New York Times

[dogindia]

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/07/national/07ohio.html?oref=login

[indy_azcat]

1. As Questions Keep Coming, Ohio Certifies Its Vote Count

For those w/o registrations:

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WASHINGTON, Dec. 6 - The Ohio secretary of state officially certified on Monday that President Bush won that swing state by roughly 119,000 votes, but an array of Democrats, third-party candidates and independent groups continued to question the results, issuing new demands for a statewide recount and a formal investigation of the vote.

Even before Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican, issued the final tally, the Democratic National Committee said it would appoint an expert panel to review voting problems in Ohio - including long lines, voting machine errors and understaffed polling stations - that it said had disenfranchised voters in predominantly Democratic urban districts.

Democratic officials, walking a fine line between their angry liberal base and centrist voters who consider the election over, said they were not contesting the results. But they said they planned to use the results of their investigation, which is to be completed by the summer, to demand changes to the electoral systems in Ohio and other states.

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Summer?


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The final vote count showed that the margin had shrunk to 118,775 votes, or 2 percent of the total, after absentee and provisional ballots were tabulated and some Election Day counting errors were corrected, according to the certified results released by Mr. Blackwell on Monday
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Under Ohio law, the recount must begin within 10 days of the formal request and groups calling for a recount have to pay for part of the cost.

Ohio's presidential electors are scheduled to meet next Monday to cast their votes for Mr. Bush, though it is virtually certain that the challenges and recounts will not be completed by then.

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[DoYouEverWonder]

3. I wonder if anyone is going to try to get a court order

to stop Ohio's electors from meeting on Monday? Under the circumstances and especially considering Blackwell's actions and conflicts of interest, maybe it's time to get the courts to intervene?

[truehawk]

7. Controversies have to be settled before the electors can be chosen

However unless someone gets off their ass and says that the result of the election may change, there is NO Controversy and time is NOT of the essence. Recounts in Ohio have taken 6 weeks.

[bones_7672]

4. Doesn't the article also say they'll be done in the spring

with the investigation? Seems like they have no plans on stopping the electors or inaugaration.

[PATRICK]

9. If we hadn't raised a fuss

would the DNC have done ANYTHING? They did a weak-kneed study last time about widespread discrepancies and fraud and then proceed to weakly let the GOP game phony baloney "reform".

Is our party full of GOP infiltrators on the top or what? That is one investigation I would like to see, not this Johny come lately going through the motions- with apologies and bowing to King Fraud.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Good morning, and welcome to DU, dogindia.

Thanks for the heads-up on The Times.

[dogindia]

5. TY. notice no mention of Conyers hearing

Guess they can only do so much. I sent all the nyt news people the letter and follow up letters. The lack of MSM coverage is outrageous.

[clutchcargo]

11. caps lock

Sorry about the caps lock thing--It drives my kids nuts also---I am not sure i get the guarding bridges thing --But then I am probably a little slow

[clutchcargo]

6. FALSE HOPE

I SO MUCH WISH THAT WE COULD SOMEHOW CHANGE WHAT HAS HAPPENED BUT WITH THIS VOTE CERTIFIED AND OUR OWN NATIONAL PARTY SAYING THE ELECTION IS OVER I JUST THINK THIS IS FALSE HOPE MY WIFE HAS READ SOME OF MINE AND OTHERS POST AND THINKS THAT THIS IS THERAPY FOR US --SORT OF LIKE MICHAEL MOORE STAYING IN BED FOR THREE DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION ----I FEEL I SHOULD BE WEARING BLACK

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. You don't have to shout

Please turn off the caps lock. Thanks.

BTW: Welcome to DU :hi:

[mattclearing]

10. I feel you should be guarding bridges.

Bye bye...

[DancingBear]

13. Say hello to Spinner and Paddlefoot on your way out

Bye, now.

[tngledwebb]

12. Good old nyt lib bias in action.

Burying a top story, then spinning it into oblivion. But it's not going away.

[IndyOp]

14. It is good that it has hit the NYT...

This is a huge improvement over the first article in the NYT - "Conspiracy theories inspired by blogs are quickly buried" - that one ticked me off BIG time.

I am relieved to hear that Blackwell certified yesterday and I am ANXIOUS for Arnebeck to get to court -- I am pretty sure he is taking the Kerry/Connally discrepancy argument with him <http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/944> and according to one article I read he will present the case to one member of the Ohio Supreme Court who will rule. If needed he can appeal to the entire Ohio Supreme Court.

I can wait as long as is necessary - more interested in a just resolution than in a quick one - nonetheless this kinda hurts.

:hurts: