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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:04 AM
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Kerry's popular vote percentage on a slow, steady rise.
Check out uselectionatlas.org. Right after the election, Bush was listed as having 51.03% to Kerry's 47.99%. Then it was Bush 50.84 to Kerry's 48.19. Now it's Bush 50.75 to Kerry's 48.27. So Bush's lead is now down to 2.48% of the popular vote. Hardly a mandate I would say!

I guess those absentee and overseas votes are going overwhelmingly for Kerry.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:09 AM
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1. Turning into a hermaphrodate
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:10 AM
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17. LOL
:thumbsup:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:13 AM
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2. How many of those are military votes I wonder
So is Bush the choice of the military or ain't he?
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:43 AM
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20. I know!!! Damn, it looks funkier all the time. n/t
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:45 AM
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21. I wonder how many of those soldiers infront of RUMP-field yesterday
would vote OVERWHELMINGLY for Kerry........if given the chance today?

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:00 PM
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26. Isn't there someway we can get the information on which way the military
votes went. It would be a huge statement about * not really having a mandate at all if we could only publicize that the military (at least those on the ground, not the brass) did not vote for *. I'm practically certain they didn't, otherwise the Pillsbury Roveboy would have insisted that news be shouted from the highest mountaintop and crowed about on every faux media channel.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:14 AM
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3. Link to stats? n/t
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:21 AM
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4. He gave it to you, here
www.uselectionatlas.org
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:04 AM
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5. I love that site
I am forever going there to look up things. :D
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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:50 PM
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37. Interesting Table from the site
Place State Elec Vote Total Votes Rank Democratic
1 District of Columbia 3 227,586 1 202,970 89.18%
2 Massachusetts 12 2,912,388 1 1,803,800 61.94%
3 Rhode Island 4 436,124 1 259,124 59.42%
4 Vermont 3 312,309 1 184,067 58.94%
5 New York 31 7,391,741 1 4,314,280 58.37%
6 Maryland 10 2,386,678 1 1,334,493 55.91%
7 Illinois 21 5,275,415 1 2,891,989 54.82%
8 California 55 12,383,678 1 6,737,355 54.41%
9 Connecticut 7 1,578,769 1 857,488 54.31%
10 Hawaii 4 429,013 1 231,708 54.01%
11 Delaware 3 375,190 1 200,152 53.35%
12 Maine 4 686,510 1 364,153 53.04%
13 New Jersey 15 3,611,691 1 1,911,430 52.92%
14 Washington 11 2,859,084 1 1,510,201 52.82%
15 Oregon 7 1,836,782 1 943,163 51.35%
16 Michigan 17 4,839,252 1 2,479,183 51.23%
17 Minnesota 10 2,828,387 1 1,445,014 51.09%
18 Pennsylvania 21 5,673,808 1 2,885,077 50.85%
19 New Hampshire 4 677,563 1 340,471 50.25%
20 Wisconsin 10 2,997,007 1 1,489,504 49.70%
21 Iowa 7 1,506,908 2 741,898 49.23%
22 New Mexico 5 756,304 2 370,942 49.05%
23 Ohio 20 5,625,631 2 2,739,952 48.70%
24 Nevada 5 829,587 2 397,190 47.88%
25 Florida 27 7,609,810 2 3,583,544 47.09%
26 Colorado 9 2,129,630 2 1,001,732 47.04%
27 Missouri 11 2,731,364 2 1,259,171 46.10%
28 Virginia 13 3,198,367 2 1,454,742 45.48%
29 Arkansas 6 1,055,510 2 470,230 44.55%
30 Arizona 10 2,013,859 2 893,524 44.37%
31 North Carolina 15 3,501,007 2 1,525,849 43.58%
32 West Virginia 5 755,659 2 326,541 43.21%
33 Tennessee 11 2,437,319 2 1,036,477 42.53%
34 Louisiana 9 1,943,106 2 820,299 42.22%
35 Georgia 15 3,298,790 2 1,366,149 41.41%
36 South Carolina 8 1,617,730 2 661,699 40.90%
37 Kentucky 8 1,795,860 2 712,733 39.69%
38 Mississippi 6 1,114,859 2 440,034 39.47%
39 Indiana 11 2,468,002 2 969,011 39.26%
40 Montana 3 450,434 2 173,710 38.57%
41 South Dakota 3 388,215 2 149,244 38.44%
42 Texas 34 7,410,749 2 2,832,704 38.22%
43 Alabama 9 1,883,415 2 693,933 36.84%
44 Kansas 6 1,154,079 2 420,846 36.47%
45 Alaska 3 312,598 2 111,025 35.52%
46 North Dakota 3 312,833 2 111,052 35.50%
47 Oklahoma 7 1,463,758 2 503,966 34.43%
48 Nebraska 5 778,186 2 254,328 32.68%
49 Idaho 4 598,447 2 181,098 30.26%
50 Wyoming 3 243,428 2 70,776 29.07%
51 Utah 5 927,844 2 241,199 26.00%
Total 538 122,032,263 2 58,901,220 48.27%



sorry it's so jumbled, didn't cut and paste to text well

my point was that it showed the percentages in ranking by states of how many dems voted in each state!
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:09 AM
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6. I'm one of the overseas voters for Kerry...
And I'm proud I voted for him.
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JD Lau Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:51 PM
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24. Yayyyyy for you!
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 07:29 AM
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7. I've noticed that as well.
Bush's figures in IA and NM have both dropped below 50% as well.

Bush already had the smallest margin of victory for an incumbent ever (he broke Woodrow Wilson's record); now it's getting smaller and smaller by the day.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:20 AM
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8. The incredible shrinking mandate. n/t
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:20 AM
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9. Happy Chanukah!
I love a good shrinking mandate!
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:07 AM
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15. Funny!
I love that - "I love a good shrinking mandate." That's funny. Mind if I plagiarize?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:25 AM
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18. It's all yours! n/t
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:23 AM
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10. Now how
do we get this reported???
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 09:36 AM
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11. Kerry Wins (outside the Confederacy)
Do you realize that Kerry's vote total outside the 11 states of the confederacy now exceeds Bush's by 2 million? If you add into the confederacy 11 Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Indiana, in you get 14 states that produced over a six million Bush advantage. That means that in 36 states plus the district, Kerry won the popular vote by 3 million.

What's this show? Those southern and rural folks really, really like Bush, but the rest of us don't cotton to him all that much.

Who won the Civil War????
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 10:06 AM
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12. Wow. Thanks, kennetha
That's some kind of interesting. Who, indeed, did win the civil war?

We must run a southerner the next time. Or, we could just fix the voting process, ya know, go back to good old simple redneck, paper and pen.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 10:22 AM
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13. That's true but
the rethugs can say that about New England also.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:07 AM
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16. Poor Indiana
Kentucky had representation in the Confederate congress and most of the tribes in the Indian Territory (Oklahoma) joined the Confederacy too, but what would be the justification for lumping Indiana under the Starry Cross? Indiana was a loyal northern state.

Better to add Missouri if you need another Confederate state as they also had representatives in the congress in Richmond.
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:54 PM
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25. Wasn't IN a major KKK stronghold?
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 10:51 AM
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14. Kerry gained what Bush lost
Is that a coincidence?
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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 02:52 PM
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19. kick
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ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:30 PM
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22. Just as you might expect...
This seems to be just the results you'd expect if widespread vote manipulation on a small, hardly noticable scale had taken place over a large proportion of the precincts. Let's say this is true, and the perps planned for possible exposure of the scheme by making sure cover stories were available for some subset of these precincts...perfectly logical explanations, prepared for a number of these "modified" precincts, that explains why the vote count was wrong. If people start suspecting, pop out these explanations for a few of the precincts, and restore the correct results. Now you can say, "see, it was an honest mistake, but it doesn't change the election...no need to spend all that money to continue investigating!"

If the vote advantage you got from all those fixed precincts is big enough, you can afford to lose a few to provide cover for the rest.

Tin Foil Hat territory, perhaps.
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bruised Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 12:40 PM
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23. FULL ORIGINAL EXIT POLLS
See www.exitpollz.org for FULL ORIGINAL EXIT POLL DOCUEMENTS for some Sates (e.g. Colorado, Ohio, Florida)
I would have put this on breaking news -but I do not have enough posts.
What I would really like would be a copy of the original National exit poll that predicted a lead to Kerry in the popular vote. SOMEBODY MUST HAVE DOWNLOADED those files that were on CNN all evening but have now vanished into thin air.
(Look for update times typically 7 pm).

If you have any other original exit polls, President or Senator, I will add them. I will be improving the site soon and adding an email for this. or you can reply here. The object is to publish the exit polls that have vanished into thin air! The fact of having source docs gives more weight to the figures. By the way the full polls also give detail about how voters voted within different regions of a state –which can help analysis.

I can only see 2 possible explanations:
1/ That 44 people out of 2505 respondents all told the truth as to who they voted for Senator, but then lied about who they voted for president. This needs a pattern of respondents all lying in the same way – otherwise the lies would tend to cancel each other out and the overall effect would be negligible.
2/ That 36,500 (1.8%) of votes were switched from Kerry to Bush in Colorado in order to help build up a popular vote mandate for Bush.

The fact that similar patterns are reported in many states makes me lean to the second theory. –if only we had a full list of documented exit polls.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:33 PM
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38. Welcome to DU and thanks for your great work.
:hi:
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:00 PM
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27. Who's counting those ballots????
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:16 PM
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28. Thank YOU!
Im going to add this to the list of info Im emailing out today-GREAT work you guys.

Keep the pressure up people."Its happening".
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goldengreek Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:17 PM
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29. Gee. Isn't that funny?
I mean, the closer we look at this election, the more votes Kerry picks up relative to Bush.
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mdb Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:21 PM
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30. That would explain it. (absentee and overseas votes going for Kerry)
I guess they didn't count on that. Mandate... ha!
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:26 PM
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31. does anyone know of an "official" link to the popular vote?
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:15 PM
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32. I don't -but Im sure
another DUer can answer your question.

Welcome to DU :toast:

:kick:
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:17 PM
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33. what's the margin of error?
maybe we need a nationwide recount.
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:33 PM
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34. Doesn't change the fact that he rolled over & died
LONG before any serious, never mind deep counting began

I'm still of the opinion that Skull & Bones won.
And even Clinton has seemed to change as of late. The Bilderberg is a fact. We 'regular' people don't stand a chance against powerful, secret societies.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:40 PM
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35. Suggestion
Put the link in the opening post, redo the thread and get in nominated for the home page. I tried to nominate but it told me I couldn't since it was "over 24 hours old".

Anything to reduce the illusion of a mandate should be front page news.
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 03:43 PM
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36. ......
Anything to reduce the illusion of a mandate should be front page news.

Iv already sent this info out to atleast 35 news sources.I hope everyone else is doing the same.
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