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Wed Dec-08-04 04:36 PM
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Sharpton just handed Novak his ass |
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"If you are so sure that your party won Ohio, then you shouldn't care if we recount it over and over and over and over."
ETA: Sharpton and Novak are on Crossfire - CNN
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:36 PM
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:37 PM
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:37 PM
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2. Sharpton doesn't give a shit who he's talking too any more. |
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He just blasts away, and for the most part, he usually hits the mark.
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:38 PM
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5. Ah ha ha ha! Kick for Al!! |
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:41 PM
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8. He never cared, Go AL!!! nm |
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:50 PM
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21. Love it! He's been really coming on strong since election day. n/t |
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:55 PM
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52. When did he speak since election day? |
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I've been following this pretty closely since the 4th and I don't remember him ever saying anything. I've been hoping he would and surprised he didn't.
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Wed Dec-08-04 10:58 PM
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The guy is just incredible. He's also hilarious because he knows a dirty litttle secret.
(...his interlocutors are crooked imbeciles)
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:38 PM
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4. Yes, that's the ticket! |
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The Republican response is always about wasting the taxpayers money. They can think of a thousand different ways to increase the deficit, but when it comes to ensuring democracy...well, that just costs too, too much!
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:43 PM
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12. We can spend millions to investigate Clinton's infidelity |
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but not voter fraud?
what is wrong with these people.
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Wed Dec-08-04 08:40 PM
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61. Because Clinton got laid! The Dog! |
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Can't have that now can we!!!!
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:45 PM
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16. what a massive of waste of taxpayer $ if fraud puts the wrong guy |
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in office. Dems can hammer this point--there's no recount $$$ cost that will come anywhere close to the wasted taxpayers' money spent on an election that didn't reflect the taxpayers' will.
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:59 PM
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34. For what the Iraq invasion/occupation costs in one damn day, |
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we could pay for recounts in every precinct in the whole fukin' country. Welcome to DU! :toast:
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:03 PM
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Welcome to DU, so happy to greet you! :hi:
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:45 PM
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17. Maybe if Halliburton did the recounts |
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they'd be okay with it costing a trillion dollars
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:57 PM
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Ho, ho, that's funny.......
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Wed Dec-08-04 08:31 PM
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59. $3M on Ukraine revote, Donkies to get ballots into rural Afganistan |
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And they dare tell us a recount in OH is a waste?
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:38 PM
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6. Well that's not very hard to do... |
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Any human being with over 2 functioning brain cells could hand NoFacts his ass on a platter...him and Bow Tie Boy as well...
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:43 PM
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10. Must not the be the case |
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because I sure don't see many dems doing it.
I'm beginning to think that we, as members of the dem party, would be better served writing letters of inspiration to our own leadership and providing them donations so they can buy a set of balls instead of pounding on the media. Of course that's only MHO.
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:54 PM
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27. Carlson only wears the bow tie |
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to distract viewers from the fact that he only has half a brain.
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:24 PM
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45. And that he's a douche bag. |
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Wed Dec-08-04 06:20 PM
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55. Get it straight. Carlson's the dick. |
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Novak's the Douche Bag of Liberty.
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Wed Dec-08-04 11:53 PM
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Wed Dec-08-04 08:34 PM
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60. Carlson's a lot smarter than everyone thinks. In reality, he's a... |
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moderate who has gotten stuck in the partisan cycle of always having to defend everything Bush does. Unfortunately, his bowtie still sucks.
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Wed Dec-08-04 11:56 PM
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the neocon propaganda training corps. He's not a journalist. He's a personality, which means that his only job is to defend everything that Bush does. I don't find anything moderate in that.
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:40 PM
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Right on, Rev. Sharpton!:kick:
By the way, why isn't Novak in prison for his part in outing a CIA operative---jail the b@stard!!
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:50 PM
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20. I am watching too. Novak is a jack-ass |
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excuse my French!
Rev Sharpton is right on. Raking BUSHOHOLIC over the coals now for his FLAWED AND FAILED POLICY and for Bush's rotten "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
We all know that Bush lied. The "mission" is far from over. Iraq is a bloody mistake.
SEND BUSH'S DAUGHTERS OVER TO IRAQ!!
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:42 PM
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9. What did Novak say? nm |
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:44 PM
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14. that we should just get over it |
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Wed Dec-08-04 11:59 PM
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71. He wouldn't be saying that if his candidate had lost. |
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:44 PM
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15. Called the DNC and Kerry "sore losers" |
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for participating in the Ohio recounts. Made a little speech about Bush being the rightful president... elected by the people... blah,blah,blah
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:57 PM
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Some of the people ... let them prove it!
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:43 PM
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11. Should be obvious to most people. |
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However we know if the Republicans can at least "muddy" the argument to the point that it's a draw (as demonstrated in that movie Outfoxed), maybe again this time with "they want to recount until they win", it's like a win for them.
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:43 PM
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13. It was in response to Novak's comment that Kerry was a "Sore Loser" for |
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Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 04:45 PM by Wordie
joining the call for a recount in OH. We should send this thread to all those on DU who keep asking why Kerry doesn't get more involved. Even with Kerry's fairly low-key involvement, this is what we get: snarky comments from Novak in the msm. Can you imagine the outcry if Kerry became more visibly involved? Kerry has taken the right approach.
And GO Sharpton! He is great! Now he's challenging the rightwing folks by saying that they are looking for a theocracy! Whew!
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:52 PM
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23. "sore loser" is soooo 2000 |
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Don't these guys ever think of anything original?
Anyway, we aren't any kind of loser. We're angry winners!
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:57 PM
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33. I think the reason we haven't heard more "sore loser" is Kerry's wisdom in |
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not making a lot of noise about all this. If he had, we wouldn't have gotten as far as we have with the effort to reform the voting process. All these efforts would have been drowned out by all the conservatives screaming, "sore loser" at Kerry.
It is up to us, as it should be, in a democracy.
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:19 PM
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43. Another great bumper sticker |
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Angry Winners, not Sore Losers!/Kerry won Election 2004
but personally I like, Fraud not Faith /Election 2004
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Wed Dec-08-04 06:21 PM
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56. And we're not "crying " or "whining" we're litigating ! |
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I love the line from Arnebeck! :)
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:06 PM
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If Kerry was out front running this investigation, he would have never gotten as far as we have NOW. Kerry is intelligent, thus knows that by being out of the fire, keeps the investigation NON political,as they always say, this isn't about Kerry or Bush, its about Democracy and an honest election. I agree that it should be called ELECTIONGATE...the voters went honestly to place their vote, and the BushCo Bunch...hijacked the election...It's ELECTIONGATE!! If this election turns to Kerry, he then can bring the Country together, as he wasn't part of the original investigation.into the election fraud! Just my 2 cents.
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:27 PM
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46. Yep, this way, the Repubs have no legitimate way to criticize, because we |
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can always say, "You mean you DON'T want to count the votes?" Otherwise, if Kerry had gotten involved, it would be seen as purely partisan. And, much as I wanted Kerry to win, its about more than Kerry.
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:35 PM
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47. Yep, Kerry Knows that would happen! |
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It is a stategic move on Kerry and the DNC. I think they knew right from the beginning that electiongate was a possibility! If all of us were aware, I believe they were way ahead of us. That is why ALL the attorneys were on site of the Ohio and Florida Counties in question. Including MM, as Conyers made a remark today, stating "Are we going to wait for MM to make a film of the inconsistancies, or do something NOW"!!! I thought that was telling..
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:23 PM
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44. Good thing Yushchenko in the Ukraine didn't care when.... |
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the "winner" of that rigged election called him a "sore loser."
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Wed Dec-08-04 06:23 PM
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57. Considering they tried to murder him, I doubt he cared about perception |
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They poisoned him, disfigured him for life, and left him in constant, debilitating physical pain. Waging a PR battle is peanuts compared to that.
Apples and moon rocks by comparison.
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Thu Dec-09-04 12:21 AM
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72. Remember what Clinton endured |
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for something that was essentially true.
If someone wants to be leader of the free world, they should be able to endure unfavorable mischaracterizations by political enemies. If any wuss could potentially get the job, maybe I should consider running someday.
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:47 PM
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18. now the Rev. is challenging the repubs about their attempts to |
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turn us into a theocracy....GO, REV., GO:kick:
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:49 PM
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19. Novak should be worried about his future |
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Inmates don't have much time to talk about politics...
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:14 PM
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41. but lots of time worrying about covering their ASS..haha |
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:51 PM
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22. Can't stand to watch Novak no matter who is on |
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:52 PM
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24. You go, Rev Al!! He is verbally adroit and spiritually strong! |
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As for Novak, he is becoming one of the "living dead" right in front of our eyes, just like Rumsfeld. They are literally shrinking in their skeletons (Bush is, too, like his shoulders are crumbling, which makes his belly bulge) from lifelong bad habits and hate.
Wow! Al Sharpton really grew as a Presidential candidate!!
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:53 PM
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25. Good thing there's Democrats like Sharpton. |
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Wish he had kicked Novak in his liver spotted head.
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:53 PM
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26. Novak should be in jail. Why didn't Sharpton say that? |
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Out a CIA agent, you shouldn't be able to remain on television, as you should probably be spending your waking hours in court and ultimately jail.
Oh well, at least we got that troublemaker Martha. :eyes:
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:56 PM
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29. Since the Dem convention |
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I can't get enough of Reverend Al :loveya:
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after his speech, I was standing alone in my livingroom with tears in my eyes, giving him a standing ovation.
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Wed Dec-08-04 04:56 PM
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30. Yeah, they call that relationship "abusive" |
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LMAO!! That's Sharpton's reply to the repug pundit's claim that Rumsfeld has "developed a relationship with the troops."
Still LOL!!
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Wed Dec-08-04 11:00 PM
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66. That man is a real prince. (n/t) |
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36. That woman sure couldn't keep up |
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:01 PM
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37. Here's my email to Crossfire |
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I ticked off "positive" when asked what kind of comment I was writing, then wrote this:
Ok, I tricked you. I have a positive comment, first: You need to have more folks like Rev. Sharpton, who are willing to speak the truth to flaming jerks like Novack, on your show. And having mentioned Novack, why isn't he in jail yet? Don't start crying about journalistic freedom. His participation in the Plamme case was shameful and criminal. He has lost any moral credibility he might once have had. Fire him, please. Maybe Rev. Sharpton can take his place. And please keep covering the electoral fraud in Ohio, Florida, and all those other states, including the Urkaine.
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Combined with Conyers's forum, this has been an inspiring day! It's about time we just flat out told the truth, and you can count on people like Sharpton, Kucinich, Jackson, Jackson-Lee, and Susan Truitt to do it.
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:18 PM
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42. Still in shock about Novak's wife from small town |
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in Hill County, Texas. I'm from a small town in Hill County, Texas...but there are a lot of small towns in that county. Another reason I'm glad I'm out of there.:puke:
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:41 PM
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49. I'm shocked he has a wife |
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:57 PM
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53. What happened to his wife |
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Is she a vampire?
Does she fly?
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Wed Dec-08-04 10:50 PM
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63. Rev & Mrs Sharpton To Divorce |
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The MSM were very vague but it was announced a few weeks ago that Reverend and Mrs. Sharpton have decided to end their marriage of more than 2 decades. I don't know the circumstances.
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Wed Dec-08-04 11:01 PM
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67. There was an article in the Village Voice |
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I love the Rev. and he did no more or no less than others.
Example was Poppy who took his personal assistant all over the world with him.
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51. Oh my, you have all got me laughing tonight |
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I must admit Al Sharpton has really come in to his own as a political force. Years ago, he used to spout off just a little too much. Now he listens to what's said, and then BOOM- He hits 'em with the truth with a few choice words!! Gotta love it. Go big Al! You've had my respect ever since you pulled that hunger strike a couple of years ago!!
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Wed Dec-08-04 05:47 PM
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50. I don't think Novak is so sure they won. He may show this today, but... |
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On election night Novak when polls where still open and exit polls looked good for Kerry, Novak gave the WIN to Kerry.
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His speech (one of the better ones) at the DNC was the truth. I was hoping it would ring true on November 3, but oh well.
"we'd ride this donkey as far as it will take us." --from Rev. Al's DNC speech.:yourock:
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It didn't matter by the time our primaries were held, so Al it was. He just makes sense. I knew he couldn't win, but the more Sharpton delegates there IMHO the better.
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Thu Dec-09-04 03:43 AM
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74. That was a history making moment. |
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Although, I enjoyed his entire speech at the DNC, that 'ride the donkey' speech was for me a kinda history making moment . He cracks me up here of late with his quips. GO REV! Keep telling it like it is!
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Wed Dec-08-04 10:52 PM
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64. Simple, commonsensical logic |
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I don't know why most Democrats in Washington don't try a little more of it.
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Thu Dec-09-04 01:05 AM
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73. Oh, I'm so sorry I missed that |
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Thu Dec-09-04 04:53 AM
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75. We need Sharpton in this fight.. |
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perhaps we can email him somewhere and urge him to speak about the fraud.. join with JJ... the cause is great and he knows it. We need Sharptongue Sharpton :P ... maybe he can get people out into the streets!
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