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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:20 PM
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Something is cooking cause
the kitchen is heating up and the rats are coming out in full force...can anyone refute this? I am guessing its smoke and mirrors but want to be sure. It was in a bipartisan (yeah right)forum that I went to previous to coming here but was overrun with fascists and I had to leave.

http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65896,00.html?tw=rss.TOP

A study by Berkeley grad students and a professor showing anomalies with electronic-voting machines in Florida has been debunked by numerous academics who say the students used a faulty equation to reach their results and should never have released the study before getting it peer-reviewed.

The study, released three weeks ago by seven graduate students from the University of California, Berkeley's Quantitative Methods Research Team and sociology professor Michael Hout, presented analysis showing a discrepancy in the number of votes Bush received in counties that used touch-screen voting machines versus counties that used other types of voting equipment.


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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:37 PM
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1. Hi Horse
This was posted this morning
on DU..not sure were , I'm sure there would be some feedback about it
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pixelthief Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:40 PM
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2. Hold up, quickdraw
I don't think we should be so quick to dismiss this. Click on the "Also by this reporter" link at the top of the article and check out her body of work. Kind of hard to write her off.

I worry that we're becoming too quick to dismiss evidence that doesn't fit in with how we see this issue.

The chimp does that. We cannot, in our zeal to unravel the wrongdoing that went on, become like them. We've got to heavily scrutinize our evidence of fraud so that it stands up to outside scrutiny. If we get to the batter's box with shaky evidence then we're going to strike out regardless of the fact that this election was, in fact, stolen.

Have we learned nothing from Rathergate?

I'm not saying that I believe those trying to debunk berkeley. I'm not a statistician and I'm not qualified. Furthermore, I don't know much about them and therefore shouldn't speculate about their motives. I'm just saying that we shouldn't write things off just because they don't seem to fit with our version of events.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:52 PM
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3. Consider The Source; Follow The Money
The best way for a layman to try to determine up from down when it comes to things like the Berkeley report is to follow the dollar. When people try to debunk the report, do they have an agenda? The Republican's have spies and disinformation agents everywhere, on the PAYROLL no less! That's part of what makes Karl Rove such an evil genius!
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