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progressiveboston Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:52 PM
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Raw Story Posting an update

COBB, KERRY ADD RECOUNT TAMPERING TO CIVIL SUIT VS. OHIO, BLACKWELL...
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http://rawstory.com/exclusives/kerry_ohio_suit_1215.php
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:55 PM
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1. They are adding election tampering to the suit.
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Wednesday, December 15, 2004
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The lawyers for Green presidential candidate David Cobb and Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, along with Kerry-Edwards 2004 have added election tampering to a civil suit filed against the state of Ohio over problems with the state's recount, RAW STORY has learned.

The suit, detailed here, alleges that a manufacturer of voting machines, Triad Election Systems, which serves 43 counties in the state, is tampering with the recount. It is unclear exactly what recourse the plantiff's seek; the filing adds on to an orginal suit to have the recount take place before Ohio electors meet, which failed in the courts. Green Party spokesman Blair Bobier did not respond to immediate calls for comment.

Developing: U.S. House Judiciary staffer speaks out on investigation, suit...

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:14 PM
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8. Now that TRIAD has a dog in the fight
how do they stay "impartial" during the recount? TRIAD will have to mount a defense against the accusations. Very interesting!
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:15 PM
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22. So if they cannot find the supposed tech guy..
Will Triad have to cough him up? Wouldn't you love to be a fly on his wall tonight when he is talking to the people who directed him to do all of this...is he going to take one for the team or will we be seeing an affidavit from him soon, also?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:30 PM
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14. Election tampering has such a nice, prosecutorial ring to it
:thumbsup:
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 06:56 PM
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2. Exceedingly cool
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:00 PM
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3.  I would love to read the computer expert's report they attached!
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 07:01 PM by Alizaryn
Thanks for the link! (Was nice to see the names Kerry/Edwards on it.)
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:08 PM
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4. It's coming...
Just a bitch to break down the pages. Keep watching...
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:17 PM
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9. Nice. Thank you.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:08 PM
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5. It is time to demand a handcount!
There has been WAY too much bullcrap already. I don't trust the result because of the illegal activity that has taken place.

Machine "count" = coverup.
Hand count = transparency.

THAT is what they should be requesting!

It is time for the Recounters and the Investigators (Arnebeck, Bonifaz, et al.) to join forces and file for an immediate statewide hand recount of every ballot.
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:10 PM
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7. did I miss it
or did the suit really not include the line "we are not trying to change the outcome of this election"
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:50 PM
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19. Good question, I didn't see that either. n/t
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:29 PM
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13. recount vs. revote
A hand recount statewide is better than a 3% recount that may already be compromised by the actions of the company tabulates 41 counties in Ohio, Triad.

But, a recount, no matter how good, will not recapture the votes of those who left because of long lines in mainly Democratic precincts.

A complete revote is justified in any fair world. It would also only take prep time, plus one day to vote. Presumably quicker than the hand count.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:10 PM
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6. Man, they don't play. They are going to own Blackwell when
it's all said and done.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:20 PM
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10. Instead of marching I will be dancing in the streets of DC

Happy Day, Happy Day, they are going for it and getting the bad guys, hurray.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:24 PM
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11. Like Kerry
I'm kickin' this beeeeyotch up!

I don't say handcount.....I say RE-VOTE. All of the worlds eye on Ohio. Every single polling station being filmed and recorded. I know we had alot of people on the ground this time, but we KNOW what to look for.....anyone presses the button for Kerry and it comes up Bush....you raise your freakin' hand on camera and say excuse me, but this machine is stealing my vote. And most importantly...you get a paper receipt.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:43 PM
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18. Ya know with all the long lines bull...
Coupled with all this crap a Re-vote isn't a bad idea. DOubt it happens, but I'd love to see it.

-Hoot
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:28 PM
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12. KICK--- :)) NT
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:31 PM
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15. Two threads, but great story!
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:31 PM
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16. Thanks for the update
Raw Story does a great job.
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MRKARNO Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:31 PM
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17. Hey if this is unresolved, will Kerry be the Senator who contests?
Why can't he contest the results of the election himself? Why does some other senator have to do it? I think there's a decent chance he might in a show of strength and to prove the point that "every vote will count" and since there is suspicion that they wont (even Based on what what the MSM has gotten) and the recount will proceed in an unfair manner, he has decent grounds to contest the election himself
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:58 PM
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21. It better be one of the dem senators or they will lose a huge
constituency-progressives.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:54 PM
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20. more and more.......
"little drops of water, little grains of sand"
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:32 PM
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23. But wait, there's more... new info on rawstory n/t
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