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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:00 PM
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Moter voter question
Is the DOT connected to DMV's? I ask cuz today I found stuff from Texas and California that had people who thought that they had registered to vote thru their DMV NOT actually get registered to vote cuz their paperwork got "lost" or misdirected. They show up on Nov 2nd and find out they didn't get registered and they are shit out of luck usually.
Specifically I am thinking about Motor Voter and if any of these thugs' companies had a contract with a state's DOT, did they have access to Motor Voter/driver license lists that would tell them people's races, etc...
I know, tinfoil hat, but it just got me to wondering. Here are some links I've looked at and my posts from today:

Kinda troubling to hear that the department that handles HALF of our state's voter registrations is LOSING them instead of processing them! Wonder how people who were told that they were not in the system when they showed up Nov 2nd have these fools to thank??

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/state/10055990...


Registrations missing in motor-voter system


Some Texans who thought they registered to vote through the Department of Public Safety have suffered an unpleasant surprise when they showed up to cast their ballots.

In at least a half-dozen cases -- including some in Johnson County -- voters discovered that they couldn't cast ballots or that their vote likely wouldn't count. The problem? Voter registration forms supposedly handled by DPS somehow never made it to county election officials. Who's to blame remains a mystery. But it has already caused headaches during early balloting and could become a wider problem during general voting Tuesday.

Through the state's motor-voter law, adopted in 1992, DPS employees offer registration forms to motorists when they renew their driver's licenses. The DPS handles about half the voter registrations processed in Texas, according to officials.


Things that make you go hmmmm....


http://www.newspress.com/election2004/expectation102804...

SACRAMENTO - In April, thousands of electronic voting machines were decertified. By July, the secretary of state stumbled into deepening scandals. Now, days before voting, the Department of Motor Vehicles has found more than 300 unsent voter registrations at state headquarters - and apologized.

Among them, the DMV discovered last week that it misplaced 309 voter registration forms handled through the department's "motor voter" program. Spokesman Bill Branch said Wednesday the registrations, some dating as far back as May, were mistakenly sent to state headquarters with records to be microfilmed and sat unnoticed.

"The inadvertent misrouting should not have happened," Mr. Branch said. "DMV apologizes for any inconvenience to those 309 voters." Mr. Branch and state elections officials said the registrations are valid and were immediately sent to their counties of origin across the state. But most will probably have to cast provisional ballots Tuesday, a special procedure that holds the ballot registration can be verified after the election.


http://www.votersunite.org/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=150&topic_id=2&mesg_id=2



Mesg #2 "Motor Voter registrations are not working in Texas"
Author Crispin

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Date Wed Nov-10-04 03:40 PM
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I am seeking reports of voters who thought they were registered when they signed up at the DMV but who were not registered when they came to vote. If you have such reports please email me:

crispin_reedy AT yahoo dot com

Please use the following format:

Function: (Judge, Pollwatcher, Citizen,) etc,
Location: Precinct 123456, (County Name) County
Full Name, Phone Number, Email Address
Story:

I had two or three people tell me that they had registered by checking the box on their driver's license application when they moved. These people showed driver's licenses that indicated their homes were within the geographic area of the precinct. They were not on the voter rolls for the precinct, nor were they on the data CD-ROM provided by the Elections office, nor were they in the computer when I called the main office. I told them that they could vote provisionally and they did so.






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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:03 AM
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1. It's not tinfoil hat at all -- it's been a concern
because of "anomalies" and in fact, I think it's been a concern even from FL 2000.

It's also another reason I'm against the HAVA-mandated state-wide computerized lists. We saw what happened to ONE computerized list (FL) with its felon-purge (which I don't think has been fully corrected yet from 2000).


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