CSPAN1 JUST ANNOUNCED Hearings to be aired 4:30pm

[OKthatsIT]

Someone called in about it and this was the answer.

Decemeber 13th, 4:30pm EST, CSPAN 1

[propagandafreegal]

1. thanks! nm

[KerryOn]

66. Here is a small sample of what you will hear:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x7170

[ReneB]

2. cool.. thanks... nt

[mom cat]

3. I wish it were live, but this is better than nothing!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

4. Not live, BUT GREAT!!!!!! Thank you! :)

[lonestarnot]

5. Arizona to certify vote at 2 p.m.

Napalitano to address electors? Wonder what that about. We don't go on daylight savings time, and I think we are Mountain Time. We have 10 electoral votes, but there was monkey business in Pima County, the second largest county. Voters told to go to wrong precincts by callers from repulsive headquarters in Tucson and other crap.

[Proud to be blue]

6. Thanks for the info

Will be sure to tune in!!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

7. HIDEOUS article re today's Ohio electoral vote

Electoral College today more than ritual

By Carl Weiser
Enquirer Washington Bureau (Cincinnati.com)

WASHINGTON - Ohio's 20 presidential electors will gather at noon today in Columbus to cast their votes for President Bush, officially awarding him the most coveted electoral votes of the 2004 presidential race.

For many Americans, including Sen. John Kerry and leaders of the Democratic Party, it's just a ceremony cementing the fact that Bush beat Kerry.

But for a small sliver of conspiracy theorists, liberal activists and alternative news junkies, it's the latest step in stealing the election. Through conspiracy or errors, Kerry's votes were not counted, they insist, though repeated media investigations have shown no evidence supporting their claims.

The Kerry campaign says Bush won Ohio. Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe says Bush won Ohio. The Democrats who serve on the county boards of elections say Bush won Ohio.

What are the chances of Bush's 119,000-vote victory, which puts him over the top in the Electoral College vote, being overturned?

"None," said Carlo LaParo, spokesman for Secretary of State Ken Blackwell. "These accusations are absurd," he said. "Come on. You answer the questions and you provide explanations. And yet these folks still don't believe you. You get to the point where you essentially have to say, 'You know what? I prefer my nuts dry roasted. Thank you. "

E-mail [e-mail]
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041213/NEWS01/412130344

Really, I don't think I'll be able to stand this....

[eowyn_of_rohan]

9. Only reason I posted this here is

This event will be aired on C-Span, "thanks" to Ohio TV

[katinmn]

10. Ish. Once I get some energy back I will write to the editor

how insulting to our intelligence.

[zann725]

12. The "Cincinnati Enquirer?" Isn't that the paper that's been

reporting Election Fraud, and the Warren County 'lock-down,' and even appeared on "Countdown?" Doesn't make sense. Something fishy here.:think:

[eowyn_of_rohan]

14. uhhh, you are right

This is scary

[rumpel]

18. This is not reporting, this is an opinion

[EFerrari]

19. I emailed Mr. Weiser Bob's new article @ Fress Press

I thought he might like to see what an actual journalist can do with a story.

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/985

[jean]

20. how does that Ghandi quote go again? They're in the ridicule phase

moving straight into the fight phase, which we will win! Keep on throwing the crap, Blackwell, LaParo -

[marions ghost]

21. OHIO ACTION on this....!

Can anybody in OH send Letters to ED --the Cincinnati Enquirer--and try to get a rebuttal in print. Keep it to the point, and call this BS for what it is, in polite terms. Goal is to to get it in print, so don't rant, and make it the right length so it doesn't need much editing. Just a forceful rebuttal. We have to counter these skud missiles....

Suggest--DONT mention "nuts dry roasted"---tho I KNOW it would be tempting....only draws attention to the wrong thing.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

26. Propaganda (Here are some contact #s)

is almost all we are getting anymore, it seems. Here are some contacts for the Cincinnati Enquirer:

Emailers: http://www.cincinnati.com/helpdesk/feedback/
"Due to the extremely high volume of e-mail we receive from our readers, you may or may not receive a personal reply. However, your comments are important and WILL be read by a human.

Phone Callers:
Enquirer Circulation: 513-651-4500
Enquirer News Department: 513-768-8600
Cincinnati/Kentucky Post: 513-352-2000
WCPO News Department: 513-852-4071
Enquirer & Post Classifieds: 513-421-6300
"If your matter is urgent, you may call Cincinnati.Com at 513-768-8420"

[katinmn]

28. Agree a LTTE should come from an OH resident...here's a draft.

Dear Editor;

Contrary to Carl Weiser's opinion, I am not a member of a "small sliver of conspiracy theorists, liberal activists and alternative news junkies, intent on stealing the election." I am among millions of concerned, rational Americans who want to restore legitimacy in our election system.

The concern over the election questions is not just a matter for Ohio. Because the outcome of the presidential race is in question, it concerns ALL Americans.

I have read the 14 page letter to Secretary of State Blackwell from the House Judiciary Committee dated December 2, 2004. I watched the televised Conyers' hearing. Those are valid questions that Americans from Minnesota to Texas and from Washington state to Washington D.C. want answered.

Why would an Enquirer reporter want to sweep these questions under the rug? By not allowing recount workers to access public election records, Secretary of State Blackwell is sending a loud and clear message that he is hiding something.

Let the recount proceed!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

32. Excellent and thanks for all of us -nt

[dmac]

24. Isn't this stretching the truth a bit?

"though repeated media investigations have shown no evidence supporting their claims."

What media investigation. Certainly the data is out there and if they aren't finding it, then perhaps they are not looking.

How can they tell such a blatant lie? It even makes me wonder if we are just dreaming all of the discrepancies and irregularities - so you know it makes those who aren't buying it to begin with completely dismiss it as a possibility. Perhaps that is the plan - so far it sure seems to be working, based on my experiences with people.

[Terre]

30. And this statement

You answer the questions and you provide explanations.

I don't recall hearing explanations for ANY of the irregularites. Have you?

Has Blockwell responded with any answers to the questions that Conyers asked in his letter? Haven't heard anything about that either.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

34. He has not answered any questions. Instead he had people arrested

for trying to ask him when he would answer them, and for trying to deliver copies of Conyers letter to him...

[sunnystarr]

31. Exactly!! Have those media investigations been held in secret??

Can someone point me to even ONE media investigation?? We have to call them on this blatant lie to readers and the American people. I just can't stand this anymore!!! I won't take it anymore!!!

[Buddyblazon]

36. This is interesting....

"... they insist, though repeated media investigations have shown no evidence supporting their claims."

So Carl...how much investigation did YOU actually do. Methinks that you did just about as much "investigating" as the rest of your ilk...NONE. You pulled a Fox..."some people say." you lazy fuck.

"I wrote it in the newspaper...so it MUST be true."

I'd love to see this guy...and give him a nice firm knee to the crotch.

"Investigate this...bitch."

[dmac]

38. He knows most people do have that

"I read it in the newspaper so it must be true" mentality - except of course when it espouses a view that is contrary to their beliefs and then it becomes "the liberal media". Ha. Maybe years ago but not for a long, long time.

Also, does there have to be a liberal press and a conservative press? Can't there just be someone who only prints the truth? I guess since truth is a matter of perspective, most will always see it one way or another.

I liked your comments and tempting though it may be, I don't suppose yours is the letter we should send to the editors . . .

[Buddyblazon]

44. Well here is the one I sent...

Dear Mr. Weiser,



I have a serious question for you the article you wrote “Electoral College today more than ritual”.



In that article, you wrote the following:



“they insist, though repeated media investigations have shown no evidence supporting their claims.”



I’ve been following this, and to this point have been pretty quiet for fear of being labeled as you put it, a “conspiracy theorist”.

My question is:



Of what media investigation are you speaking?



And with that initial question, several other surface in my head.:



Did YOU actually conduct investigations? Or is a “some people say” Fox moment? Do you know these people that did this investigating? Can you please direct me to their findings?



It is odd to me that all these “repeated media investigations” have never actually been reported to quiet the nay-sayers. With all this investigating taking place, why isn’t it reported? I know that if I had done ALL that investigating, I would want it made public. Don’t you? You spent all this time investigating. All of those late nights at the office and in the field…ahem…”investigating”. Work filled weekends. The wife and kids screaming, “Daddy…come home.”, and answering with, “Sorry little Billy, I have tons of INVESTIGATING to do.”.



Again I ask you to please release all of the findings that YOUR investigating has uncovered. You are obviously a tireless pitbull of a reporter that has spent many hours investigating. Well…show us your stuff.



Thank You,



(Buddyblazon)



P.S.

My Mother is a Weiser. Wouldn't that be something if we were related? Boy oh boy...its a small world. I could be related to an "investigative journalist". HOW EXCITING!

[dmac]

51. Excellent - and much more appropriate for print media.

But you can continue to entertain us with your less appropriate postings on DU. There is a need for both.

[Blue State Blues]

39. One of those "Repeated Media Investigations"

In its entirety ...

MSM Stenographer: Um. Secretary of State Blackwell, it seems that there are some lunatic activists -- I think they're also called "voters" -- and, er, gosh I don't want to sound like I'm insinuating anything, but it seems that they say there have been some, er irregularities with the election you ran. Can you answer these wild accusations in your official capacity as chair of the Bush/Cheney campaign -- oh, sorry I meant to say, as Secretary of State of Ohio?

SOS Blackwell: Irregularities? None here. No problems whatsoever. The election went smoothly. In fact, everything went exactly the way it was supposed to. Nope, nothing to see here, folks. Must be raving lunatics asking these questions.

END OF MEDIA INVESTIGATION.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

41. LOL!! Good job. Have to laugh or I'll cry -nt

[librechik]

55. File under" FLORIDA:Vote counted and counted and recounted "

Big Lies stuctural paradigm #83--that OH Vote has been investigated and investigated and all they found was a bunch of nuts.

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

[thanatonautos]

43. Sure, LoParo and his ilk have utter contempt for `We the People' ...

unless it's those people who agree with him. So they
feel free to say whatever they want.

It's clear enough what their thinking is. Here's hoping that
they'll be forced to eat their own words, even if it looks
like a long shot at the moment.

[pointsoflight]

46. My letter

Dear Mr. Weiser,

I read your article on today's meeting with great interest, but was hoping you could help clarify a couple of issues for me. Regarding the allegations of voting irregularities, you say that "repeated media investigations have shown no evidence supporting their claims." Could you please point me to the reports of such media investigations. I have been reading your paper regularly since the election and have not seen any reports of these investigations, other than a confirmation of the very suspect Warren County lockdown in which election officials contradicted the FBI in saying there was a high terrorist threat.

The other question I have is with regard to the quote from Carlo LaParo, the spokesman for Secretary of State Ken Blackwell. He says, "You answer the questions and you provide explanations. And yet these folks still don't believe you." My understanding is that the democrats on the House Judiciary Committee sent Blackwell a letter that included 39 questions. Nowhere have I seen Blackwell's reply to the Judiciary Committee letter, even though it was sent weeks ago. If you know of such a reply, I would be very interested to see a report on it. And if Blackwell has not written such a reply, how can his office possibly say they've been answering questions and providing explanations, when they haven't even replied to members of the House Judiciary Committee?

Regards,
xxxx

[pointsoflight]

47. For those sending letters, send a copy to the editor, too

[e-mail]

[katinmn]

53. Yeah, you have to send it to the editor

the reporter could just shit-can it.

[RevCheesehead]

56. ROTFLMAO!!!

"You get to the point where you essentially have to say, 'You know what? I prefer my nuts dry roasted. Thank you."

That is just too funny!

Who's gonna roast your nuts, Buddy Squirrel?

[Twist_U_Up]

8. schweeeeeeetttttttttt tell everyone you Know. nt

[katinmn]

11. Great! n/t

[fasttense]

13. When did the MSM do repeated investigations?

Through conspiracy or errors, (what I like to call FRAUD) Kerry's votes were not counted, they insist, though repeated media investigations have shown no evidence supporting their claims.

Did I miss something? Did the MSM actually get off their duffs and look into ten of thousands of voter complaints and found them all invalid. I must have been asleep or something.

[merh]

25. To answer simply - Never

Media (MSM) has never investigated, he is a liar and should be called on it. :argh:

[trudyco]

15. Let's start tracking the good guys from the bad on MSM

I'm really curious to see who still is a journalist and who isn't. Someday we'll clean up the ones who don't know how to report a story, even when it's not what their advertisers want to hear.

trudyco

[we can do it]

40. Reply from Josh Meyer LA Times

This is the response I got from Josh Meyer when I requested that he would please cover the new Conyers forum in Ohio on Monday, Dec. 13th

Thanks. Oh, and please tell me what you do for a living, so I can tell you how to do your job. Thanks!

:mad:

[katinmn]

42. What a complete jerk is Josh Meyer

I suppose he just sits and waits for press releases from the White House and "covers" those.

[goclark]

72. The circulation at the LATimes is way in the RED

I think I'll send him a letter to tell him that he is the reason that I canceled my subscription.

I'll also tell him to start looking for a job real soon and we'll tell him how to do that one too.

What a jerk!

[newyawker99]

48. Hi we can do it!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Stephanie]

16. Wooo hoooooo!!! That's fantastic.

Still not on the schedule, but I'm thrilled that they said they would cover it!

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp

[rumpel]

17. Thanks

[AmerDem]

22. They didn't say hearings

They said the electoral college. That is completely different than Conyor's voting fraud hearing.

[goclark]

35. I heard that the Electoral College was around 11:30 today

So this must be the Cpnyers's hearing at the later hour.

Please verify someone and start a thread!

We want to set our timers.

[katinmn]

37. Full c-span schedule

...I don't see the hearing, just the OH and other state electoral meetings. Probably just not updated yet. (fingers crossed)


Ohio Meeting of Electors
State Capitol
Columbus, Ohio (United States)
ID: 184766 - 12/13/2004 - 1:00 - NS
Ohio's Electoral College members will cast their votes -one for president and one for vice president in the state Senate Chambers.

Full C-Span Schedule
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp?timeid=211969652424

[AmerDem]

45. It's a delayed play of the electoral college

Like C-Span often does they tape shows for a later broadcast to fill their schedule.

[IAMREALITY]

50. I called C-Span And The Woman Said

The only broadcast she is aware of from Ohio is the electoral college at noon.

202) 737-3220

This seems to validate what you are saying.

[neversaynever]

64. EVERYONE CALL THIS NUMBER and tell them

you will now start boycotting their broadcasts -- that's what I just did.

202 737 3220

[McCamy Taylor]

23. oooo, prime time, bet W. bombs something at 430 est

[noclonyofthechimp]

27. Thanks for this!

[SueZhope]

29. any one on a laptop?

in Ohio........Please tell us what is going on
I thought the hearings started at 10:30?

HELP..

[kk897]

33. I'm in Ohio and on the CASE Ohio mailing list and I"m just as in the dark

as you are! It's driving me nuts! (dry roasted nuts, natch).

[henslee]

49. so what time will it show in CA 1:30 or 4:30?

[EFerrari]

54. Out here, 1:30 . But I listened & they said WA recount, not OH?

[EFerrari]

52. Now, really confused. I heard that WA contested election

would be aired during that time slot?

[henslee]

57. Grrrrrrr.

[Blue State Blues]

58. Kick n/t

[AmerDem]

59. C-Span wont be covering the hearing!

Read starting from post #22. They never mentioned the hearing at all. The only thing mentioned was the electoral college. Apparently it will also run at 4:30. Another poster in this thread actually called C-Span and it was confirmed the hearings are not on the schedule.

[IAMREALITY]

62. That Was Me

There was no doubt when I called this morning that they weren't broadcasting it.

Not sure why everyone has chosed to ignore our informative posts though, maybe they were just buried?

:shrug:

[Guarionex]

60. Thanks kerry!

Because he doesn't show up publicly to say something...nobody in the MSM or CSPAN is giving a care about these hearings....

THESE hearings are important..and need to be covered....LIVE...

I've lost faith in America.....no media, no care, no press, no nothing...and the damned link they provide (Radio Left) just went off...there's nothing more to hear!

[rumpel]

61. Just spoke to C-Span! They will not air the Conyers' hearing,

because "they do not have the money to send a crew to Ohio, for a hearing that they have covered extensively, last week."

[neversaynever]

63. say it ain't so. Really? I was at 22 minutes and counting

and how can they say they don't have a crew to send to OHIO, what about the crew that just covered the friggin electoral college vote? can't they "split up"

[rumpel]

65. quote is verbatim!

[neversaynever]

67. yeah, they just told me the same thing ....see post above

I think we should bombard them with phone calls telling them we will be boycotting their broadcasts as a result

[myschkin]

68. What about

the other cameras? Can't we get a tape? Can't they give C-Span a tape?

????

[rumpel]

69. They could, I presume, if the right holding organization provides

it.
Why do I feel that there is a massive blackout under way?
Am I loosing my marbles?
They only way this information is going to reach the masses is a protest a la Ukraine?
The congressmen and women at the hearing have to hold a press conference on this matter. Would the MSM's ignore this, too?

[genieroze]

70. At the same time as PeterEaterson's Verdict.

Gee I wonder which one the sheeples in this country will care about?
The death of a scumbag or the death of democracy.

[TrustingDog]

71. I and many others would prefer your nuts in a sling...

You get to the point where you essentially have to say, 'You know what? I prefer my nuts dry roasted. Thank you. "