cnn just reported ohio voter fraud

[saddemocrat]

This is the most I've ever seen discussed in the MSM. No mention of tin foil hats...just that due to glitches some groups are calling for a recount. Errors nationwide mentioned with some of them being debunked and others still questioned.

[goclark]

1. Then it must be a BIG story they are hiding

I can't believe that CNN would use those words unless they know they will have egg on their face if they don't give it a little mention.

Is this the first time they are using the word FRAUD!

[rfranklin]

9. Before we get excited--did they use the word "fraud?"

Just asking.

[berniew1]

14. CNN coverage has basically been a coverup; need educating: see doc.

Systematic Voter Suppression: STEALING VOTES IN Ohio Urban Areas (by ward/precinct)
Stealing Votes in Columbus
http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/columbus.htm
Stealing Votes in Cleveland http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/cleveland.htm

www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=date&sele...

Indications of possible ballot box stuffing in S.W. Ohio counties www.flcv.com/swohio.html
http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/warren.htm

Indications of irregularities or fraud in several Ohio counties
www.flcv.com/fraudioh.html

Favoritism in the Suburbs http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/suburbs.htm

Analysis Indicates Kerry could win Ohio with a "fair process" and fair vote count
http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/uncounted.htm

Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D. 4 Fisher Street Canton, New York 13617 [phone] [e-mail]

[berniew1]

15. People need to educate their media and national media using solid info

People need to educate their media and national media using solid info
like that of Dr. Phillips in the previous post.

[bunny planet]

23. They've already had Eggs Benedict all over their faces for years

[liberalnurse]

2. Please, can someone clarify.....

What does MSM stand for here?

[cilla4progress]

3. Mainstream Media n/t

[3smos]

4. main stream media

[lonestarnot]

5. Well what was said?

Damn I need a report!

[saddemocrat]

7. what was said

I tried to find a blurb online but they don't have anything there yet.

The titles up said voter fraud questions or something similar and the reporter talked about groups calling for a recount because of many glitches and problems. They said 'some people do not believe Bush won Ohio' but also that the Kerry campaign wasn't involved...

[liberalnurse]

6. Thanks folks.....

I get sooooo many initials in my employement and private/political circles that I just can't keep up.....:loveya:

[lonestarnot]

8. will check daily

[txindy]

18. As a nurse, I'll bet you do get an awful lot of acronyms to deal with!

My need to understand all of those initials doesn't look so serious anymore. :hi:

[lonestarnot]

24. MSM Main stream media

[liberalnurse]

28. Plus, folks use unapproved acronyms too.

To compound things; I'm now the Nurse Supervisor at the jail. Lots of police lingo to catch-up on.......:scared:

[RC]

20. People are getting way too lazy.

Spell things out or at least define what you are talking about.
MSM = MicroSoft Mush, My shitty maggot, Main Shipping Method?

[suziedemocrat]

10. I'm so psyched - Fraud stories can no longer be ignored and dismissed! n/t

[IAMREALITY]

11. Not What I'm Waiting For

The majority of MSM stories I have seen are very small, almost dismissive, and even the ones that pay homage to it at all are still very soft-toned.

What I am waiting for, and feel we are far closer to getting, are MSM reports that show an actual concern for the fraud, not just a reporting of it. An MSM report where the journalist presents it with an attitude of 'holy shit, this is whacked, what the heck is going on here?' rather then just 'ho hum, couple discrepancies, don't mean too much'.

I think we are getting there though, and I very much look forward to it when it comes.

[glarius]

12. They dismissed it as unlikely because of LARGE MARGIN IN POPULAR VOTE

[BlueDog2u]

13. They should look at New Mexico...

Here are almost 20,000 of those "popular votes," more than enough to put New Mexico in Kerry's cplumn:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x114995

[Downtown Hound]

17. Which was exactly the purpose of padding Bush's #'s so much

Take thousands of votes from Kerry in purple counties, take a few dozen in Blue precincts, and give Bush a wide margin that can't be questioned. What I want to hear the media answer is how a president with 50% and below approval ratings managed to get 9,000,000 more votes than he did the last time. If you think about it, that right there is a case for fraud.

[Straight Shooter]

19. The problem is, Where did the large margin occur?

CNN is an expert in telling only part of the truth, and pretending they are reporting the whole unvarnished story in an unbiased fashion.

I want to hear the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help them Gawd.

Liars. None of those reporters would survive a witness stand in a court of law under cross examination by a competent prosecutor.

[suston96]

21. Under my tinfoil hat...

There was a two pronged attack:

First, fix the votes in the battleground states, and especially - Florida and Ohio.

Second, fix the votes in states that would go for Kerry or Bush in a big way so that the fraud would not be questioned, but...

the aggregate totals would widen the national margin between Kerry and Bush and make it look like Bush had a "national mandate", giving validation to the election in Bush's favor.

Looks like the plan worked!

[Blue_In_AK]

27. Alaska

Wearing my tinfoil, too. Alaska would have been a perfect place for Bush to do a little padding ... this has been a republican state since 1970 so it wouldn't be noticed. Republican senate candidate Lisa Murkowski defeated democrat Tony Knowles by approximately 9,400 votes. However, Bush defeated Kerry by 79,864 votes. This does not make sense to me. WHY would so many people vote for Tony Knowles and not John Kerry?

[SmokingJacket]

25. Just means the fraud was huge. n/t

[Hobbes199]

26. And in 2008 they'll dismiss it because...

The exit polls show that Bush was ahead throughout the day.

[Senator]

16. ANY attention is good. But we must do more >>

We MUST take action

Here is a Declaration of Intent that we all need to demand that our "leaders" sign on to.

It's one thing to sit on your hands (ala Jan. 6th 2001) while no one is watching. But it's quite another to be put on the spot to do your duty, or fail to, and then have to look in the mirror every morning.

They must be shamed.

[saddemocrat]

22. the good thing..

that everyone is dismissing is that it was reported in the Main Stream Media and the tone was not dismissive. It was given more attention than I've seen yet and there was no mention of conspiracy theories or tin foil beanies. It may not be the 1 hour special but it is definitely better than a couple of weeks ago.