"In a Twist, Professors Find War Affected Bush Votes"

[DARE to HOPE]

"Study Says Deaths of U.S. Troops Cost Bush Up to Millions of Votes"

By TIFFANY HSU -- DAILY CALIFORNIAN ONLINE

Thursday, December 2, 2004


"Despite nationwide polls downplaying the Iraq war as a negative factor in President Bush’s re-election efforts, a study released by two UC Berkeley professors Tuesday found that the deaths of U.S. troops in Iraq cost Bush up to millions of votes.

The professors also said that Bush won no extra votes from his anti-gay marriage stance.

The study indicated that Bush would have garnered 53 percent of the vote instead of 51 had there been fewer U.S. casualties from the Iraq war."

http://www.dailycal.org/article.php?id=17130


This is one more study showing the overwhelming nature of the opposition to Bush in this election, and also what I have been telling my email list for the last month, that the "gay marriage" business is just SPIN!

(This is the first time I've posted an article - hope I did it right.)

[IndyOp]

1. Interesting

very interesting. So let me see if I have this right:

The ongoing war COST Bush millions of votes.
Gay marraige amendments did NOT help Bush.
Fewer Latinos voted for Bush than was initially believed. (MSNBC admits the exit Edison/Mitofksy polls were flawed, now claims only 40% voted for Bush - while the Latino group WCVI says it was closer to 33%).
The youth turned out in droves (and voted for Kerry).
African Americans across the nation voted for Kerry.
Women voted for Kerry.
KANSAS voted for Kerry.

... and Bush won?

:wtf:

[RC]

2. What are you going to believe?

Your own lying eyes and ears or the neo-cons that are running this country into the ground???

[bemis12]

3. Kansas voted for Kerry?

Where'd you get THAT one?

[IndyOp]

4. Sorry - I took a shortcut when referring to one of TruthIsAll's posts...

Kansas was one of nine states in which the discrepancy from exit polls to reported votes moved in Kerry's favor - by 2.4% - the biggest Blue State shift of all. It was still a landslide for Bush. Nonetheless, while exit polls said that Kerry got 35% of the vote, the tabulated votes indicated that Kerry got 37% of the vote.

If you believe that the shift from exit polls to tabulated votes in Bush' favor (in 41 states) indicates the presence of fraud in multiple states, then the Blue Shift in Kansas suggests that Kansas was *not* one of those states. Further Kansas was more pro-Kerry than exit polls (and pundits) expected. If this was true of Kansas, then just imagine what we would have seen if the vote tallies hadn't been hacked...

What's the Matter With Kansas? Absolutely nothing. Blue Shift to Kerry: 2.4% (11/22)
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=69907>

Again, sorry... I am usually reliable. Nobody's perfect.

:shrug:

[rockedthevoteinMA]

5. Omg how much of this BS

are they going to try and make us believe?

They keep releasing all these reports saying *'s votes were overestimated in every category...

I think my brain may explode soon

:wtf:

[progressoid]

6. WTF indeed!

nt

[Patsy Stone]

7. It's a miracle...

A bona fide Rovian-style miracle. Praise the Lord...

[Straight Shooter]

8. That gay marriage is a red herring; I was arguing that this evening!

Just got back from a get-together. People were mad as hell about the gay marriage amendment, and I told them, "Look, that was a red herring. It was contrived so the bush team could say that's the reason they won. But they didn't win. It's just a cover-up. That was their agenda all along, to have what appeared to be a plausible explanation for a win, but it was really to hide the theft of the election."

Thanks so much for this. I knew the gay marriage amendment was all smoke and mirrors BS.

[DARE to HOPE]

9. I was also moved by the widespread opposition to the war

...even in the red states.

From what I have been reading, there may be many more casualties than we have been told. The horrors going on in Iraq are just not making it through our MSM. But Randi Rhodes, and Molly Ivins have each talked about our napalming of Fallujah just this week.

God help us.

You're welcome, BTW. They keep seeking to divide us. But "We are not divided" and "We shall overcome some day."

[PATRICK]

10. What we may be seeing

is a steady backtracking from all the dumb speculative "explanations" that started smoking on election night. I think some(newspeople)are scared how empowered the lunatic wing has become because of the need to "justify" a Bush win. Also, whenever they release all the exit poll data only one possible "explanation" will survive.

Namely, that Rove and company got out the vote, played dirty and distracted while the other campaign was suppressed(or self-moderated by caution) so that no KO landed on Bush. That is the LAST myth but it won't show up in polls, only as an assertion backed up by the murky vote totals themselves. The esteemed GOP machine was revealed in 2000 to be in large part- a multifold fraud. Yet the Dems never 'got it", named it or prepared for it.

The Berkeley professors are playing this from a friendlier side in that chipping away ALL the foolish tripe explanations will leave the Bush miracle bare for the fraud that is, was, and always will be.