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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:26 PM
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Powerful article from little Ashland Wisconsin
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 11:00 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
Found this on the LeMonde website, which had been taken from an Ashland Wisconsin newspaper:

Voici pourquoi nous, on aime les étatsuniens :-)

"Robert Menard, a soldier in the Marine Corps along Vietnam's Demilitarized Zone from 1967 to 1968, recommended fighting fascism by forming small cells of no more than five or six people.

"You don't go around with a button that says I'm a member of cell no. 13 in Ashland, Wisconsin. Here's my phone number. You get together with five, six people that you trust. And you decide on something to do. If you think it's sitting in the office of a congressman until they get off their ass and do something right, then do it," Menard said through a megaphone. "But, don't expect a big organization to back you up. Don't expect, don't even ask a big organization to do it with you for the simple reason that the bigger the organization, the less it gets done. We need to stop looking for heroes. We are the heroes."

Know who's in your group, Menard said: "I'm not talking paranoia. We know that the FBI, the CIA and other organizations are infiltrating really mundane, average organizations that are trying to do good things within the system."
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Here is some more from the Ashland WI website

Protestors object to Iraq War
Vietnam veteran: Take resistance to next level
By ANDREW BROMAN
The Daily Press (Ashland Wisconsin)
Last Updated: Monday, December 06th, 2004 10:23:38 AM

Several protesters cheered as Menard described the U.S. government as an extension of Adolph Hitler's Third Reich. "People don't want to talk about that: Oh, you can't compare this administration to Hitler. Well, yes you can. Read Mein Kampf. And if you don't see it, go back and do it again," he said.

The similarity is in how "a very small handful of people (are working) to control the lives of the rest of the people on Earth, and to control it in a very negative way," Menard said.
A sentiment at the protest was that the people cannot quit simply because President Bush has claimed a mandate to rule another four years.

"I think we can't give up because of the results of the election. Now more than ever we have to unite for peace and equality and justice," said Helen Pent, a freshman at Northland College. "If the people in Iraq are trying to fight off military occupation, then we should do our small part here in Ashland."

Menard talked about taking action to the next level. "I know this is happening already," he said. "All these secret cells are out there. They're there. There are people getting together already. So do it. Do it today. Bring in other people, not to make a big organization, but bring in one or two and have them go out and get five or six more. And eventually, we got the country."

http://www.ashlandwi.com/placed/index.php?sect_rank=1&story_id=188713
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:28 PM
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1. Someone here (in GD) said almost the exact same thing
yesterday...same sentiment, but not close enough to imply plagiarism. ;)
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:32 PM
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2. Oh, Soory! I didn't realize that. The title was taken from this article
Was yesterday's post about this article, too? I searched before I posted this and didn't find it.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:35 PM
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4. No no no
I meant the quote itself...no one's mentioned the article that I know of.

:hi:
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:39 PM
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5. I tell you, EVERY time I have started a thread I screw it up!!!
It is so embarrassing as a Newbster. But I just discovered this "edit" feature, so have retitled my thread. I really doubt anyone has used THIS one yet
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:54 PM
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6. Oh, thanks. Getting a little paranoid
maybe it's the scary eyes staring at me. Or posting an article with such radical content :tinfoilhat:
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:33 PM
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3. I want to add...
I hope my title "error" doesn't keep people from reading this very powerful article...
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:06 PM
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7. on wisconsin!!
maybe my husband and I need to move to Ashland
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:21 AM
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8. A little speech from the fuhrer
"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press--in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past years."

Hmmm--does this remind you of something a US right-winger might espouse?

I'm not particularly religious but sometimes I wonder if W isn't Hitler's reincarnation. Kidding, sorta
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:29 AM
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9. OMG
Yes, that is very scary. At first I thought you meant BShitler said it, and it sounded like something he might say, then I realized it was a Hitler quote.
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:28 AM
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10. Amazing, you found this at LeMonde? Talking about Wisconsin?
I'm glad you posted it and it is excellent advice. With the Patriot Act II in place and therefore a dictatorship established for GWB and his cronies, it's important to make plans for the future, for if/when the Internet is no longer a meeting place for us.

There were groups in the 60s that sprang up, before Internet. They did have some impact. The Weathermen, the SLCC, the SLA, etc. Somehow we need to make plans to contact each other in the event that our means of communication here is shut down.

We MUST fight back against this fascism.
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