Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

FOR THE RECORD: it is NOT "Voter" Fraud, it is "ELECTION FRAUD"!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:10 PM
Original message
FOR THE RECORD: it is NOT "Voter" Fraud, it is "ELECTION FRAUD"!
I have seen a lot of members still using the phrase 'voter fraud'. that is NOT what this is about.

Thanks to all those trying to correct the people using 'voter fraud' in posts.

I thought this should be in a thread of it's own, should be kept kicked so people STOP using the misleading phrase.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:14 PM
Response to Original message
1. hello?
can someone please let me know you get the message????

:hi: it's getting so frustrating.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. ELECTION FRAUD
GOT IT!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #1
16. Faye, I catch myself writing it from time to time, but I usually correct
it before I post. I don't even know why it happens. It is so clearly election fraud and not voter fraud. I promise to not let any more of those mistakes slip by again, but I've pretty much gotten out of the habit by now. You are so right to point in out.:-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
25. I'm one of the retentive "spell checkers"
I hope this thread saves me some time. ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #1
26. Another catch phrase: "Pro-Fraud Republicans" n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:15 PM
Response to Original message
3. Yes!
and I may have been guilty of using that phrase myself a few times, when in a hurry! Thanks for the reminder!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
4. let's not forget!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. Absolutely!
Voter fraud is the Repuke tern for fraudulent votes cast by non-existent voters. They accuse us of this all the time and they even have a book about it. Real Wall St. Journal Op Ed stuff. They say it disenfranchises the legal voters. They want to make it appear as a problem equivalent to that which we are accusing them of now, which is systemic election fraud, i.e., counting fraud, a la Stalin.

Now of course two wrongs don't make a right, but in our discussions and elsewhere, we should distinguish between the two.

Then there's that catch-all phrase "voting fraud." I think we need to avoid this one as it's much too vague, at least IMHO.

Thanks for starting a thread on this because it could really muddy the waters if it's not widely understood.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:36 PM
Response to Original message
5. Absolutely, Faye! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:38 PM
Response to Original message
6. V v v v v...election fraud. Got it. Thanks! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:11 PM
Response to Original message
7. seconded.

"Voter fraud" is pure Republican spin, because it implies crimes committed by "the voter", rather than by those who attempted to fraudulently manipulate the rolls, the machinery and the count.

Just another example of the purely Orwellian tactics of today's GOP.


MDN
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:34 PM
Response to Original message
8. kick
till enough people see it and get in the habit of using the correct phrase....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MadScientist Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:43 PM
Response to Original message
9. Other spin controls?
Election fraud, not Voter Fraud.
Malfunction, not glitch.

Anything else?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #9
27. misprogramming, not glitch n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 06:54 PM
Response to Original message
10. "Vote fraud" could work, but I hear what you're saying.
"Voter fraud" suggests the voters are the criminals, not the victims. When it's the other way around. I corrected myself on this early on.

NGU.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
11. I've got it now, thanks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 09:27 PM
Response to Original message
13. kicking
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:50 PM
Response to Original message
14. kick again
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 11:51 PM by Faye
just saw another poster here say 'voter fraud'!!!!

get in the habit, it's ELECTION FRAUD!!! it's especially important now that it will (most likely) become a huge, heated issue in the news, and more people are going to know about it.

let's not spread disinformation!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
senegal1 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. Thanks I appreciate it. Changing to election fraud.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Chasing Dreams Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. Faye : George Carlin would be proud of you!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:54 AM
Response to Original message
18. keep it kicked!
now fox news says voter fraud :puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:58 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. My next sign will be about "Election fraud"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. Yes! Kick this!! Change the frame!!
Evrybody stay on message!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:29 PM
Response to Original message
21. kick
at least two people on this board have said 'voter fraud' today.

BREAK THE HABIT. it's ELECTION FRAUD.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sockpuppet Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #21
31. What if?
What if I find "Voter Fraud" more beautiful and more esthetically pleasing. Beauty IS truth!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:31 PM
Response to Original message
22. Faye You Are Absolutey Correct! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:36 PM
Response to Original message
23. stop ELECTION fraud
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
24. ELECTION fraud!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:55 PM
Response to Original message
28. Yeah, heard that in the hearings yesterday, and cringed a bit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:22 PM
Response to Original message
29. .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue State Blues Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
30. Kick n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:52 PM
Response to Original message
32. Election Fraud Kick n/t
:dem:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue State Blues Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
33. Kicking a friendly reminder n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. thanks, we need it
heard someone on the radio earlier this morning say 'vote fraud' :\

not as bad as votER fraud, but still can be too misleading.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:49 AM
Response to Original message
35. again, twice today
ELECTION FRAUD, GET IT RIGHT!

Practice makes perfect. Say it 20 times out loud.

ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
ELECTION FRAUD
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:37 PM
Response to Original message
36. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
@#$%^@%#%@!%^&$#%^%#^@%#^%*@&
##@^#&*#$^&*#^$&*(@^*$^@^%&%#&*(^$#*}^@#$&*&^
836786378964&*^&*^*(^879!$$%!^@$%&$%^$#%^@&$#@%&$#&$&
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:44 PM
Response to Original message
37. Kicking. I am with you. I get it. I've got your back...
and will correct any misusage of the term!

(Although if anybody, Dem or Repub, participated in either election fraud or voter fraud, I want them investigated and properly prosecuted.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:27 PM
Response to Original message
38. KICK -- from page 20 back to page 1!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. thanks for kicking
not as bad as it used to be, but there are still some who say voter fraud....

ELECTION FRAUD
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
40. KICK
IT'S NOT VOTER FRAUD, IT'S ELECTION FRAUD. DONT' FORGET IT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:18 PM
Response to Original message
41. you say "election fraud",
I say potato. Actually, this was just a shameless kick. I'm just in a good mood since it looks like Massachusetts just might have another favorite son in the White House. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:20 PM
Response to Original message
42. or "voting fraud"
Which I tend to use.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 01:03 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC