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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:31 PM
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Conyers coming up on KO now
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:33 PM
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1. conyers had asked FBI to step in but KO insinuated there might be a
simple explanation for some of the discrepensies
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:35 PM
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2. "inappropriate and ? behavior in OHIO--Conyers asked the FBI
Rests on an avidatent
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:38 PM
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4. Conyers has not heard from the FBI yet. Conyers does not know if it
was only maintence that was done by Triad. This maintainance would then only count presidental votes.
KO asked if it was indeed only maintainance--would that decrease your credibility? Conyers talked of tens of thousands of complaints.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:37 PM
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3. You might want to check this...
...Professor of Computer Science Douglas Jones asserts in his affidavit that Triad Election Systems' visits to local Board of Elections compromises the credibility and integrity of the Ohio recount.

Affidavit posted by Raw Story at:

http://rawstory.com/exclusives/programmer_1215.php

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:41 PM
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All of Conyers work has been out of the mainstream thus far. SHOULD
not Conyers and another Senator challenge the election (make it mainstream). Conyers talking about listening to the people and their complaints--we have a duty to do this. Then said Republicans did not do their duty of listening to the people!! Good for him!!
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:56 PM
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13. Yes! I emailed Doug Jones twice last week and then asked Ray Beckerman
to ask him to get involved!
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:41 PM
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5. He (JC) listing "irregularities", 'not accidental'
KO playing devil's advocate (good) "is there constitutional challenge available?" Conyers: "thousands & thousands want to tell story"..."make vote sacred & managable for Am. people, not Dem vs Reps, how do we fix the 92000 uncounted ballots...folks complaining to congress, Reps refuse to help out..." well it's over now. Tried to watch & type. :eyes:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:42 PM
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6. There was something about KIng county --can look at the ballots but no
decision yet reached. I did not catch it all. Did anyone?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:47 PM
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8. I didn't catch it, but there's no King Co. in Ohio, may be Washington
...
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:53 PM
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12. Yes, Washington. King County's uncounted ballots
may tip the governor's race there.
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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:45 PM
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7. Hmm he not coming off so well
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 08:47 PM by mulethree
Words not coming very easily

What if the FBI determines the Triad techs are just doing innocent maintenence?

Right answer - why are their techs instructing elections officials how to coax the 'preffered answer' out of the recount instead of a straight honest machine count?

Conyers missed it.

He could have done much better, has at the hearings.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:49 PM
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9. he was up very early this am to be on Democracy NOW plus heard
he was on another talk show today. He looked tired!!
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:51 PM
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10. Yeah, unfortunately he's not the best extemporaneous speaker...
but that may simply be reflective of the mindset of liberal/progressive people who actually do 'nuance' rather than blast off some absolute certainty like ChimpCo types do...

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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:53 PM
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11. he's tired.
Hard to pick careful words when your exhausted.
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