Remember: When Bush is taken down via fraud, THE MEDIA IS TO BLAME

[jsamuel]

When Bush is forced out of the presidency because of voter fraud, we must shout that this whole problem started with the media's refusal to say when something was flat out wrong or untruthful. They treated every statement like an opinion that they were just reporting someone else said. It is their fault for not covering this too.

The blood of our wounded democracy is not only on the hands of those who perpetrated the fraud...

[New Earth]

1. It's also partially the media's fault that there are not more people

protesting the election, or at least questioning. As Cliff Arnebeck has said more than once, it is their responsibility to present the truth to the pubic. Even if fraud has not yet been proven, the election outcome is highly questionable and they should have covered it regardless.

[saracat]

3. Not to be argumentative, as I believe there was fraud, but why

would the media cover this without concrete facts? They never covered election 1960 and that was stolen. And as far as 2000 goes, they never corrected or even gave equal time to anything that pointed to a Gore win.

[Warpy]

5. 1960 was not a stolen election

Nixon decided not to pursue allegations of massive fraud in Chicago (which there undoubtedly was) because the electoral collge numbers would have defeated him even if he'd taken Illinois.

Unless you think an election won by electoral college majoity is a stolen election, you're not on solid ground with that one.

[saracat]

8. I would have to research that a bit more but I know Nixon

didn't pursue fraud allegations because he didn't dare expose himself in California! He then played hero so as ( sound familiar? not to divide the nation)

[jsamuel]

12. I am not just talking about fraud here. I am talking about Abu Grahb...

WMD's, Iraq, Saddam, Outsourcing, Osama, Afganistan, and all of the obviously indefensable positions this admin has had and the media let them off without pointing out the horrible wrongs that were done.

[saracat]

15. Absolutely correct.

[Greybnk48]

17. they haven't relied on facts in the past

As Clinton said to Peter Jennings, the media ran with and magnified every rumor and inuendo that Starr put out about him--and that was to bring down a president.

[anamandujano]

18. That' s right!

Fact checking is only for the repuke scandals and then only under duress.

[Unforgiven]

2. Don't Blame

Free Speech Radio News or Democracy Now, Thay have been bitching about this for four years.

[LiberalAndProud]

4. It is their fault

my husband wouldn't let me go to Ohio.

Pointless, he said.

[LosinIt]

6. Won't 'let' you go to Ohio?? has he got you tied up??

Or does he reign with intimidation? Sorry, just the way you said that, brought to mind the 1950s.

[LiberalAndProud]

11. Not that so much ...

What about your other responsibilities? (of which I have many). Big yell fest. 13 hours one way!?????! etc.

[rucky]

7. I will never trust broadcast media again. Ever. n/t

[trudyco]

9. I want to bring them down, too

They are all in collusion. Once we get the Dems back in we should kick FOX off for being a foreign company and getting our country's public airways. Then we should pass laws, or a national amendment, to split these companies up. Roll back the Reagan gutting of the -er Fairness law?? whatever it was called. Limit the most a company can own of the media market in an area, and cage in the militaryindustrial complex. THey shouldn't be allowed to dabble in media at all. Then we need to look into AP.

So much festering the last 30 plus years and the democrats have been so ineffective.

time to go to bed,
trudyco

[Karenca]

13. 100 % agree, Trudyco

We MUST enforce major changes to the the news media.
As of now, we have no reliable news sources (except for Olbermann, and the once in a while when we get thrown a crumb from another station).
What we receive now, basically, is propaganda---nothing more and nothing less.

[malatesta1137]

10. the media is an important part of the fraud

it's been since 2000 and nothing happened, nothing WILL happen this time either, because Americans are getting stupider by the minute.

[Clark2008]

14. And the media is part of the reason

they are getting more and more stupid by the minute...

[s-cubed]

16. The media publish all kinds of stories without having hard evidence,

they just say "sources" or published in "rag paper", or the internet is buzzing about, etc. They are scarred shitless to touch this story. My letter to Wa Po today:

Pat Tillman's death in Afghanistan was a tragedy, and the "distorted and incomplete narrative" provided by the US military was a disgrace. An even bigger disgrace is your failure to investigate thoroughly the mockery of democracy exhibited in Election 2004. The few published articles have been directly from AP: clearly no independent investigation. If you had, your headlines would not be about Pat Tillman, nor about Ukrainian election fraud, but about election fraud in the US.
If you are so certain that fraud did not occur, send a reporter to the Common Cause meeting on "Voting in 2004: A Report to the Nation". The event will take place on December 7th in room G50 in the Dirksen Senate Office Building from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. The following day, go to the forum called by Rep. Conyers and others, at 10:00 am in room 2237 of the Rayburn Office Building, which will lay out a compelling case for fraud in Ohio, and elsewhere.
The paper that brought us Watergate can't be bothered to report Votergate, which is an even bigger and more important story.


Of course they'll never publish it, but I like to keep tweaking them.

[lostnfound]

19. I'm stunned at the optimism.

I really wish I had it. I am actively working on the issue, and talking to everyone I know, pushing their tolerance level to the limit, but I don't have much hope.. The amount of cra* that has been swept under the carpet is remarkable. How can I hope that this would be any different?

[Kellis]

20. Yes

The media should be ashamed of themselves!They are our servants and are asleep at the wheel.
They have allowed this country to go unaware of SO MANY monumental events and occurences without so much as a blip on the radar screen.It is outrageous the way they are handling the news these days!

Now I see the talking heads on TV are rounded out not just with liars from the right acting like "its all ok-nothing to see here folks MOVE ON!" but with religious people??With Reverends and evangelicals!!!????


WHat the FUCK has America come to that we are now seeing Evangelicals as Hosts of regular MEDIA shows!????

IT IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!