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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 07:12 PM
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Full summary of VOTES SWAPPED BY MACHINES.
I actually posted this a week or two ago to Voting Issues, and I am regretting that now, because it went mostly unnoticed. So, so that everyone knows it has been done, I have already gone through EIRS and pulled all the "votes were changed" style of incidents out, and here they are.

There is stuff still to be done with EIRS, like finding the bias baseline, but before anyone invests the 5 hours or so it took me...


...original post:

I just spent an inordinate amount of time going through the 2000+ reports in the "Machine error" category in the EIRS database
(https://voteprotect.org/index.php?display=EIRMapNation&... )

The numbers really speak for themselves, not that that means I'm going to shut my big yap.

I was looking specifically for errors where individual voters saw their votes altered, or where a malfunction threatened to alter the votes of less cautious voters. (I skipped problems where entire machine tallies might have been affected, like power outages.) I found plenty of them. Keep in mind that I scanned ALL of the "Machine problems" reported (minus the ones in the database that are mis-filed under other categories.) While I may have made an occasional mistake here or there, I was especially keeping an eye out for ANY report that showed Republican votes being switched or invalidated. I found very few of those. So few in fact, it is a miracle. So, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

(NOTE: if a category ain't listed, no report existed.)

Part 1 Electoral Dysfunction (or, turning water into electors)



Number of EIRS reports for Florida, Broward County:

Kerry votes changed:
To Bush: 11 (038775,022524,041745,042578,046528,047099,055055,055066,055396,053430,044658)
To Unspecified: 5 (041979,042530,046762,055080,001096)
To Brown: 2 (046394,056831)
To Nader: 1 (047606)
To writein: 1 (055103)
Bush votes changed:
To Kerry: 1 (048034)
Undisclosed presidential vote changed to undervote: 1 (045860)
Castor votes changed to Martinez: 3 (031932,054994,038775)
Democrat vote changed to Republican, unknown seat: 1 (016735)
Votes were changed, but no other info: 13
(051452,036812,045403,045753,046690,047066,047979,048073,055065,055713,031932,053724,034703)

Number of EIRS reports for Florida, Miami-Dade County:

Kerry votes changed:
To Bush: 6 (043451,048269,058116,058213,058328,058329)
Undisclosed presidential votes changed:
To Bush: 1 (029974)
To undervote: 1 (058139)
To undisclosed: 1 (048439)
Undisclosed vote changed for commissioner seat: (058078)
Votes were changed, but no other info: 2 (001400,058208)


Number of EIRS reports for Florida, Palm Beach County:

Kerry votes changed:
To Bush: 12 (013490,017826,031377,039328,039396,052639,055458,055485,055637,055842,055860,055477,018569)
To undervote: 1 (055454)
Undisclosed presidential votes changed:
To Bush: 1 (021614)
To undervote: 3 (055577,055683,055692)
To undisclosed: 5 (022628,055602,056135,056139,041309)
Presidential undervotes changed:
To Kerry: 1 (043856)
Commissioner undervote changed to Republican: 1 (055537)
Ballot question votes changed:
From No to Yes: 1 (055558)
From Yes to No: 3 (055470,055996,055477)
From Yes to undervote: 1 (055963)
Undervotes changed, seat unknown: 2 (055585,055904)
Undisclosed votes changed to undervotes: 2 (055604,040870)
Votes were changed, but no other info: 3 (055901,055700,055994)

Number of EIRS reports for Florida, other counties:

Kerry votes changed to Bush:
West Palm Beach: 2 (055978,018901)
Lake: 1 (054924)
Pinellas: 1 (039531)
Kerry votes changed to Harris in Pasco County: 1 (018589)
Castor votes changed to Martinez in Hillsborough: 1 (033202)
Federal Senate votes changed from Democrat to Republican in Sarasota: 1 (013889)
Unknown seat vote changed from Democrat to Republican in Sarasota: 1 (033406)
Undisclosed presidential vote changed to Libertarian in West Palm Beach: 1 (055914)
Votes changed, but no other info, in Pinellas: 1 (041196)

Number of EIRS reports for Ohio, Mahoning County:

Kerry votes changed:
To Bush: 6 (035862,046968,047289,047376,052582,043115)
To undisclosed: 1 (046835)
Undisclosed presidential votes changed:
To undervote: 1 (041949)
To undisclosed: 2 (033154,035752)
Votes changed from Democrat to Republican, unknown seat: 1 (049986)
Votes changed, but no other info: 5 (032814,037504,038543,038605,042692)

Number of EIRS reports for Ohio, Franklin County:

Kerry votes changed to undervote: 1 (031061)
Undisclosed presidential votes changed to undervote: 4 (058810,033170,058641,058658)
Clancy vote changed to undervote: 1 (030307)

Number of EIRS reports for Ohio, other counties:

Kerry vote changed to Bush in Dayton: 1 (038287)
undisclosed presidential vote changed in Hamilton: 1 (058785)
undisclosed vote changed to undervote, unknown seat, Hamilton: 1 (054500)
Votes changed but no other info, Cuyahuga: 1 (040626)

Number of EIRS reports for Pennsylvania, Philadelphia:

Kerry votes changed to undervote: 2 (031931,031931)
Republican votes changed to Democrat, unknown seat: 1 (033761)
3rd party presidential votes changed to major party: 2 (041714,042259)
Democratic full ticket changed to Republican: 1 (041725)
Attempted split ticket changed to straight Democratic ticket: 1 (054594)
Undisclosed presidential vote changed:
To undervote: 2 (044723,034419)
To undisclosed: 1 (034249)
Undisclosed vote changed to undervote, unknown seat: 1 (054624)
Votes changed but no other info: 4 (031716,029262,049219,044822)

Number of EIRS reports for Pennsylvania, Mercer County:

Kerry vote changed to undervote: 1 (046290)
Undisclosed presidential vote changed to undervote: 1 (045447)
Undisclosed presidential vote changed to full ticket: 1 (038825)
Undisclosed votes changed to undervote: 3 (042848,046893,031283)
Votes changed, but no other info: 1 (038825)

Number of EIRS reports for Pennsylvania, Allegheney county:

Straight Democratic ticket changed to presidential undervote: 2 (033480,037924)
Straight Democratic ticket changed to multiple undervotes: 1 (030304)
Hoeffel vote changed to undervote: 1 (039712)

Number of EIRS reports for Pennsylvania, other counties:

Kerry vote changed to Bush in Delaware: 1 (040706)
Kerry vote changed to undervote in Delaware: 1 (031440)
Undisclosed Presidential vote changed, no other info, Montgomerey: 1 (048623)
Undisclosed vote changed to undervote in Montgomerey, seat unknown: 1 (032434,044381)

Number of EIRS reports for New Mexico, Bernalillo County:

Kerry votes changed:
to Perotka: 1 (035436)
to Badnarik: 3 (033853,042006,045322)
to undisclosed: 1 (035228)
Undisclosed presidential votes changed to undervote: 2 (035864,044706)
Straight Republican ticket changed to some Democrat votes, undisclosed seats: 1 (046108)
Undisclosed straight ticket changed to other straight ticket: 1 (047355)
Baca vote changed to Taylor: 1 (043662)
Wilson vote changed to Romero: 1 (043662)
Romero vote changed to Wilson: 1 (018132)
Undisclosed ballot question votes changed to undervote: 2 (036750,036946)
Democratic votes changed to Republican, unknown seat: 1 (047570)
Undisclosed votes changed to undervote, unknown seat: 1 (034353)
Undervote changed to Republican, unkwown seat: 1 (036563)
Votes changed but no other info: 8 (032895,042338,042703,043872,047522,047678,048599,049286)

Number of EIRS reports for New Mexico, other counties:

Votes changed, no other info, in Santa Fe: 3 (052341,052219,017395)
Votes changed, no other info, in Dona Ana: 1 (047596)
Undisclosed votes changed to Republican, unknown seat, Otero: 1 (014203)



Part 2 Counterfeit Mandate (or, the miracle of the loaves and votes)



Number of EIRS reports for Texas, Harris county:

Kerry votes changed to Bush: 2 (029306, 047873)
Democratic full ticket changed to Bush: 1 (046164)
Democratic full ticket changed to presidential undervote: 2 (036177,037826)
Democratic votes changed to Republican, seat unknown: 1 (047278)
Democratic votes changed to undervote, seat unknown: 1 (047683)
Votes changed but no other info: 2 (015642,049300)

Number of EIRS reports for Texas, Travis county:

Democratic full ticket changed to Bush:
8 (014216,014754,015252,028858,021981,018957,019315,015336)

Number of EIRS reports for Texas, other counties:

Kerry vote changed to Bush in Bear: 1 (018033)
Kerry vote changed to Bush in Tarrant: 1 (021308)
Democratic full ticket changed to Bush in Bexar: 1 (037893)
Democratic full ticket changed to Republican, congress, in Dallas: 2 (017246,017292)
Democratic votes changed to undervote, seat unknown, in Denton: 1 (040346)
Democratic votes changed to Republican, seat unknown:
in Denton: 1 (035155)
in Florida: 1 (038533)
not specified: 1 (035050)
Undisclosed presidential vote changed in Arlington: 1 (016079)
Votes changed, no other info:
in Bexar: 1 (033429)
not specified: 1 (043042)

Number of EIRS reports for Georgia, all counties:

Kerry votes changed to Bush: 4 (037481,037666,017705,049209)
Democratic full ticket changed to Bush: 1 (036180)
Democratic votes changed to Republican, seat unknown: 1 (043999)
Other votes changed: 3 (051167,057930,010309)

Number of EIRS reports for South Carolina, all counties:

Irregularities seem to damage Kerry/Democrats: 4 (038151,031359,049908,040147)

Number of EIRS reports for Virginia, Fairfax County:

Kerry votes switched to Bush: 2 (043610, 013536)

Number of EIRS reports for Illinois, Cook County:

Irregularities seem to favor Reublicans: 4 (048820,035414,048089,048368)

Number of EIRS reports for New York State:

Many machines stuck so they can only vote for one party -- Republican:
in Bronx: 5 (028481,030579,032390,028965,033077,029968)
in Kings: 4 (028456,028554,028715,030394)
Many machines would not allow Democrat to be voted under a 3rd party:
3 (029673,036265,029204)
Many machines were generating undervotes:
on Democrats: 8 (029919,037472,033002,048422,039075,033495,051331,034442)
on Greens: 1 (039120)
on undisclosed: 4 (028612,034872,040221,033516)



Part 3 The noise floor (or, the calmness of the sea)



Number of EIRS reports for irregularities in all other states that don't stand out:

Kerry votes changed:
to Bush: 5 (035481,026586,039275,024179,048010)
to undervote/overvote: 3 (029441,024055,025706)
to undisclosed: 2 (047757,039163)
to full Democratic ticket: 1 (026586)
Bush votes changed:
to Kerry: 1 (045200)
to undervote: 1 (047650)
Other types of presidential undervote: 4 (041871,040410,046324,042517)
Other votes changed to Republican: 5 (034506,053619,015928,048801,057769)
Other votes changed to Democrat: 1 (055744)
Other undervoting problems: 7 (051819,030334,041945,039850,035105,050620,050700)
Miscellaneous vote changing problems: 8 (039163,052224,046917,039433,049950,044481,044527,048470)



Even if we take all instances where the party of the stolen vote is unknown and attribute them to Republican votes being assigned to Democrats, that still doesn't make the figures any less miraculous. Are there any other possible explanations for this disparity?

1) Evangelicals have been told that 1-866 numbers and the "Internets" are tools of the devil, like unto exit pollers.
2) The EIRS operators were biased in their data collection. (Examination of another type of report, like complaints of people too close to polls, might tell us.)
3) The EIRS call-in number was more widely reported to Democrats. (This could be quantified.)
4) Election day media coverage (CNN) of Kerry votes flipping to Bush made Kerry voters more wary.
6) The actual odds of this aren't as great as they might appear, since computer errors are often systematic.
(Seeing whether ballot order and machine type varied widely among locations with similar reports would indicate.)
7) Errors harming Kerry were overreported because these machines were in precincts where lots of people voted for Kerry.
(Well, Sherlock, WHY were the problem machines in highly Democratic precincts? Isn't that a miracle in and of itself?)
8) The HAND of GOD ALMIGHTY HATH DECENDETH from ON HIGH to smiteth MINE ENEMY in answer to our PRAYERS FOR HOLY RETRIBUTION!!!


(P.S. a couple humorous EIRS entries: 038775 I didn't know Fidel was running?!? 029974 Stealing votes from the blind? For shame, Dubya!)

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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 07:40 PM
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1. Great wrap-up. Thanks. Kick!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:22 PM
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2. Kick for more !
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ignatzmouse Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:25 PM
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3. Great incident summary
Excellent work! Thanks for putting in the time to compile this!
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:59 PM
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4. A compliment from you makes it all worth it :-) n/t
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:00 AM
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8. Ditto
and a :kick:
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:46 PM
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5. Thank you. Kick!
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:50 PM
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6. Great Work!!
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:44 PM
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7. Great work - Pass it on to the Kerry Campaign
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:04 PM
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9. excellent post.
Im forwarding this one.Thank You.:thumbsup: :dem: :hug:
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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:08 PM
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Me stupid cave man
this went right over my head and Pasco county is where I live and it is listed on this summary what does this mean exactly.

Me waiting for reply?????
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:56 AM
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16. How to read it.

Pasco only had one report of votes being switched:

Kerry votes changed to Harris in Pasco County: 1 (018589)

The six digit number is the number of the report in the EIRS database. You don't need it unless you want to go read the report.

Basically in Pasco, 1 user saw the machine try to change her vote from Kerry to Harris.

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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:08 PM
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10. Thank you skids!!!
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:11 PM
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11. Great work hope to see it on CSPAN Kick n/t j-g
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:58 AM
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17. Not without a baseline.

Unless we find a way to show that is is not because "Democrats just complain more" it isn't viable for MSM.

The data to show that it probably in the database somewhere, but I haven't had time to do so.
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:16 PM
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12. Check my new thread for details about Cuyahoga County
You listed:

Votes changed but no other info, Cuyahuga: 1 (040626)



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x123586
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Hamoth Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:19 PM
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13. What about the big "errors" found?
You know, machines that count backwards, that overcount 2,000 votes for Bush, and things like that! Ohio keeps saying that all these errors have been found and recitified...if so, where are these logged for public view?

Is it possible to get official county numbers on voting machine problems, tabulation problems (not included here), and other types of machine failures?

If we can get an official governmental source for problem reports and tabulation problems...we can eliminate a lot of variables.

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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:50 AM
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14. kick to help TIA's new article, and an answer.

I didn't look for those. These are JUST the ones where voters complained about single votes being swapped.

There are lots of other types of errors it would be interesting if someone would to the same for. Like, how many power outages were there at the polls this year, and where?

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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:54 AM
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15. Thanks for doing this!
Great job!
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