Regarding Andy Stephenson, Bev Harris and Randi Rhodes

[Must_B_Free]

Here is what I recall:

Randi told Bev that Andy Stephenson was no longer working with her.

Bev was surprised to hear this.

Bev calls the directors who ALL jointly decide to nix Andy Stephenson.

Now Bev is the "sinner" according to David Allen who delights in holding up her "sin" for all to see and pass judgement.

Oh yeah and Andy Stephenson knows Delmart "Mike" Vreeland of 123 No Credibility Drive, Bullshitville USA. Says Vreeland called him from jail when he got arrested most recently.

Do I have that right?

[Bushfire]

1. what good is this post? are you adding anything to the anti BBV effort

besides gossip here? As far as I know, Andy is still in good standing with DU. Did I miss anything?

[Pastiche423]

2. No

[tandem5]

3. [reply deleted before it was created due to lack of interest]

[Psyop Samurai]

4. LOL - I was trying to piece those things together myself...

I can't quite put my finger on it, but somewhere there's a piece that doesn't fit.

:freak:

[symbolman]

5. IS that Vreeland's real address?

Because he called me last week and said that the Martians had him in THEIR jail..

now, I THINK that jail may be on Mars itself, or it could be in Cuba, but I want to be sure so I don't look stupid.. :)

[SomthingsGotaGive]

6. Although you have very little credibility on the issue...

Due of course to your breathless support of Bev.

I think we may be best served if we assume Andy Has been an active member of BBV.org for a long time.

I think BBV.org could be phony through and through.

What better way to keep a mole among us than to ostracize Andy very publicly so we all feel sorry for him.

I'm not buying anything or anyone closely related to Bev.

[Must_B_Free]

10. Fact correction

"Due of course to your breathless support of Bev."

Ironically, I think I was the FIRST person to attack Bev, going way back to her appearance.

My feeling at that time was that she came on DU and quickly started orchestrating the activities of people. I felt that the direction to download the Diebold source code was potentially dangerous in that it could open DU members to legal jeopardy.

Bev explained that away to my satisfaction . That, and the passion of others convinced me that she was legitimate. Also I felt that I had observed enough accomplishments in regards to BBV that vindicated her.

One interesting note is that BBV all went to Florida, when the real prize was in Ohio, although maybe it was good to have two fronts open. I think they were comfortable in Fla because they knew their way around there from the post 2000 investigation.

[jmatthan]

7. Directors of BBV called for oversight of elections

but it appears that Bev Harris and Black Box Voting, which has taken money due to support given to it by many liberal media personnel, neither wants to keep those self-same media personnel informed nor want oversight of its own activities and how that money was accounted for!!

A very very sad situation as all the posts that brought out anything that showed Bev Harris needed to realign her position have been removed from her forums, including much friendly advice from me.

In my humble opinion if that sort of attitude continues, the work of Bev harris will cease to be credible and will not even get 2 c ents of air time in the liberal media and probably zilch in the MSM!!

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

[hlthe2b]

8. Sadly, this all has the feel of watching a train wreck in slow motion...

I take no pleasure from anyone's downfall and even less for the loss of credibility this may have to a cause more critically important than any of us.

[Must_B_Free]

9. I agree

the credibility is waning severely.

the question is why?

- honest infighting of inflated egos?
- intentinal deception by external operatives who joined BBV to sabotage it?
- the movement itself was a red herring?

hard to tell.