Evil Harris Twins (Katherine and Bev)

[Wiley50]

This is a re-post from the BBV website (at least until Bev sees and deletes it.
Forgive me Mods( if I'm doing anything wrong ) I donated money and countless hours,I rationalized being totally ignored, But doing this to Andy> I just can't take her S**T any more.
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Wiley White
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Dec-14-04, 09:18 PM (PST)

"Evil Harris Twins (Katherine and Bev)"

God_bush_n_cheney (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-14-04 10:23 PM
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107. I just want to hop on this thread and thank....

everyone out there who has called, DU mailed, emailed and/or posted support to this thread.

I would just like to formally state...that the first time I heard of this action by the board of directors was when a fellow activist emailed me and told me to look at the Black Box Voting Web site a few minutes ago. It is regrettable that Ms. Harris has not returned the dozens of phone calls I have placed to her in the past 5 days.

I appreciate that I have been off of the radar screen for the past couple of weeks. My beloved sister Janice passed away on Nov 30th 2004 after a long battle with sarcoidosis and I went to Texas to be with my family.

My greatest sadness at this moment comes from the fact that if Ms Harris was so dissatisfied with my work that she contemplated taking this action particularly in such a public, inaccurate, and humiliating way, that she would have done so a month ago when I asked for and was denied leave to go home for a few days to visit my sister and say goodbye. My family had learned at that time that, Jan would not live to see Christmas and that if I wished to visit her one last time while she lived it needed to be then but my contribution to Black Box Voting was deemed so critical that I was denied leave for those few days. Yet here I am now very publicly unemployed.

I will not post any further on this matter this evening and I hope you will understand. I will be exploring my options over the next few days. With gratitude and love for all your support...

Sincerely,
Andy







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[wtmusic]

1. BBV entering tailspin...

Mayday! Mayday!!!

[slutticus]

2. Well, I've met Andy personally...

...and all I can say is that he seemed to be a hard working, intelligent, kind and dedicated person. Very dedicated. Anyone who would so carelessly cast aside a valuable person like this cannot be sane.

[greatauntoftriplets]

5. Andy is a good friend of mine and everything you say is correct.

A woman who gets pissed off with someone who has to take time to attend his beloved sister's funeral definitely is not sane.

[Pastiche423]

3. It's been deleted

[grasswire]

4. I am sympathetic to all parties...

...but I wish to God that everyone could stop using public spaces to communicate the painful messages. It's so, so damaging to the urgent cause.

Please stop. Find a mediator. Please stop.

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. People do need to hear both sides of the story

and since Bev continues to make it a public issue, then the other side deserves to have equal time to explain themselves.

I think people need to see what Bev really is all about. Let her discredit herself, so that she is no longer associated with all the other good and honest people trying to get to the bottom of this election fraud issue. People need to know the difference.

[WyLoochka]

12. A mediator cannot help

when one party is afflicted with Borderline Personality Disorder, which the public, two year history of Bev indicates strongly. Only a really really good shrink has a shot at that. It's a tough job that takes a very long time.

Really - check it out - do some research into BPD.

[RevCheesehead]

16. You are absolutely right!!!

I worked with someone with BPD who kept "firing" everyone whenever they disagreed with his "master-plan." I was in a higher position, (as the associate pastor), and finally confronted him. To cut it short, I ended up getting placed on leave for 3 months, until I got a new pastoral appointment. Let's just say that Andy's story resonates with me, and I truly feel for him.

One of our members was a licensed counselor. He's the one who pointed out to me that he was a "classic BPD" case. And the more I read about the projection, blaming others, micro-managing, and so on, the more I was convinced.

From reading the Bev threads tonight, I knew something seemed familiar. Thank you for pointing it out. It makes sense, and I would not be surprised to see Bev have a very public meltdown. And remember, when BPD's have a meltdown, they try to take as many people with them as possible. Andy's public sacrifice is one of the signs that her meltdown will probably happen very soon.

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[righteous1]

8. I'll tell you what's wrong

We have systematically watched this women alienate just about everyone who's anyone involved in this cause. ie Olbermann, Rhodes, DU etc etc. She appears to be either a nacissistic egomaniac or dumb as a post(likely the former). It's not about the work we have been doing, it's about her, and has been from the beginning. She obviously doesn't care about who she hurts or what she has to do to achieve "her" goals. You state that the board made the decision, not her. Well if you believe that the board would blow their nose without her explicit approval I have a bridge in Manhattan I would like to sell you. You can keep riding this BBV self serving disingenuous bandwagon if you like, I for one am getting off.

[MrUnderhill]

9. Ohhhhhh! It was the BOARD! What was I thinking?

I believe the CEO of Enron had the same argument.

Pretty gullible actually. Bev obviously runs the show over there.

[IAMREALITY]

14. And You Deserve Bev

SHE IS AS EVIL AS BUSH!

[Carl Brennan]

10. Oh boy, you are a real mover and shaker there Wiley

Wow!. You come out of nowhere never done a goddamn thing and start slamming Bev Harris. You know nothing!

[Wiley50]

11. I am sitting on the data from my SOE

I requested it at Bev and Katherine's instructions. I requested it in the name of BBV.
I can't DO anything with it. I'm not an auditor. I flunked algebra 1 twice.
They told me to just get it and they would do something with it. I put up my name in my county and twisted the arm of my Supervisor of Elections in the name of BBV to get it. I've been trying to get Bev to return my phone calls for 6 weeks now.
Then, my frustrartion wound up to the max, my partner called, she answered and tore him a new one.
Then she shows her ass, not just to Olbermann, but to Randi.
And then she does this to Andy.
No. I wasn't here for what went down with her on DU (but, I've read the threads).
I have actual personal problems with her.

But, I'm done.
Last night I was pissed. Now it's time to move on.

[mattclearing]

13. Wow. It'll be interesting to see how she spins this one.

eom

[IAMREALITY]

15. Andy, God Bless You and Hang In There n/t