OK THEN......FUCK EM

[George W. Hayduke]

read "The Monkey Wrench Gang" by Edward Abbey

see you in the forest.

[Straight Shooter]

1. Well, cheeit! I thought this was a post about Kerry's Kids

The organization started by that bright young girl. I thought she was making a statement about the tainted election.

Bummer. :(

[seito]

4. lol ... Me too

[George W. Hayduke]

8. It is called Kerry's Kids because we are

the Kids.

Moreover, this speaks to those that need some political maturity and lack political history, AS WELL AS THOSE WHO CAN TEACH THE YOUNGER GENERATION (THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH WATERGATE, ETC.).

[meganmonkey]

13. You're in for quite a thread here.

Good luck! :hi:
I give you this support now, because I doubt I'll have the patience to help defend you later.

[Higans]

36. Is E-Voting ME-Voting? Prove it!

We know when we have been gyped by technology. It's so obviouse it's sickening.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Instant Gratification.

You know, I have been thinking just those words a LOT. I have just not known how to flesh them out, into a post, without getting mangled.

You done better than me, friend.

[New Earth]

3. i understand your point

but i think you should change the title.

you are asking us to be 'mature' when you are not doing so yourself.

[meganmonkey]

5. Do you know what forum you're in?

You're being far too reasonable for this crowd :P

Well put, though!!

[Starlight]

6. I don't think I would use the word "reasonable."

Rude & condescending would be more accurate. :eyes:

[crispini]

7. Mommy posts.

:eyes:

[jhgatiss]

12. Exactly!

I personally love the ebb and flow of the discussion here. It seems very organic.

[BoomerSoonerOKU]

9. I agree...

playing on the name of a very worthwhile cause isn't showing much tact.

[lizzieforkerry]

10. If we are not sending emails directly to you, why do you care?!

Having known many people in the investigative reporting business, any tip is a good tip, even if it is unsubstantiated. It is their JOB to substantiate things.

Having known many lawyers, any info for them to investigate is worth investigating. They will have more contacts, talk to more people and LEARN more things.

The MSM has a calculation that for every email or call they receive on a story there is x number of people that are interested in that story. Why should we be silent?

As far as other threads, I agree that multiple threads are annoying, but they are going by lightneing fast and they are easy to miss. If info is buried in the response to a thread sometimes it is helpful if a whole new thread is started on it. More people can jump in, etc.

[George W. Hayduke]

22. Tips are good...

but they are only tips. I have known many tips to lead nowhere, UNTIL the tip has substance.

Lawyers only take on what can be substantiated. Investigation requiers something that can be substantiated in order to start.

Why do we need to think before blasting the MSM? Because hundreds of emails accusing "X" of doing "Y" means nothing without sources. Otherwise, the MSM brushes it off as "Tin-Foil" and we all know what happens when you cry WOLF too many times.

[SueZhope]

11. In a perfect world

in a perfect forum everyone might follow along and say and do it perfectly.
Give people a break , most people have good intentions who come here.
I don't think its reasonable of you to have such high expectations. This kind of post
might scare away well meaning people who have allot to offer. Your entitled to your
thoughts but, Democracy comes in all shapes & sizes.

I think that its important to show some tolerance of peoples imperfections.

[Patsy Stone]

14. Well, if we're just bitching to bitch

It isn't THE Ukraine, it's Ukraine.
Olbermann has an "L" and two "N"s.
I hate people who drive 50 in the fast lane.
It's too cold.

:)

[SueZhope]

15. Ha Patsy

Great to see you here!!!
is this ok...Can I say hi to Patsy?

[Patsy Stone]

18. Hey you!

Hi. Screw 'em if they don't like it. It's never wrong to be sociable. :)

[WritersBlock]

24. Can I say hi to Patsy, too?

(And ask if you got an answer to that e-mail?) :)

[Patsy Stone]

29. Nary a peep...

Curiouser and Curiouser. I'm not sure about the addy, but it didn't come back. Maybe she thinks I'm a kook. Sometimes, *I* think I'm a kook. :)

[WritersBlock]

35. Typical..

Can't say I'm surprised, unfortunately, from my experience with them. Ah well. Could still happen.

[Patsy Stone]

37. Maybe

she'll ask to meet me in a DC parking garage. :)

[crispini]

20. ROTFLMAO!

Hahahahahahahaha!

Funniest thing I've read all night. :hi: Hi Patsy!

Wait, you said Olbermann! :loveya:

[bleever]

28. And, I hate messages designed to demoralize and dishearten...

when my government's already doing such a good job at it.

:)

[Patsy Stone]

32. Somebody say, Amen!

So what if they get too many e-mails? They can throw them out. Who knows what we're sending them? Any one of us could hold the key to something. Any of us could have a theory that pans out. Would it be better if we sent it snail mail? That's what we used to do. I think it's activism.

I see the point of the post, it could make us look silly. It also makes us a force to reckon with. If we can have 1000s of e-mails sent on a moment's notice, we're a powerful entity. If Elizabeth Edwards posts here, I think we've got some street cred. Power to the People.

[George W. Hayduke]

47. ya got a point there

sweets.....

[ClintCooper2003]

16. Good points, but the number-crunching stuff can be posted without worry.

[whistle]

17. Sounds like an El Rush-bow circular analysis GWH. . .

. . . You are damn right this stuff is serious, stealing an election serious, that's real serious!

Here on Du were have the right to post anything that is plausible and worthy of further discussion and inspection and investigation. This is a free speech Blog Site and we let the poster bare the responsibility of choosing wisely and the accountability of being able to defend what they have posted by attracting other posters who will support or refute the claims. Then the original poster can share in the satisfaction of having uncovered a blatant lie or retract what is exposed as a fraud.

That is the way it works here and just in case things get a little testy or feisty, we have our moderators who referee and make the ultimate call on any dispute or flagrant deception. Free speech, just like a fresh cool wind blowing in from the mountain tops. Could just build up to be a hurricane that will sweep away the fraudulent pretender to the throne and allow a real leader to be installed.

[Amaya]

19. This oughta go well

:)

[Erika]

21. I'm glad it's about Kerry Kids

I thought it might have contrasted them to the Bush daughter Bimbos. New flash, Jenna may teach school at a private charter school. Her arrests did not qualify her for teaching in public schools so she looked elsewhere. I guess private schools aren't as fussy about the morals of their teachers.

[DemGa]

23. Carry on, then n/t

[berni_mccoy]

25. What the?

I thought I was on www.freerepublic.com for a moment.

[jdog]

26. George.

1. We have too many lawyers trying to run things, and being a little too careful about every little thing they do and say.

2. Timely is relative. Threads oftentime come and go very quickly. Maybe you don't work. I do. And because I work sometimes I might miss a story. And since this is my only REAL source of news, I don't mind if a story gets repeated - that way EVERYONE gets to see it.

3. We're dealing with a LOT of unsubstantiated stuff here - - in fact that's the reason it is here. So it can get flushed out and figured out. No one else is doing it - am I right?

4. I don't have time to check out every GD thread that's been posted.

5. The "professionals et al" have had control over my life long enough - and look at the mess they've made.

You want things a little too neat and tidy George, and quite frankly, I'm not in the mood!

[lakeguy]

27. hey, where are the pics of kerr's kids?

i've been dissenfreedomfrenched!!!

[GetTheRightVote]

31. If Kerry were here would he hug us and tell us everything will be ok

then I woke up from the dream ...........

[TexasChick]

33. "dissenfreedomfrenched"! ROFLMAO!! If that isn't the funniest word! n/t

[crispini]

30. How RUDE.

Editing your post to make everyone on the thread look like a jackass.

Yeah, we're REALLY going to listen to you NOW. What a complete and total ass.

[Patsy Stone]

34. Charming...Simply Charming. n/t

[George W. Hayduke]

38. seriously

there is no political solution.........

take to the trees.

[George W. Hayduke]

39. or whats left of 'em

Anarchism is founded on the observation that since few men are wise enough to rule themselves, even fewer are wise enough to rule others.
Edward Abbey

[George W. Hayduke]

40. tyranny

No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets.
Edward Abbey

[George W. Hayduke]

41. growth

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.
Edward Abbey

[George W. Hayduke]

42. trails

May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds.
Edward Abbey

[George W. Hayduke]

43. science

That which today calls itself science gives us more and more information, and indigestible glut of information, and less and less understanding.
Edward Abbey

[George W. Hayduke]

44. wilderness

The idea of wilderness needs no defense, it only needs defenders.
Edward Abbey

[George W. Hayduke]

45. Sequoia's...what the hell do we need sequoia's for???

What is the purpose of the giant sequoia tree? The purpose of the giant sequoia tree is to provide shade for the tiny titmouse.
Edward Abbey

[Krakowiak]

46. I'll See You and Doug Peacock at Yellowstone (nt)

[merh]

48. Why read it? Looks to me like you just posted the entire book

here. :silly:

[Straight Shooter]

49. LOL. But then again ...

Come on, let's give the guy a break.

Remember, only Repubs attack the messenger if they don't like the message. And perhaps it could have been delivered in a more DU-like manner, but what the hell.

Now, I don't want anyone running up and whacking me up the side of my head, 'kay? :P

[merh]

51. Definitely not attacking the messenger

Just trying to figure out what the message has to do with the presidential election. :wtf: Actually, I just don't get the message. I don't think I will be seeing the messenger in the forest.

Don't chimps hang out in the trees?

[Starlight]

52. When he delivers an arrogant & condescending message...

the messenger deserves to be attacked. :spank:

[zimba]

50. Hey Hayduke, funny

you should mention that. Im reading it for the second time, first time was in the 70s. Its amazing how insightful Abbey was back then about the issues that continue to plaque us. Plus he's such a great author.

Just call me Doc.