM
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49. Are you sure he said Black stick?
Sounded like BlackSick to me, you know, the opposite of Black Well?!
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:21 PM
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51. either one works
I just figured that they where banning banner sticks so Palast started calling him that to fire up the crowd
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:57 PM
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45. 6 pm coverage from school its over n/t
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:57 PM
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46. Palast warned Blackwell at the end...
he will investigate HIM!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:58 PM
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48. Good. Put the fear into Blackwell.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:03 PM
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55. we need to send Blackwell to jail
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:01 PM
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50. This doesnt look good
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:28 PM
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52. We'll just have to wait and see
There will be pictures and other reports. I tend to believe the speaker who estimaed 3K-4K. But then, this might be wishful thinking.
:hi:
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:39 PM
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53. I agree
I will have to wait and here other reports. Why would the speaker lie about how many was there? That don't make sense.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:59 PM
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59. Does anyone know at what point the rally news starts on the link
I wanted to fast forward to the rally and the link doesn't have that option?
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 06:08 PM
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60. Why is the DATE WRONG on their website????
"Ohio Rally and Symposium Saturday December 8th

Radio Left will broadcast the Rally live from 1 to 3 PM EST and the Symposium live from 6 to 8 PM EST"

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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:23 PM
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63. Thanks n/t
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