Update from Denmark.

[Helga Scow Stern]

posted for Bo

UPDATE from Denmark


Dear DU'ers

I'm not yet at a posting level where I can post anything but replies. So I'll post my updates here.

The Clinton Curtis affidavit story is frontpage news in Denmark. I wrote a story on the affidavit for Ekstra Bladet, which basicly summed up what Curtis have declared.

The article was picked up by the danish wire service Ritzau and ran on national radio this morning.

I have had readers calling in today, asking if the story about the affidavit was true and asking if I had anything planned for tomorrow.

Well. I have. Today I interviewed Cliff Arnebeck from Ohio. I'll be writing about Arnebeck and the Ohio filing for tomorrow.

He comes through as very straight and precise, but there were issues from other states that he simply hadn't heard about. It's deeply concerning to sit in Denmark and inform attorneys from Ohio about relevant and important events in Florida.

Yes, blame the media.

This may change, though. I believe he told me, that he had been interviewed by someone from danish radio, but also from NY Times and Washington Post. He assured me that US main stream media is picking up on the story.

Please: Keep on mailing me.

I'll post updates as I move along.

Yours

Bo Elkjaer, Denmark

[Razorback_Democrat]

1. Kick!

thanks Ojai!

yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[liam97]

3. What newspaper

does he work for? It would be great to post the links to the front page stories in Denmark and email them to Ko

[Helga Scow Stern]

6. Ekstra Bladet

Probably in Danish. Bo listed the stories that came out in that publication in one of the other 2 threads w/ Danish Reporter in the title.

[texpatriot2004]

18. Is there a link for the paper?

[SaveAmerica]

23. http://www.ekstrabladet.dk/

I'm getting a message that I can't access the site, guess too many are trying.

[ohio_liberal]

31. Try this link

Goes right to the home page (I think!)

http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.sasp?TemplateID=1

[thanatonautos]

85. http://www.ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=272488

This is the artikel!

Too bad my Danish is pretty weak.
But I bet I recognize these words.

Programmør svindlede valget for Bush :)

[RubyDuby in GA]

2. "US main stream media is picking up on the story."

Raised in GA, but born in Missouri, the Show Me State.

Pardon me, but you'll have to show me this to make me believe it. They've been sleeping soundly for the past 4 years, why wake up now?


On edit: Oh how I hope you are right!!!!

[Straight Shooter]

4. The Clinton Curtis story is frontpage news in Denmark

Link?

I know the Danes tend to really be on top of things (remember they ran that Ali Baba Iraqi humiliation photo), but a link would be nice.

Thanks, Ojai.

From the mouth of Danes to Gawd's ear.

[Helga Scow Stern]

8. Ekstra Bladet

I don't have the link. Could you perhaps find it? :)

[Karenca]

10. Front page in Denmark?---yet barely not a morsel of news here--

We're living in the Umited States of Ignorance.
How fucked up is this?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

13. Blame our Corporate-controlled media

and our corporate-controlled government

[HeeBGBz]

5. Hi Bo I saw your first post

I lost track of the thread and was curious what you found.

Do you have a link to your local articles?

[Eloriel]

7. In Arnebeck's defense

it's tough to be aware of everything going on AND handle the publicity WHILE filing a major lawsuit.

I spend almost all my available awake hours right here at DU just trying to keep abreast of things going on, there's no way I could handle the fulltime job of being THE attorney on this case along with that.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

16. Exactly right

Arnebeck's efforts and responsibilities pertain to the Ohio issues. While the Ohio fraud techniques were probably the same ones used in Florida and many other states, only the ones in Ohio pertain to his case.

[Danish Reporter]

28. Exactly!

Thats what the media are for.

I didn't intend to point any critique at Arnebeck. It's not his job to follow meticulously every vote-related issue all over the US. It shouldn't be.

Honestly, I'm amazed at how little coverage this is getting in the US. However speculative and circumstantual things might still be, they should be covered in depth, as we have seen with Ukraine.

The paper I work for, Ekstra Bladet, has the second largest circulation in Denmark. You can find the website at www.ekstrabladet.dk. We're tabloid, but not the kind of tabloid you see in the US. As told before, I was awarded the danish equivalent of the Pulitzer, the Cavling, for my work on the Iraq war.

Unfortunately, the paper version is no longer published in full on the site, so I can't link to the article.

Yours

[Name removed]

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[Karenca]

11. What's odd? nt

[Razorback_Democrat]

12. what is?

Arneback not knowing of what is happening in other places?

Or that the MSM is getting ready to cover it?

or what?

[Name removed]

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[Razorback_Democrat]

46. Interesting n/t

[Helga Scow Stern]

19. Odd that it's taken so long for MSM to report the truth!

And certainly bad news for TeamStealAmerica! :hi:

[Helga Scow Stern]

14. Danish Reporter's other threads:

DR To Interview International Monitors
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=105576&mesg_id=105576

DR Needs the Goods
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=99274

[liam97]

20. I couldn't find anything

on the newspaper site

[texpatriot2004]

17. I do not have the words to express my gratitude to you

for the work that you are doing on this matter. Thank you so much.I will now be reading another international paper for my news.

PS - Arnebeck is great.

[Angry Girl]

Thank you, Mr. Elkjaer!

[ohio_liberal]

21. Is this the newspaper?

http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.sasp?TemplateID=1

[myschkin]

22. Not the last of the mohicans...

The last of the journalists...

By the way, what kind of newspaper is it? Boulevard, NYT-like, regional? Big, small, mainplayer?

[Helga Scow Stern]

26. Tabloid, he said, but respected.

He says something about it in one of his other posts, links to which are listed above.

[KaryninMiami]

24. Suggestions for additional international coverage?

Hi Bo-
This is wonderful news! Thank you so much for all of your efforts!

I'm wondering if you have any suggestions on how we can get this story picked up in other international markets? Since we appear to be in lock-down here (or what does get out is incorrect or not complete), my hope is that more international journalists like yourself will be interested in covering it. After all, this is, as you now know, a HUGE STORY. Perhaps under pressure from international media (who are not owned by the same corporations as our mainstream media- at least not most of them anyway)- our media will have no choice but to jump on board.

Here in Florida we had lots of international media here covering the weeks prior to and the week of the election (including a film crew from Denmark. Now we need them to come back over or to get involved again...

Any suggestions that you might have, or any contacts in other regions that we can connect with would be great.

Please be sure to post the link to the story when you can. Even though it's in Danish- it would be great to see!


Thank you again!!!

[myschkin]

60. international lock-down

Karyn, I wrote an article/essay in german and an austrian serious newspaper is interested to print it... But there is also a kind of "block" here in the german speaking room. Maybe it's too "hot" for them, or they are sleepy and unaware of what's going on. I wrote an email with article + facts to all german speaking newspapers (Austria, Switzerland, Germany) - so they can't say they don't know anything.

Olbermann called it "intellectual lazyness"...

Please look at my other posts at your thread about media coverage.

By

M.


PS: Please note that there is also a difference between tabloids/boulevard and high standard journals. The laster are much more critical...

[pbartch]

99. Yes......how to get the story printed into FRENCH, GERMAN,

GREAT BRITAIN AND CANADA newspapers and on television. MEXICO AND SOUTH AMERICA WOULD BE GREAT TOO.

[Broken Acorn]

25. I think that this guy might be a fraud

Here is the online version of the Politiken (from Cophenhagen), one Denmark's largest newspaper.

http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=1

As you can see, there are no stories about US Election Fraud/Curtis. Nor is it front page news like he claims.

I'm sorry everyone, but we can't put blind faith in this stuff. We need to focus on real evidence, like Arneock's (sp) claim of real fraud and his upcoming legal challenge to Ohio tomorrow.

I got flamed yesterday by saying that I 'think' that Curtis's affidavit is a fraud and that if it was legit, AAR & KO would be all over this. Unfortunately, it looks like I am correct :(

This Danish 'reporter' also seems like a hoax as well. It is just too easy sometimes to dupe people when they are looking for any kind of hope without using any reasoning.

(Let the flaming begin)

[Helga Scow Stern]

27. Questioning is always welcome!

Just because it's not listed in the MSM paper of Denmark doesn't mean it's not news. He said his paper was a tabloid. Look at other stories listed in the above threads.

He's also not saying he believes the affadavit story--just that people in DK are fascinated by it.

[SaveAmerica]

29. English version not even close to original

in amount of articles. The front page of the Danish language version is full of articles, this has maybe 6. I don't think that proves the guy's a fraud.

[Broken Acorn]

30. Maybe

he's not a fraud, but he probably is. Why hasn't he given a link to his newspaper, tabloid? Why hasn't he at least told us which publications are putting it on the front pages?

Just good questions that need answers. If it is true, I want to run with this stuff just like everyone else. I just think everyone is getting carried away with all the red herrings we are seeing.

[ohio_liberal]

33. Here's the link to the wire service

I can't read it, maybe someone else can:

http://www.ritzau.dk/ritzauweb.nsf/all/index.htm

[Helga Scow Stern]

32. I emailed Bo and asked him to provide a link.

Even if it's in Danish, we could recognize words like "Arnebeck".

[bloom]

35. I would enjoy seeing a Danish version

Thanks for posting these threads.

[EMunster]

34. is there anyone you don't call a fraud? Or is that that your only thought

on anything?

[Helga Scow Stern]

37. Broken Acorn has good posts and skepticism is always welcome. n/t

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[SomthingsGotaGive]

92. we all have important roles here on DU..

His is one of them.

[Danish Reporter]

36. No hoax, I'm afraid

The article about Clinton Curtis affidavit is on the frontpage of the paper version of Ekstra Bladet, which I write for.

This () is a photo from the Cavling ceremony this january. I'm the guy with the glasses and the statue. The photo was taken seconds after I presented prime minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen with a copy of the whitepaper "loegnen om krigen - krigen om loegnen", which is a comdemning accusation of the danish government.

Actually he wrote my paper and practically demanded that they'd sack me for writing about Iraq. They didn't. You can see the whitepaper, which I was awarded for, in his hand.

Two colleagues from the competing paper Information were awarded for their coverage of the Iraq war. You can find more info via Google.

You shouldn't put blind faith in anything and I commend your scepticism. And yes: Concentrate on facts and evidence. So do I.

Yours

[bloom]

38. What is the title of the article?

[Danish Reporter]

42. Title of article

Dear DU'ers

The title of my article was 'Programmer claims: Was tasked by republican congressman to fraud the election for Bush'

The article describes the affidavit.

This is a link to an early version of the danish national radio news. The Clinton Curtis report is first. Probably the danish will give you a good laugh. We all sound like swedish chef's.
http://www.dr.dk/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/asx/uge/tirsdag/0400.asx

Yours

[Branjor]

53. Yes....

I certainly don't speak Danish but I heard "Florida", "Clinton Curtis" and "computer scammers".

[rdmccur]

54. Caught some names by listening

like George Bush, Curtis, and John Kerry. And a Danish word sounding like the English "fraud" was used as well. So it's at least evident that this part of the newscast was about the Curtis affadavit and its relevance to the case for election fraud.

[Alizaryn]

57. Thank you Bo, let us know what other info you would like us to

continue to send you.

[Helga Scow Stern]

39. May your reporting on the US election fraud bring you another Cavling...

or a Nobel Prize, or at the very least,

help save our democracy.

[Straight Shooter]

41. When will it be on web site version? Can you scan paper version and post?

Hello, Great Dane :)

Can you scan the image of the paper version and post it here? You will need to set up an account at http://www.photobucket.com is one place to store images. Olaf will help you, I'm sure (sorry to volunteer you, Olaf!)

What is that necklace symbol you're wearing? I'm intrigued.

Thanks for helping the cause.

[SomthingsGotaGive]

94. Hello

Just a quick question.

What about Curtis' unsubstantiated claim that his dog was shot after the affidavit was given.

Bradblog was the one that reported it.

He appeared here but when asked to prove it his reply was rather shocking.

He told a DU'er that a police report had been filled and if the member didn't believe him he should check it out HIMSELF.

WTF?

If Brad later retracts having been told by Curtis the dog had been shot does the story take a hit considering he broke it?

If Brad sticks to the story and doesn't prove it how can anyone serious accept ANY of this.

WHY EVEN MENTION IT WITHOUT PROVING IT.

The story stinks.

[Razorback_Democrat]

44. You seem to like to be flamed

But Ojai is just forwarding an e-mail

the paper the reporter works for isn't the one you've linked

you just call people frauds without evidence?

[IAMREALITY]

49. Razorback,

Lest not forget that there are always those that walk amongst us who will always see the negative side of things outright as default reaction.

Remember, there are risks involved with having faith in certain things. To take a risk you need to have strength. Some people just simply don't have any strength, and therefore can only resort to dismissal. Dismissal is a safe zone for the weak, as no real risk is necessary.

As a disclaimer, dismissal is different from proceeding with caution. Outright dismissal without rational arguments to persuasively back it up is usually just as stated, a sign of weakness and desire of simplicity.

[Razorback_Democrat]

51. And then there is that!

I'm just having a hard time with people who post just to flame on here

maybe we need a board for fraud?

[Broken Acorn]

61. STILL WAITING FOR FRONT PAGE DANNISH COVERAGE

Our Dannish reporter clearly states at the top of the thread that it was on the FRONT PAGE of newspapers in Denmark.

Call 1 person prove this to be true? It shouldn't be too hard, but I am getting flamed for bringing this up.

[SomthingsGotaGive]

98. Hello

I can't answer your question and Nobody has taken a crack at mine either so how about we have our own reality based discussion of this subject...here is my question again....

Just a quick question.

What about Curtis' unsubstantiated claim that his dog was shot after the affidavit was given.

Bradblog was the one that reported it.

He appeared here but when asked to prove it his reply was rather shocking.

He told a DU'er that a police report had been filled and if the member didn't believe him he should check it out HIMSELF.

WTF?

If Brad later retracts having been told by Curtis the dog had been shot does the story take a hit considering he broke it?

If Brad sticks to the story and doesn't prove it how can anyone serious accept ANY of this.

WHY EVEN MENTION IT WITHOUT PROVING IT.

The story stinks

[Verve]

40. Thank you Bo!!!!

:yourock:

[Broken Acorn]

43. Dannish Reporter

Please provide a link or ANY names of Dannish newspapers that has this story on their front page.

My friend lives in Odense and I just IM'd him now. He says he did not hear anything about this today (it is after 6pm there now).

If you are real, please respond to my skepticism. I just am tired of frauds here in DU bringing people false hope and throwing smoke screens.

[ohio_liberal]

45. He just gave a link to a radio news program

Maybe you can have your friend translate it?

http://www.dr.dk/pubs/nyheder/html/nyheder/asx/uge/tirsdag/0400.asx

[Last Lemming]

47. You've been had

KRove scores again. Madsen gets taken because he "outed" Rove
and Freeley because he voted against the medicare bill. . .one's a dupe and the other has a (perhaps single) scruple. It would be funny except that an innocent man is being set up. . .

Come on, guys. Surely you can see this as a transparent ploy. WaPo and NYT won't go near this. . .

You think you are saving democracy but at this point you are only making life hell for an innocent man. Freeley has done nothing to deserve this. . .

Don't play this game.

[BlueDog2u]

50. By innocent man, I presume you are talking about Tom Feeney?

If so, your defense would be a bit more credible if learned how to spell his name correctly. Just what makes you so convinced that Feeney is "Mr. Innocent?" He strikes me as just the sort of man who would do exactly what Curtis claims he did.

[Last Lemming]

52. How come?

[Alizaryn]

56. What reason do you see for Curtis to risk

a libel lawsuit, perjury charges and allowing the world to examine and pick through his claims? Have you seriously stopped and looked at them and spent the time to examine what facts you could?

I am curious to know what you feel he can get out of this that could out weigh the risks his is taking. Let us know will ya?

[BlueDog2u]

77. Well, try googling him and see what you find.

For starters, he was the hit man in the Florida GOP's plan to appoint Repub electors for the state in 2000 even if the vote went against them. That doesn't suggest someone whose loyalties lie with accurately counting all the votes, does it?

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[Broken Acorn]

58. Penguin

just because I think the affidavit is a fraud doesn't mean I'm an operative, lmao.

There is NO information on this anywhere besides Brad's Blog/Raw Story (or it's cohort Blulamur).

If everyone took a step back an focused on the real issues of voter fruad they'd realize that this probably, if not likely, bogus.

Let's see, this came out 2 years ago, but nothing came of it. Don't you think Randi Rhodes or KO would be all over this yesterday if it was legit? I do, and look forward to hearing somethhing (but not getting my hopes up).

Also, we have this 'Dannish Reporter' claiming that it was all over the front pages in Denmark today, but he could only give us a stream to some Dannish radio.

STOP calling me an operative. I was saying the same thing about the fake Madsen $29 million dollar check. If you disagree with my opinion, fine.

But refute my argument with facts, not insults.

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[ElementaryPenguin]

64. Broken, you never find merit in ANY GOP fraud allegation.

:shrug:

[Broken Acorn]

65. Please respond to Post #61 Penguin

Nobody can bring evidence of this claim.

[Name removed]

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[Broken Acorn]

67. Please respond to Post #61

It is unfortunately sad that I get flamed for speaking the truth. And very funny how people personally attack me, but don't answer my original question.

Which newspapers had this story on their front page in Denmark today? It is a very straightforward question. Yet everyone became silent when I continued my search.

[ohio_liberal]

69. The original post says very clearly

That the story on the affadavit was written for Ekstra Bladet and picked up by the danish wire service Ritzau and ran on national radio this morning. The reporter also says in post 28 "Unfortunately, the paper version is no longer published in full on the site, so I can't link to the article."

Edited to add:

Nowhere in the original post does it say that this story is running "all over the front pages" of newspapers in Denmark. It simply says "Front page news".

[Broken Acorn]

73. Follow up to opening thread

Yes, Ohio, you are correct and I understand what it states.

But, here is what he also says at the top of the post:

"The Clinton Curtis affidavit story is frontpage news in Denmark."

If this is true, what newspaper?

I have a friend who lives in Odense (about 30 minutes from Copenhagen) that could verify this if true.

But nobody can give me a name of the paper where it was front page news, even if the online version doesn't show it (skeptical blinders on again).

[ohio_liberal]

74. Um, gee, I dunno

Maybe Ekstra Bladet? :shrug:

[ElementaryPenguin]

70. Explain why we heard it on Danish radio - at the top of their news!!!!

Is that not unique onto itself?

[BlueDog2u]

76. Well, I try to assume the best about everyone until proven wrong

:argh:

[Last Lemming]

75. Well, I'm new to message boards

and I seem already to be in over my head.

[aquart]

91. Feeney? Innocent? FEENEY???????

[Danish Reporter]

62. ANOTHER UPDATE: Interview with Cliff Arnebeck, Ohio

Cliff Arnebeck

Concerning the filing of the challenge of the vote:

- Were still working on it. Its complex. We have to have all the 25 contesters to sign the complaint. Its an ordeal. Weve got a team of lawyers working on it. I told the NY Times yesterday that we'd be filing werdnesday, but the date isnt carved in stone.
- We of course have a deadline, which is outside the actual time that it will be ripe to be filed, starting at three thirty yesterday afternoon. While were later than we would have liked, in terms of the actual statutory scheme, were not... If we filed today we'd be within the first 24 hours of the first clear legal opportunity to do it.
- So when's the deadline?
- Fifteen days after the certification. In two weeks.
- The electorate will meet december 13?
- Thats the schedule. The national schedule. Naturally we'll be seeking to have that modified in view of the recount and the challenge.
- What do you build your challenge on?
- We build our challenge on statistical anomalies which are not explainable in any other way than that the voting was hacked and votes where moved from Kerry to Bush in three or four counties in and around Cincinatti.
- Butler?
- Butler, Clairmount(sp?), Warren and Hamilton.
- You have analyzed these anomalies statisticly?
- Yes, analyzed them from a macro standpoint, looking at all the counties in the state, using benchmarks from other races which were competitive, then also analyzing precint by precint, each of the top three counties, where the anomalies appeared to exist on a macro analysis, so we have statistical analysis, macro, micro both pointing the same way, and with that data if you correct for that anomaly and say, that the only logical explanation is that the votes were moved, and if you move the votes back to where they were cast, then you get a concistency with what the exit polling data showed on election day. So thats pretty strong evidence.
- We think its fraud. We think we can prove it. We think we can prove it within the timeframe of this election and of course, if that is succesful - and were not dependent of the secretary of state who's both corrupt and partisan, this is filed before the Ohio supreme court - so we think we can accomplish the task of correcting for this fraud and if so, that would mean the Ohio electorial votes would be cast for Kerry, which would mean that Kerry would be president instead of Bush.
- What amount of votes were moved from Kerry to Bush?
- We can't tell at this point, but we think at minimum it's the margin. The margin. So 60.000, moving 60.000 votes in these three or four counties, 60.000 votes, deducted from Kerry and added to Bush would create a 120.000 margin. It is at least that. It may be more. This may have been done in more counties. The aggregate of the movement would mean that Kerry actually won by the margin that they reported that Bush won.
- This sounds similar to the working paper from Michael Hout, UC Berkeley on the election in Florida.
- This election?
- Have you read that report?
- No.
- They investigated how electronical voting machines moved votes to Bush. They claim that 130.000 upwards to 260.000 votes were moved from Kerry to Bush in three counties.
- Wow!
- They build this claim on statistical analysis of anomalies.
- I'm glad you brought that up. I had vaguely heard about something going on, but I didn't know the details and I didn't know they'd come up with the same scenario.
- I'll mail their working paper to you immediately.
- The New York Times did cover this (the challenge). I gave them a couple of interviews yesterday and its in todays NY Times. I'm assuming the Washington Post has it as well, I gave them two interviews yesterday. I also gave a half hour interview with CNN and I did a half hour interview with CSPAN about a week ago, its available on the internet.
- Not much media coverage?
- Thats changing. Once you make the NY Times and Washington Post you're in the main stream media.



That's it for now.
Yours

[Helga Scow Stern]

68. Posted on a separate thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x123397

[Broken Acorn]

63. OMG

Can somebody please respond reasonably to post #61?

[BlueDog2u]

78. Whatever anyone thinks of Broken Acorn's motives

This is a reasonable request.

[sabra]

86. Post #82

82. A few links


A few links for the Clinton Curtis story in danish media:

Berlingske Tidende: http://www.berlingske.dk/udland/artikel:aid=513676 /

Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten:
http://www.jp.dk/udland/artikel:aid=2761274

Ekstra Bladet:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=272488

Interview with Cliff Arnebeck:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/kc/dx4/visArtikel.iasp?pageID=27...

Yours

[sunnystarr]

93. Here's another link

http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=272623

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

106. Maybe I'll move to Denmark. I already know one word: "Programmør"

[jamboi]

71. Rock on Bo! n/t

[Gregorian]

72. YES! This is thrilling!

I feel like something is finally happening. Having said that, I am one the phone right now with my long distance company. During the elections I decided to move to Canada. That was, until I realized that immigration takes nearly two years. So I ceased my efforts. BUT, in the meantime I racked up a $1100 phone bill. Long story. But after working for months to get the phone company to understand my situation, I JUST GOT THE PHONE BILL DISMISSED! YEEHAW.

Now all we need to do is get the media to do the same. And we might just get to dismiss this group of criminals in the White House.

Bush, you're dismissed!

[Quakerfriend]

79. Go directly to jail

Do not pass GO, DO not collect $200!

[RuleofLaw]

80. For what its Worth

Bo is genuine enough and the link he provided to DR.DK (Danish Radio, is real)

While the story is not on the electronic version of Ekstra Bladet, I don't doubt that it is in the printed version.

While Ekstra Bladet is called a tabloid, they do win prizes regularly for investigative journalism (remember that concept).

How do I know? I am Danish, living in Florida and regularly read danish papers

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[zeemike]

81. Well thank you Bo

I will eat a danish in your honor

[Danish Reporter]

82. A few links

A few links for the Clinton Curtis story in danish media:

Berlingske Tidende: http://www.berlingske.dk/udland/artikel:aid=513676/

Morgenavisen Jyllands-Posten:
http://www.jp.dk/udland/artikel:aid=2761274

Ekstra Bladet:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=272488

Interview with Cliff Arnebeck:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/kc/dx4/visArtikel.iasp?pageID=272623

Yours

[proudbluestater]

83. Thanks so much for all your efforts!

Please let the Danes know about our media and our politicians in power. We have no news media to speak of anymore. The Republicans in power think that they are above the law and the courts are stacked against the Democrats as well, due to the fradulent elections. Thanks for all you've done!

[gingergreen]

84. WOW awesome work...German edition

I am living in Germany... maybe I could try to get the article you posted in the news here? Let me know:D

[Helga Scow Stern]

90. Write Bo

[e-mail]

[marions ghost]

87. excellent interview, Bo

Thank you for posting the Curtis link and the Arnebeck interview...and for shining some light into our current state of darkness in this country. The world needs to know what is really going on over here. And obviously we will continue to need your perspective on this as the story unfolds. Hope you plan to stay on top of it.

No matter what mainstream American media do to try to redeem themselves now, I will never forget or forgive the total blackout on this issue in Black November 04. Feel totally burned. Vote of No Confidence. Will be following new US outlets and international sources from now on.

[Karenca]

88. Is there any updated info on this? nt

[Hydr0matic]

89. Swedish Aftonbladet run story !

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,573183,00.html

I translated it for you non-swedes...


Alleged voter fraud in Ohio
John Kerry could still be the president of the United States.
  Voter fraud occurred in the state of Ohio - and attorney Cliff
Arnebeck says he can prove it.
  - It means Kerry will be president instead of Bush,
he says to Ekstrabladet.
  The American election could end up in court. A large number
of lawyers with Cliff Arnebeck in front is currently in the process
of completing a {motion/suit}(?), which could result in Bush losing
his victory.
  - This is fraud and we can prove it within the time frame of the
election. It means that Ohio's electoral votes would go to Kerry,
which in turn means that he will be president instead of Bush,
Arnebeck says to the newspaper.

"The election was rigged"
  The lawyers say that at least 60 000 votes was taken from Kerry
and moved over to Bush.
  - We are basing the accusation on anomalies that cannot be
explained in any other way than that the election was rigged, says
Arnebeck.
  This Tuesday Ekstrabladet ran a story on the computer programmer
Clinton Curtis, who in a court of law admitted to developing software
that would transfer votes during the election.

Statistical analysis
  There are no proof supporting these claims yet, but Curtis testimony
is supported by a statistical analysis that show central tabulators
transferring at least 130 000 votes in favor of the republicans.
  According to Curtis the software was ordered by congressman
Tom Feeney, one of the governors in Florida and Jed Bush's closest
associate.

[nmoliver]

95. thank you ... but ...

it's important to get the facts as correct as possible, or our detractors will give us no end of smears and libel.

The software that was requested of Curtis by Feeney is not the same software that Arnebeck is claiming is responsible for Ohio election fraud. In fact, Arnebeck points to a wide variety of vote suppression and manipulation techniques, but has made no claims of a software program that has manipulated counting from within.

Similarly, Curtis has made no claim that his software prototype was ever installed or used anywhere. What his claim proves - assuming it is completely true - is that there is a Republican conspiracy to rig presidential elections through software manipulation.

We need our European friends desperately now. Please help us by making sure these stories you report in your press are whistle-clean.

Nina

[Hydr0matic]

96. thnx.. I'll email 'em the corrections ... /nt

[Hydr0matic]

97. hmm.. but ..

The swedish article doesn't really say this.. The translation isn't perfect so there's room for misinterpretation.

For example..
"developing software that would transfer votes"

Should actually be ..
"developing software that COULD transfer votes"


But the article does imply a connection between Curtis's software and the Arnebeck claims, so I'll ask him to clarify this..

[Danish Reporter]

100. Minor corrections

Dear DU'ers

In my first article on Curtis I wrote that he was asked to develop a PROTOTYPE of software, that 'COULD alter the vote tabulation in an election and be undetectable'. (My emphasis)

I never concluded that the program was deployed or used.

In my follow up article with Cliff Arnebeck I wrote that 'Ekstra Bladet tuesday described how the computer-programmer Clint Curtis has presented an affidavit claiming how he developed a computer-program designed to clandestinely move votes during an election. No evidence have been put forward that this actually happened. But Curtis affidavit supports the allegations by Cliff Arnebeck. Allegations that are also supported by a statistical analysis that shows that electronic voting machines may have moved at least 130.000 votes from Kerry to Bush in Florida'.

I believe what has happened with the swedish article is that it has been slightly skewed by translations and rewrites from original danish article -> danish bureau rewrite -> swedish -> english.

Danish and swedish is close. The article is not that bad, but some precision has gone lost in transmission. It happens all the times.

Edit: 'Inför rättan' doesn't necessarily mean 'in court'. In this case it refers to the affidavit, as in 'in a legally valid document' I believe.

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[dewaldd]

103. Denmark is awesome--they rallied to save the Danish Jews from Hilter

Read about it here: http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/denmark.htm

Only 51 of 8,000 Jewish Danes died in the Holocaust. The rest were rescued by various means, including government intervention to save the lives of the few who were deported to concentration camps.

[pgh_dem]

104. right on, shakespeare should apologize

for that whole 'rotten in denmark' thing.

[FloridaCrat]

105. Bo from Denmark, Thank you. We'll keep feeding you, and you keep

feeding us. We are starving, so, take it slowly.

It's very important that the story of the lack of independent and
unbiased media, especially the AP, be told. There was a response
from one AP official that claimed the Congressman Conyers hearings
on Dec 8 were unworthy of news coverage and unnecessarily partisan.
Partisan means that only one party is involved. The hearings were
held by Democrats. Republicans were invited, but they did not attend.
How did the AP know ahead of time that no Republicans would be
attending?

DU has all references to the articles and resources which provide
much of the proof for what is being claimed here, as well as over
57,000 affidavits of election problems that occurred on November 2,
2004. DU is where the original statistical work was done -

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your interest and
good luck to you. You will need it - the conspiracy is far reaching
and has tentacles in every part of our government. Make no mistake
about this, these were across-the-board fraudulent elections and we
are so angry and frustrated, there will be demonstrations in all the
state capitals this weekend.

[Danish Reporter]

107. Kick

Still here. Still working on it. Will keep you posted.

Keep the mails coming. I get a lot of mails and calls from worried readers both in the US and in Denmark.

Yours