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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:01 PM
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Cobb says TRIAD representative tampered with tabulator...
...ON FRIDAY.

This is from the live Election hearing in Comlumbus.

And that someone will be testifying to it, but will remain anonymous at the moment.

Conyers will immediately discuss it with Cobb in private.

OMG.

(heard this during the stream at Radio Left:

http://www.warpradio.com/player/player.asp?page=Tuner&id=13712&wmpVer=9&br=IE&os=win&country=&state=&city=&metroCode=473&latitude=&longitude=)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:02 PM
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1. Who's TRIAD?? n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:04 PM
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3. One of the voting machine companies.
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:07 PM
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8. thank you, Crispini, I was so upst I couldn't type...
I knew I'd leave something pertinent out of that post, LOL.
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:18 PM
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44. Triad runs the centeral tabulators for 41 punchcard counties
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:04 PM
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4. Triad
Is the company that runs the freaking CENTRAL tabulator for the county (if not the State!!) :wow:
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:12 PM
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11. OMG! n/t
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:03 PM
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2. I heard it, too...
I couldn't believe my ears.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:05 PM
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Oh to have a candidate with Cobb's courage
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Peak_Oil Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:18 PM
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17. You did. Cobb.
n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:05 PM
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30. But I threw away my vote on Kerry because he was "electable".
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:05 PM
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5. I feel something big coming! This info is huge!
Who was that man? Who sent him? This proprietary rule for the private company that owns these machines is the root of election fraud.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:06 PM
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6. Aren't Triads offices in Blackwell's office building? n/t
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ccarter84 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:00 PM
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28. that would be hilarious
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 01:01 PM by ccarter84
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:08 PM
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32. No, but in Xenia, OH...
TRIAD GOVERNMENTAL SYSTEMS INC
Address: 358 S MONROE ST
City: XENIA, OH 45385-3442

Contact: BRETT RAPP (PRESIDENT)
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:06 PM
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7. If they find the Triad rep involved
This will be the lead that is needed to unmask the fraud nation wide. They wont say if Cobb knows the name of the Triad rep openly but will hold off until a meeting is conducted after the open hearing.
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Darknyte7 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:10 PM
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9. This is a weighty charge...
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 12:11 PM by Darknyte7
I don't know much about Cobb, but this is the most direct & specific charge of fraud that I've heard to date.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:17 PM
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16. Cobb Is A Fairly Well-Spoken & Sober Individual
IMO
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:11 PM
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10. You are saying that Cobb said this last Friday. Correct? Or are you
saying the rep tampered with the tabulator last Friday?

Excuse me for sounding dense but I'm home sick with the flu and my brain is acting congested as well. :silly:
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:12 PM
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12. Perpetrated On Friday, Spoken at the Hearings This Morning. n/t
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:15 PM
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14. Thanks Reality!
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:46 PM
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22. sorry, yes, he said it live, I posted mins. after he spoke...
He was furious, too... his voice was raised pretty high while he was talking.

It's just outrageous.

Listening now to Joan Quinn, the woman who had the voting records snatched out of her hands in Greene County on Friday.

...just... freakin' unbelievable.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:52 PM
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23. Chili, sorry, I'm trying to understand. Is Cobb saying he has someone
that tampered with the votes who will testify that he did, or is Cobb saying he has someone who can testify that he knows someone who tampered with the voting machines?
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:53 PM
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25. He has someone who is from the BOE (I think)
who will testify that they saw someone tamper with the machines on Friday.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:55 PM
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26. Hmmm, don't know if that would still be concrete enough to prove fraud?
:shrug:
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:02 PM
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29. Well it sounds as if the guy walked in, took apart the machine
(computer?)- pulled parts from his jacket, and replaced the original parts. Then he requested that the BOE tell him the 3% precincts that would be recounted- and asked them to give him the totals needed to make it look right- he said to post the numbers on the wall so it looked like "staff notes." Conyers interrupted Cobb and said they needed to meet after the meeting.

Sounds pretty freekin' d*mning! :wow:
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:09 PM
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33. right, I had forgotten about the jacket pocket part...
...good grief.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:10 PM
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34. I KNEW they'd do THIS
I contacted the recount team (I'm scheduled to go to Ohio and start observing on Thursday) and TOLD THEM: BY LAW, we are allowed to have 3% RANDOM SAMPLES of the county's precincts and told them, MAKE SURE THEY ARE. In other words, FIND OUT HOW THEY ARE BEING RANDOMLY SELECTED, BY WHOM AND WHEN.

I figured someone would preselect the 3% and then fool around with the numbers to make it all "match up" with the reported tallies.

These people have had TOO MUCH TIME to screw around with the results and the machines. I knew it was fishy when Carole Garman said that "eveything would match up perfectly". THEY ARE CHEATING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS THING.

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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:49 PM
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41. I'll be in Ohio on Thursday as well. I remember your post. You called it.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:46 PM
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38. OMG! WTF! How does these people get away with this crap?!!! n/t
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:47 PM
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40. HOLY SHIT. That is unbelievable.
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wrate Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:49 PM
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47. Wow! No wonder this freepers consider recounts a waste of money!! n/t
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:07 PM
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31. Sorry, Texas Chick, I keep going back and forth, listening...
...yes, he has a witness who will testify that the Triad rep. came into the BoE office and took the machine apart. It happened on Friday, Greene County again (it was Greene County, again, wasn't it?)He didn't want to elaborate, in fact Conyers stopped him from elaborating too much.

Just heard why they're so freaked out about Greene County (I had never even heard of Greene County, though oddly, I've been there, LOL). It's the home of Central State U, which I once visited. It's a predominantly black college. These would be very high Kerry votes.

There are TWO issues with Greene County, then. (1) According to Joan Quinn, who was there when the records were "locked down," the registration records of the students had been tampered with, something about their addresses. (2) What Cobb was talking about: the tabulator was tampered with on Friday, which is a whole other issue.

NOW it makes sense.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:47 PM
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39. No problem. Thank you, Chili, for your reply. n/t
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:14 PM
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13. GEEZUZ!
OMG!! Keep em coming! Note to self, must calm down.. all will be ok. Go home, take a valium..
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Shalom Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:16 PM
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15. Why Not Contact Triad Directly: Here's the INFO....

http://www.xegc.org/spotlight/triad.htm

Triad Governmental Systems, Inc.
358 South Monroe St.
Ph 937-376-5445
Fax 937-376-3078
Email: brettrapp@triadgsi.com
URL: www.triadgsi.com

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:25 PM
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36. DON'T CONTACT ANYONE!
Leave this up to the lawyers. Not everything is a "grassroots action item". You'll just mess it up if you get involved.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:42 PM
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37. DO NOT CONTACT ANYONE.
Leave this to the professionals to deal with the vipers and their nests of deceit.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:22 PM
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18. This is good news that he got caught, but isn't it bad news that he may
have erased evidence or altered evidence that points to the fraudulant votes?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:32 PM
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19. Well, when we learn how he 'was caught'....
....we may also learn how many other county central tabulating center locations have been under surveillance.

One might imagine that because he 'was caught' that some folk anticipated the event.

Since the 'central tabulating centers' in each county in every State, especially all those showing deviation from 'exit poll' predicted behavior, one might imagine that folk would have had reason to watch activity at those centers.

Interesting.

Peace.

"When Did Bush Know?"
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:36 PM
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21. I wouldn't contact Triad..
the guy who did the swapping might "disappear".
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:35 PM
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20. the good news is he got caught
the bad news is MSM will conveniently "forget" to mention this, and keep calling those who question the results in america "dissidents"

how unpatriotic of us to want votes to count.

i do not see a snowballs chance in hell that the corrupt neocon regime is about to give up the throne, no matter how many people get caught cheating the results.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:52 PM
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24. I know what you mean peacebird
They are so hungry to put the big padlock on the iron bars, aren't they!?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:58 PM
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27. It's not the crime, it's the cover-up
At this point it's more important that we catch the criminals, expose the fraud and jail the guilty, than anything else. I'm glad they were caught in the act, even if we lose that evidence. Caught RED-HANDED!
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:22 PM
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45. The coverup IS a CRIME too
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:28 PM
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49. The machine will bear the signs of tampering
computer forensics experts can find stuff: bad dates on files, missing data, inconsistencies, etc.

The plotters are frightened out of their wits and taking crazy chances now!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:23 PM
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35. Kick
:kick:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 01:51 PM
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42. rough transcript posted
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:11 PM
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43. wow
and kick

:wow:
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:47 PM
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46. kick
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BreakForNews Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:23 PM
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48. Cobb Allegations News Report --with Audio-- for Alternative media
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 03:39 PM by BreakForNews
Here's the Cobb Allegations (with audio )
for circulation into Alternative Media.
We are facing information warfare.
Consider this an Exocet missile. : )

House Judiciary Ohio Forum
Hears of Recount Fraud Plans


By Fintan Dunne, Editor
http://www.BreakForNews.com
13 December 2004 : 1pmET

The House Judiciary Cmte., meeting in Columbus, Ohio to investigate presidential election vote irregularities in the state, has heard evidence that preparations to conduct a fraudulent recount are underway statewide.

In early testimony, chairman of the forum, Rep. John Conyers heard from Green party presidential candidate, David Cobb that employees of punch card vendor, Triad Governmental Systems, Inc. (Triad GSI) are attempting to orchestrate a fraudulent recount of the 3 percent of precincts likely to be included in the first phase of the recount process.

Cobb cited one case detailed by an --as yet anonymous-- informant, that a Triad GSI employee had told staff at the Columbus County Board of Elections office to inconspicuously note a prepared recount result, then report this data irrespective of the actual recount. The Triad GSI representative had also tampered with Triad voting equipment in the offices.

"This is going on, all over the state," Cobb told the hearing.

AUDIO OF COBB RECOUNT FRAUD CHARGES: (mp3)
http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/audio/InsideTrackNews041213_3pm.mp3

FULL REPORT CONTINUES:
http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/OhioForumDec13Report1.htm

Fintan Dunne, Editor
http://www.BreakForNews.com
13 Dec. 2005 @ 1pmET

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:34 PM
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50. Your second link doesn't work
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BreakForNews Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:50 PM
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51. Fixed it Thanks! n/t
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:58 PM
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52. the smoking gun is bursting into flames...
this is unmitigated gall and blatent fraud by Triad...

When Blackwell was smiling today, he must not have heard about it! :evilgrin:
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senegal1 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:44 PM
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53. WOW incredible! Thanks for links. All worked.
I just sent this as an email to a couple of people.
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:45 PM
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54. kick n/t
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