Ohio lockdown a case of prima facie election fraud? Look at this:

[pointsoflight]

Ohio Revised Code, Section 3599.161 makes it a crime for any employee of the Board of Elections to knowingly prevent or prohibit any person from inspecting the public records filed in the office of the Board of Elections.

Ohio Revised Code, Section 3599.42 states: "A violation of any provision of Title XXXV (35) of the Revised Code constitutes a prima facie case of election fraud within the purview of such Title."

[Gyre]

1. Good find!

You have a brilliant future in the law.

Gyre

[Straight Shooter]

2. You have of course sent this to Arnebeck and Cleveland Plain Dealer :)

[e-mail]

I don't know CPD's addy

Don't forget to send it to the man, [e-mail]

Excellent find. Thank Gawd you don't work for the "other side" :D

[troubleinwinter]

3. No need to email it...

They already have it. It is posted at the end of the original article (all over the internet, and posted on DU several times) about the Ohio volunteers being prevented from examining the books in Greene County.

No need to clog the inboxes of these guys with information they already have.

[Straight Shooter]

6. Well, excuse me

:P

[dzika]

7. Yep. Arnebeck has it.

He was on the phone many times yesterday afternoon with the GP Recount Coordinator at the Greene County BOE. They are the ones that wrote the original "lock-down" press release (with the consent of Mr. Arnebeck) that was posted by Ray Beckerman:
http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com/2004/12/blackwell-locks-out-recount-volunteers.html#110273375598353734

[pointsoflight]

10. Sorry for the dupe, must've missed it in the article. n/t

[read the law first]

30. Maybe I'm missing something.

I thought that we were all posting a week ago that somebody make sure that these ballots were locked down and under tight security until the recounts and not available to any potential mischief. I don't want the pukes messing with the ballots but it seems somewhat silly to say pukes can't look at the ballots but we can. I think it is better for these ballots to be under lock and key and good security until the recounts. Now, if the point is that non-governmental employee pukes DO have access and we don't, then we need to storm the Bastille right away.

Let the recounts begin! NOW!

[VTGold]

4. I'm sure it says in tiny print "Except for the Grand Poobah" n/t

[7th_Sephiroth]

5. complain ot the FBI about blackwell

they WILL investigate

[Higans]

8. For our Children

This isn't just about this election, It is about the next one too. It's about 06 and 08 and 10. This is about our children's Children. If election reform is not completed No one may ever have the right to vote again.

It's so obvious a cause. we need paper trails and real Auditing. I'm doing this for you and your children. I'm doing this for my birth Mother who I haven't scene since I was born. Thats what this is about.

The truth is this. For the last 3 elections if not more the computer ballot boxes have been rigged. Large scale rigged. If this is not obvious to you, your not paying attention. Even if I can't get a fair game this time, I want a fair game next time. Thousands of people around the world are protesting.

the constitution grants All Humans the right to vote. not just the two or three who control the central tabulators. The reason it was not fixed in 04 after 2000 is because no one said anything after 2000. The only way it will ever get fixed by 06 and 08 is if we stand up and say something NOW.

Do the people of this country ever want their right to vote? I'm starting to wonder. So far Crowds are showing up in the 100's at multiple state capitals. I'm going now. I hope all the peace loving people join me there.

I :heart U Human Race. Happy Holidays.

[dzika]

9. Update - Conyer's Press Release about Greene County "lock-down"

FROM: Ohio Election Fraud Blog
http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com/2004/12/congressman-conyers-alarmed-at-efforts.html

December 12, 2004

CONGRESSMAN CONYERS ALARMED AT EFFORTS TO OBSTRUCT OHIO RECOUNT EFFORT, CALLS WITNESSES TO MONDAY HEARING


PRESS RELEASE
CONGRESSMAN JOHN CONYERS, JR.
FOURTEENTH DISTRICT, MICHIGAN
RANKING MEMBER, COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
DEAN, CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS
__________________________________________
IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
December 12, 2004
CONTACT:
Dena Graziano [phone]

-snip-
Conyers Alarmed at Efforts to Obstruct Ohio Recount Effort, Calls
Witness to Monday Hearing to Detail Such Efforts

Yesterday, it came to the attention of the House Judiciary Committee
Democratic Staff that efforts to audit poll records in Greene
County, Ohio are being obstructed by County Election officials
and/or Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell. According to Joan
Quinn and Eve Robertson, two election observers researching voting
records, Greene County officials initially gave Quinn and Robertson
access to poll records, and then abruptly withdrew such access.
Greene County Director of Elections Carole Garman claimed that she
had withdrawn access to the voting records at the direction of
Secretary Blackwell. Regardless of who ordered the denial of this
access, such an action appears to violate Ohio law. Later, at the
same office, election observers found the office unlocked, and what
appeared to be locked ballot boxes, unattended. Prior to the
withdrawal of access to the books, observers had found discrepancies
in election records, and possible evidence of minority vote
suppression.

[troubleinwinter]

15. More from the press release:

Because of the urgency of the Greene County matter, Congressman John Conyers, Jr., Ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, has requested that Ms. Quinn testify at a hearing scheduled Monday in Columbus, Ohio. Ms. Quinn has agreed to do so and will also present sworn statements from corroborating witnesses.

Conyers issued the following statement:

"The Recount effort is simply a search for the truth of what happened during the 2004 Presidential election in Ohio. We have now repeatedly seen election officials obstruct and stonewall this search for the truth. I am beginning to wonder what it is they are trying to hide."

[New Earth]

17. w00t!

Conyers doesn't take any shit.

[IAMREALITY]

20. Ya Know, I'm Reallllly Startin to Think Kerry Will Be Inaugurated Jan 20th

A thought to which a repub aquaintance said "Good for you. * will just run in 2008 and whip your asses!"

Never thought of it like that, and actually paused for a moment, only a moment, to think about the ramifications of that.

But then the moment passed, and it hit me "Wait, No He can't, Convicted Felons aren't even allowed to vote let along run for President"

hehe

[TexasChick]

29. Sad things is, Reality, I already thought he was a convicted felon. His

arrest for DUI in Kennenbunkport, Maine. (Sigh) I think he's been the only (un)president to have a record! Or, has there been anyone else?

[frictionlessO]

19. been following this since it broke out big on DU yesterday morning

This is what Ive been waiting for. If Conyers is releasing on it to the press, theres going to be action taken. No friggin' doubt about it now, Monday is the day we find out how truly scewed we are, versus how badly we get to screw them.

Im still wondering what the two observers picked up on yesterday, that was being kept hushy? Ayone feel like PMing what they think?

[ladjf]

24. Read my comments above. I spoke by phone with one of the

observers.

[ladjf]

23. On Saturday the lights were on and the door unlocked to

one of the precincts in Dayton. I personally spoke by phone to one of the recount group who told me that on Saturday morning when they arrived at the precinct, the lights were on and the doors unlocked. They called the police who came, looked around and declared that nothing was missing. Shortly thereafter a man claiming to be a locksmith for the Shawnee lock company, made a new key and left. That's all I was told. Think about it. On Friday, the precinct office was giving out the information that the voting records were being locked down, but one day later, anyone in the world could have walked in and stolen anything thing, including computer disks, and paper documents. This stinks!

I still have the number of the lady with whom I spoke and intend to call her again today for an update.

[frictionlessO]

26. Thanks ladjf!! give us an update if ya get one!!

[bunny planet]

31. what I'm afraid of is that they used the time period between the lockdown,

and the finding of the unlocked precinct to alter or completely substitute the ballots. Any chance they could have done that?

[ladjf]

32. Of course. If they are going to walk off and leave crucial

documents unattended, anything could happen. They could then claim a burglary. A Boston Post reporter has said that there will be an article in the paper about the Greene County lock down. I doubt that he has heard the story about the doors being left open. I tried to contact the Globe today with no success.

[bunny planet]

33. I believe I must send another heads-up to Mr. Olberman.

[IndyPriest]

11. You know what really pisses me off?

Laws about election fraud are real. They've got teeth. But are they EVER enforced?? Geezus...

[liam97]

12. Where is the article

which acknowledges the prima facie case? I missed it too

[IndyPriest]

14. Liam: look up, top of this thread! - n/t

[ladjf]

25. Here is the address of the article about the shutdown

in Greene county.

http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com/2004/12/ohio-election-investigation-thwarted.html

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. Only if you're a DEM

apparently.

[merh]

16. How I love prima facie statutes.

It makes things so easy. Now where is that silly ole rethug Attorney General of Ohio? Does party loyalty override his sworn duty to uphold the laws of his State?

IMPEACH - impeach - impeach!

Prima facie -- what a lovely term!

[pointsoflight]

34. kick

[Patsy Stone]

18. Don'tcha have to ask

What the hell are they doing? I mean really, if you want to look guilty in addition to probably being guilty, wouldn't you do something like this? This is almost as stupid as the guy that went to get the deposit on the van back after the first WTC bombing. !*%$# Darwin Award candidates. WTF?

I have a theory:

All of this BS is about getting JK to come out of the corner. The BFEE is not going to waste its time fighting the small fish. They are going to do everything they can to stall and block until the only recourse is for JK himself to come out and make a public request for the recount. Then, the gloves are off. Thoughts?

[IndyPriest]

21. Give the lady a cigar!

I've thought all along that Cobb and Badnarik are Kerry proxies. And if I've thought that, I can't imagine it has escaped entry into Rove's crafty peabrain. The sweet thing is that if Kerry can keep his head down, BushCo is going to have to face the LAW, not Kerry. They've LOVE to draw Kerry into this to make it personal. The MSM would make it into the bar fight they love. A major distraction. Bush vs. Gore, round 2. Hah, not this time. Amazing to think that the "small fish" are the ones who will bring down THE MACHINE. The strategy is VERY good -- C and B initiate the recount, Kerry supports. Arnebeck initiates the lawsuit. C and B and Arnebeck share info. Arnebeck, Kerry's longtime good bud, keeps Kerry up-to-date. It's a one-two punch. That's the way I would have done it. And damned if it doesn't look like that's the way it's working.

[Patsy Stone]

27. Yes

If it's true, it's brilliant. No BvG this time. This may be my Perfect Storm.

What's been killing us is the deafening silence, suspect in itself. That video with its "man in exile" feel and innuendo-heavy wording, the entire DNC and its leaders repeating the same mantra -- Rovian-style psyops. It's all indicative of something. If not, where the hell are all the pods?

The Rs have sent out only Stepford Wives and a junior criminal congressman to fight. So unlike them. There is a larger game going on. I feel it.

[merh]

22. Maybe that is why he hasn't come out yet, he wants to make

sure that his gloves are the proper weight and are on tight. He knows they will go gunning for him, so he wants to be well trained and well armed.

[tandem5]

28. good find! n/t