Broken Acorn
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:04 PM
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Why are there no new developments today?! Just seems werid. |
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It seems like after yesterday, there should be more information coming out. Yet all we are talking about is that crook that was on RR last night and WNYC this morning.
Yes, the WP and NYT put in print problems about Ohio, but no new developments yet.
Just seems weird after Arnebeck filed the lawsuit on Monday. I would think more and more stories would be coming out by now this week.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:05 PM
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1. There was a story in today's New York Times. |
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:06 PM
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2. Yes, NYT reported stuff from Monday |
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about Triad employee etc. But we are now on Wed. and I would think that stuff would be breaking news by now with more people coming forward.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:07 PM
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3. Pretty dull day so far... |
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I keep getting on du hoping for a development, but nothing big yet.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:10 PM
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4. I Sense We are at Equilibrium.... |
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Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 03:10 PM by Shalom
and need a push one way or another to get to the infamous "tipping point":
1. There is so much information suggestion fraud, and pretty much demonstrating suppression of voting, as to outrage those who lean to the left
2. There is not absolute hard evidence of fraud, at least not of the degree to potentially overturn the election.
Unfortunately, this is not a good state for those who demand change, since the fascist repigs will be all too happy to run out the clock.
Just my opinion.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:57 PM
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20. overturning the election is not the purpose, fair elections is the purpose |
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We can not win the next one with out fair elections, if things dont change we will be better off with Saddam and president..
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:12 PM
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5. calm before the storm? |
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:13 PM
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:16 PM
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7. The evidence is everywhere |
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Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 03:18 PM by Broken Acorn
Holy crap, the evidence brought forth so far could be used in court to prove fraud. Arnebeck's legal challenged (which I've read from cover to cover) should be front page news in every newspaper in the country.
This was huge news! Triad was huge news; it doesn't take 3 hours to replace a CMOS battery!
Yet today, when you would think the shit would finally hit the fan with more stories coming out throughout the day, there is only silence.
No new developments. I wonder if that suicide (murder) in Sacramento with that journalist who cover the cocaine drug trafficking might have sent a clear message to all journalists to keep their lips tight.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:46 PM
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16. Do you have a link to the legal challenge? I've been out a day |
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:20 PM
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8. The wheels have finally started moving. Both politically and legally |
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Yesterday marked the day that the story started making MSM rounds, however small. Remember how far we have come! If there was nothing to fuss about we wouldn't be here, obviously. Like REALITY has been saying, put your faith in yourselves rather than places like the media, or Democrats.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:30 PM
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11. I keep saying this... |
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When the people that are driving this train want the media attention, they will have it. We have so many celebrities that could make this front page, if they were asked. I am not going to get bent out of shape over not seeing this on television...yet.
I believe this is the calm before the storm.. The Times has taken a bite, and so has the Washington Post. FAUX is already flogging our people. All indication are that this story is about to blow wide open.
Facts and evidence are the best counter to spin. Remember, we now have until Jan 6.
Keep the Faith
No Retreat No Surrender
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:25 PM
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Wasn't Arnebeck's suit to be heard today? Thought I read that somewhere.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:27 PM
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so far we hadn't even heard whether or not it was going to be heard :shrug: :(
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:33 PM
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12. I think it was to be FILED today n/t |
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:38 PM
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15. no it was filed on Monday |
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you're thinking of last week, when he was saying it was gonna filed last wednesday.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:34 PM
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13. Reports are one thing. Where all this is going is another. |
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KO today paints a picture of Conyers as not being a tin-foil-hatter.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:36 PM
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Phase one: Ignore -maybe it will go away. Phase two: Discredit Phase three: Lie Phase four: Cleanup the mess with threats and bodily harm
This is phase one.
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:54 PM
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19. Actually, we are in phase 2 and 3 n/t |
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:49 PM
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17. In the meantime, check out this thread re: Ohio Supreme Court |
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Wed Dec-15-04 03:52 PM
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18. in the middle of the night, CBS News - tv! - covered it! a large story, |
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repeated each news hour. talked about Conyers, Jackson, Arnebeck's suit, voting "irregularities"... and more. they even acknowledged that * might not have actually won Ohio.
added ohio courts would decide some of it by friday.
it was huge, and had vanished by morning. but i figure they had reason for opening the story in the pre-dawn hours. seeping out, getting people ready to hear it?
peace!
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Wed Dec-15-04 04:08 PM
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21. I remember someone insinuating several weeks ago |
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that because of the enormous cover up of the 9/11 scandal, with numerous gov't officials being involved, that perhaps the election fraud would be put on the back burner.
And, yesterday I notice an interesting thread in the Homeland Security Forum. Apparently several lawsuits have been filed since end of Oct. 04 re: implicating the gov't in 9/11. If you read the one posted by Philip Berg of PA (237 pages) you will find on pg.4 that he is also claiming "the enterprise has engaged in a conspiracy to commit election fraud" and he is bringing the suit against the entire Bush Co. as well as Diebold, Walden O'Dell, ES&S, Sequoia etc. You must check this out!!
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Wed Dec-15-04 04:23 PM
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24. thank you for that info, Quakerfriend. yes, all intertwined. |
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do you have links to read those?
i can see why it all must come out in cautious, measured steps.
peace!
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Wed Dec-15-04 04:16 PM
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22. lots of MSM coverage so expect more whistles tomorrow, esp Triad... |
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...Mystery Mike sightings. I expect at least one other person will come forward and say that someone from Triad messed with the machines at their precinct and gave them some numbers, too.
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Wed Dec-15-04 04:17 PM
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23. It's snowballing. The more coverage, the more info surfaces, the more... |
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interest develops. This will be the story of the year by the time we're done with it.
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Wed Dec-15-04 04:24 PM
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25. This is like turning an aircraft carrier with a tugboat. It will take time |
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Many days will pass where discouraging news will predominate. The supposition is that Bush will be inaugurated on January 20th, much like when Nixon brushed aside the initial press reports of Watergate and was inaugurated amongst great fanfare... only to be removed by an energized electorate when the true nature of his crimes became apparent.
So stay engaged. And keep pounding on the bow.
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