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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:25 PM
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Important: Results of ABC-7 news coverage on Ohio recount
I just watched my local news on WZVN ABC-7 at 11:00 and it was awesome coverage of election problems. Here is the website
www.abc-7.com The reporter who covered the story was Patrick Taney and CNN was also mentioned. The first few sentences stated that there was a recount in Ohio and Pres. Bush may not have won the election. Cliff Arneback, Jesse Jackson, BBV, Common Dreams, Together.org, Boston Globe, New York Times, and John Kerry were all mentioned. There was video of Arneback and Jackson. They also stated the U.S. Election Commission reported problems across the country and was investigating along with 3 democratic congressman. I will list the reporters email below and the viewer comment email for ABC under it. Please email these people and thank them for their coverage.

patrick.taney@abc-7.com
mailto:comments@abc-7.com

If you go to www.abc-7.com you will see an area that says abc online video for news @ 6:00. They usually update this fairly quickly and hopefully we will be able to watch the video for the 11:00 news shortly. I will post again once link has been updated.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:27 PM
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1. WOW, they SURPRISED ME!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:49 PM
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23. We 've come a long way from "conspiracy theory"
thank you for noticing and reporting this to us. I am shocked and delighted!
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:50 PM
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24. and they didn't mention anything about conspiracy theory or tin foil
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:27 PM
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2. Nice
Rock on!
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:28 PM
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3. thank you
and YEAH!
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:28 PM
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4. Me too, the best coverage I've seen so far
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:29 PM
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6. seems to be getting better every day
i get it now, i just posted about all my confusion in the other thread....oops
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:32 PM
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8. That's wot I'm saying.
It's getting better every day.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:31 AM
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54. Feels great to be "We the people..."; our forefathers would be proud!
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:44 AM
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57. Yes they would.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:13 PM
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63. Amen! n/t
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:29 PM
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5. Holy Jesus!
They said it?
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:32 PM
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7. CALL THEM! EMAIL THEM! SEND THANK YOU NOTES! Flowers!
This is a big step. We need to figure out how to get this over to other ABC Stations. Maybe when we write to them we can ask them what we can do to see that this gets distributed throughout their network. Any other ideas?
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:32 PM
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9. Thanks floridadem 30
can't wait for the update!
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:33 PM
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10. Don't forget to email our thanks for the coverage
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:47 PM
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22. Done n/t
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:34 PM
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11. Messages sent.
Hopefully this is the beginning of some movement into the mainstream media!
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:35 PM
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13. Thank you, I hope so too.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:35 PM
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12. I'm not reading this wrong?
"Bush may not have won the election"They really said that on the MSM? Your not playing with us?

I'm in shock.......well if thats not a new development i don't know what is
thank you so very much for the NEWS!!!!!!!
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:36 PM
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14. The reporter said bush may not have won the election, Patrick really said
it.
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:41 PM
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18. Wow, alright!
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:44 PM
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20. well I'll be damned
wonder if Shrub & family caught that one
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:02 AM
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27. I'll bet Jeb did!!
He's probably on the phone with **sh right now!! HE HE HE :)
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:43 PM
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19. Expect Repug reaction in big waves now! N/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:58 AM
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39. Just what we want them to do -- RE-act....
...that will drive the media and that will provide ever more of our fellow citizens an opportunity to begin getting a glimpse of how threatened our democracy is.

You are so correct that they will, now, freak!

And, now to the 'move on' we can all say 'halt, let's do a careful check of the status of each of our votes, of all the votes, before we hurry past the the catastrophic event our franchise suffered on 2 Nov 2004.'

Peace.

"Did Bush Know?"
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:37 PM
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15. Done - complimented them all
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:37 PM
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68. Me too n/t
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zapp Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:37 PM
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16. ok so all i see is for fridays webcast
help me out here.....searching...
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:47 PM
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21. They haven't updated yet but on the program listings you should be able to
record it at www.abc-7.com/ontv.shtml 1st listing under abc-7 news at 11:00
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:40 PM
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17. Thank and encourage CNN, too.
They've started to report on the voting issues a little bit, and they're taking it seriously. No statements about "conspiracy theories" or anything like that. Their coverage is still lacking, to be sure, but so far it's the most national coverage we've seen from the main-stream media outside of Olbermann's show.

Encourage them to keep reporting on the issue! Tell them you found their report interesting and want to know more...

Contact Info for CNN Headline News:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?33

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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:31 AM
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35. Ok but please ask that CNN Reports the truth.
Here is my post after watching the CNN report this morning:

I just watched their report- mostly about Ohio. They reported 400 marchers which seems to be way off base (especially after seeing their footage). Anyone know how many actually attended? Please clarify so we can respond en masse to their "incomplete" report.

Next, they claimed that ALL over the overvote reports in Ohio precincts have now been corrected. My understanding is that this is not true. Anyone who can confirm what is true regarding precincts reporting more votes then voters?

They also said that the Kerry campaign is not involved with the Ohio investigation (and played a clip of the Boston concession speech). . My understanding is that the Kerry campaign and attorneys are involved and are supporting the investigation. Did I miss something? I know they waffled about the amount of their involvement but the last thing I read said they were working with all parties on the recount efforts. Anyone have any other info?

Finally, they reported that "a few" members of Congress have asked the "General Accounting Office" to investigate some of the voter irregularities. First of all, it's not a few members of Congress- it's more like 8 or 10 members. Can someone clarify how many? Next, I think CNN should be reminded that their investigation demand (there were 2 actually) includes 57,000 reports of irregularities and problems. Might this not be a big enough number for CNN to report on? 100-200 ok- but 57,000? GEEEEZZZZ.

Also, the GAO is no longer called the General Accounting Office - CNN conveniently used an outdated, less important sounding title to spin this to downplay the impact of Tuesday's hearing. CNN needs to know that the General Accountability Office is a powerful, non-partisan agency that works as the congressional watchdog on behalf of the Congress and the American public. Their role is to evaluate complaints and issues that relate to federally funded programs (such as elections), audits federal expenditures, and issues legal opinions. When GAO reports its findings to Congress, it recommends actions. Please tell CNN that this is a MAJOR AGENCY and having them agree to a hearing and a major investigation is no small matter. (Perhaps we might suggest that they cover the hearing on Tuesday? Interview some of the Congress Persons involved?)

Please write to CNN and demand that they print the real story- not their version which truly does little to demonstrate the enormousnesses of this issue. !
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:47 AM
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37. Kerry NOT involved, and a few other answers --
Kerry lawyers simply supported the 3rd Party candidates in their lawsuit where one OH county didn't want to be bothered with this. (We won.) He's not involved with the recount whatsoever, and the judge in one suit (the same one?) MIGHT have forced Blackwell to speed up the certification and recount were it not for the fact that the 3rd Party candidates who are requesting the recount weren't going to be affected by who won, either way (IOW: Kerry ON the recount could've made a world of difference).

It's 15 Congressmen -- you can find the link under Dem Leadership and also see Media (today's Keith Olbermann blog link) here:

VOTE FRAUD LINKS - A DU Compendium - Thread #4
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=201&topic_id=6166&mesg_id=6166

VOTE FRAUD LINKS - A DU Compendium - Thread #3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x4927

VOTE FRAUD Links Compendium - Thread #2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x3223

VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#

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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:57 PM
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25. Note Sent
Dear Patrick:

Thank you very much for the coverage. The cause of the Ohio recount is getting very little media attention, and hearing about your piece is a great relief.

Sincerely,
Dave
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:59 PM
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26. welcome to DU davidlynch
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noclonyofthechimp Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:35 PM
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65. Are they going to cover it on the 6:00 or 11:00 news? I am in FL
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:06 AM
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28. Wow They finally did it!! It's about time. Get ready to duck
because the S**t's gonna hit the fan now!!
AND I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:08 AM
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29. This is very encouraging. Just what I needed before going to sleep.
CNN mentioned Ohio voting problems, Jesse Jackson's involvement and other issues tonight about alleged election fraud...It was by Carol Linn(sp?) Sunday Night, and I missed most of it because the phone interrupted. Did anyone else see this?
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:35 AM
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55. Was also on Headline News this evening too; fairly positive.
n/t
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:18 AM
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30. I thanked them, and said it would be a sin to certify Bush the winner
since it's obvious he won by cheating. "Thou Shalt Not Steal; Thou Shalt Not Lie." That should give the fundamental viewers something to think about!
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:27 AM
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34. The Ten Commandments
Beat the drums
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:20 AM
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31. thats extraordinary...
usually local news reports on this stuff because its in their backyard and its hard to ignore, but this is a Florida station reporting on Ohio... that’s great!
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:20 AM
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32. I wonder if the national ABC news picked this up. kick!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:25 AM
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33. My email to Mr. Taney
I'm really tired, but I think he'll get what I'm trying to say:

Dear Mr. Taney:

You will be receiving a lot of negative feedback for your election coverage as regards the recount and that the election results may not be as they first seemed on the night of November 2. Hopefully, positive feedback will be greater.

I want to thank you for your journalistic integrity and your courage in getting at the truth. For those who say they will stop watching you, remember that Keith Olbermann's ratings are up 128 percent since he began covering the tainted election with an eye to exposing the "irregularities." Believe me, the public is interested, if the information is given to them.

Thomas Jefferson wrote, "In a free country, every power is dangerous which is not bound up by general rules." Mr. Taney, in this election and its aftermath, there are those who have conducted themselves as if the rules do not apply to them, Mr. Blackwell being especially conspicuous. It is only the media which can alert the public en masse to those who have broken the rules.

Again, thank you.

Regards,
(Straight Shooter)

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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:32 AM
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36. good letter thanks
:)
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Farmgirl Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:54 AM
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38. Floridadem30 -- so far I'm not able to get the archived show
So, if you would please let us know when it might be up -- and, well do you know if it's possible to get a transcript of the show? Always nice to read through what was actually said, as it's easy to miss. My dial-up is kinda slow and often times loading up videos takes a long time and they often get interrupted.

Anyway, this is great, great news!

:thumbsup:
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:59 AM
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40. They haven't updated their site yet, but I will keep checking and post
when it becomes available.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:08 AM
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41. Wow! Cliff Arneback's and Jesse Jackson's stories are starting to take
off in the media! Long live our democracy!!
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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:12 AM
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42. That is excellent news, but...
it fills me with such longing... I can only hope and pray...
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:18 AM
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44. sounds like a great start clint! this is just incredible isnt it?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:46 AM
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58. I know just what you mean
They throw us a bone now and then. Kerry is nowhere to be seen.

We have to BEG for our votes and BEG the media to cover massive election fraud. This is obscene.
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americanwhothinks Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:27 AM
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61. carolab--
were you able to access this report? i haven't been able to, so i'm a little...worried that thank you's are being written-- if only one person has been able to actually see this story?

anyway, hoping you saw it-- and can you tell me how to access, as well?
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:12 AM
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43. Thanks, floridadem30.
I can't wait for the update. :hi:
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BlueTarheel Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:23 AM
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45. KTLA just reported it tonight
It's the WB here in LA 10 o'clock news:

"Speculation if * really won re-election."

Showed Jesse Jackson, Arnebeck, Conyers.

37K reports of irregularities they're looking into- fact checkers are reviewing it all.

Mentioned Arnebeck's lawsuit.

Treated it like a real news story- no mention of "conspiracy."

Although it dismissed the NC missing votes to a "clerical error" and didn't mention anything further about it.

But it's getting covered...



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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:36 AM
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46. You should post this info on a new thread. :)
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BlueTarheel Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:39 AM
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48. I thougth I was too new to
but I shall try-
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:39 AM
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47. thanks for letting us know. if you have a link by any chance
thats always great. i know it was a television news report but perhaps they have this on their website for those who didnt see it.

thanks and
welcome to du!
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:44 AM
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49. The website is listed above but it isn't updated yet because it was on
the 11:00 news tonight. I will post as soon as I get the video. There is a recording on the website but it is a TVPI file and I am still trying to find a program to open it.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:37 AM
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50. floridadem, i was posting to bluetarheel, asking for a possible link
in his post, he mentions there was a report out of california (i think on wb) similar to the one reported on here in this thread so i wanted to see how much information we could gather in this thread since its the same important topic

sorry for the mixup. i have seen the other posts above that were waiting on video from the abc 7 segment!

thanks
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:43 AM
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51. You guys noticed that, ah?
The different media reports are not labeling it a "conspiracy theory" anymore.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:53 AM
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52. Ok folks TAKE A BOW
Then give each other a pat on the back... and BACK TO WORK!
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:29 AM
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53. Since ABC tends to be Conservative, I'm QUITE impressed!
We're making progress! And I just put a note on another thread that CNN/Headline News covered it this evening, mentioned outstanding pending irregularities, mentioned J. Jackson said Kerry gave up too quick, and even showed footage of Kerry waving and smiling in New Hampshire recently, and talked about his donation to Washington governer recount. For CNN, I thought it was positive...in that they made NO attempt to dismiss the Fraud allegations, and irregularities.

Hang in there! :kick:
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:43 AM
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56. Thanks sent -- YAY!
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:00 AM
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59. am kick
.
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americanwhothinks Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:25 AM
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60. Truth is All, I have a question for you--
I have tried to access this information--

I am skeptical by nature, and particularly skeptical when gossip and rumors could sink this ship...

so i'm worried-- where is the ABC news report? I can't access it-- so I'm very worried that people are writing thank you's for reports they haven't actually seen?!

can we afford to take anyone's word-- when anyone could be anyone? does this report really exist?

i don't know you at all, but for some reason, (maybe that pic of your kid?) made me think you're the guy to ask--

should we believe ANYTHING until we can see it with our own eyes???
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:52 PM
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66. Same here - no access
Can't locate the article or video. Any tips?
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:58 PM
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67. I can't see the report either...would like to get a recent link. EOM
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:10 PM
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62. kick
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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:30 PM
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64. Lawsuit
Has anyone heard anything about Cliff Arnebeck, Counsel in Lawsuit Challenging Presidential Election in Ohio? Has the lawsuit been filed? What happening with this?
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americanwhothinks Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:00 PM
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69. Flordiadem, is the posting for the abc-7 news coverage available, yet?
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greatscott15 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:08 PM
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70. Link or Video
Yes it would be nice if someone had taped this so it could be posted. Are they any "news archival sites" that may do this? Guess I need to hit google and see what I can find.
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americanwhothinks Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:13 PM
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71. i sure hope floridadem answers, as it seems a bit reckless to ask people
to send emails to thank reporters for coverage they haven't actually seen!!

i mean, doesn't this seem a bit reckless-- given the possible consequences of such directives??
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:44 PM
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74. Hi greatscott15!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:14 PM
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72. Done with gusto!
Thanks.
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 03:50 PM
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73. KICK
Props to MSM

:kick:
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