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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:18 AM
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Psychic Prediction
I was listening to Coast to Coast the other night-- they had on a psychic--not a comforting one in most ways--Hans Christian King (who surely must have voted for Kerry so don't flame him!!)--who predicts a major scandal next year involving the president and electronic voting. Ok, that is not the news-- but here was George Noory's response, which was the interesting thing. First of all this isn't generally a political show......again Noory said he is planning a round table discussion on the election at some point, which will include "a portion of an interview with John Zogby" (this time no mention of BBV). George then said, "All is not right in Votingland. I have been told things I cannot repeat now. Exactly specifically who did it nobody knows right now."

The reason this is particularly interesting is that he has said in the past that John Zogby is a good friend. Putting two and two together............... of course this isn't anything that we don't know here. My guess is that Zogby does not want to be on the show and be questioned, but would agree to an interview first as long as he could edit out certain portions. I am speculating a little bit here, to say the least. I think most of us can relate to the pressures in the minds of people like Zogby.

Le's hope the psychic is right on this point, and wrong on most of the others (you can guess-- terrorist attacks, economic collapse, etc.) One thing Hans King did NOT say was that the outcome of the election would be changed.

Let the scandal begin!!
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:23 AM
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1. I'm sure John Zogby knows something is rotten in Denmark...
Or else he would've NEVER sent a representative to Conyers' hearing in Washington D.C. NEVER!
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:28 AM
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16. He did? How did I miss this? Last I heard he was backtracking,
trying to explain the reason for his his poll predictions even though Bush won?

I don't have a link, but didn't someone say he was on TV doing this?

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong - I don't want to spread incorrect info here.

-wildflower
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:56 PM
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23. I don't know what Zogby has been saying, but he definately had someone at
the Conyer's hearing in DC. I watched her speak, but don't remember exactly what she said
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:52 PM
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36. Not Denmark, WashingTOON.
If these neocon nutbags weren't serious, it would be comical.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:25 AM
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2. the scandal has already begun
Many here cling to the idea that Kerry could some how take office. As much as i'd like that to happen I don't think it will. Instead, as long as the outcome of the investigation is that we have a fool proof and above board voting system we will take back everything in a shorter time then we lost it. We are and have always been by far the majority in this country.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:37 AM
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7. I don't anticipate that Kerry will take office
but I do look forward to this voting fraud issue becoming a huge scandal, among other scandals, that can make the Chimp's second term more hellish than Bill Clinton's.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:47 AM
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9. Well shrub is off to a bad start already
shrub is dealing with the Kerick scandal and everyday more repukes want Rumsfeld out. All of this before the new term has even begun. The voting fraud scandal will all come out as time time goes on.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:32 PM
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31. Also heard a few top military lawyers will protest Alberto Gonzalez'
nomination. The honeymoon is over for His Fraudulency!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:04 PM
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33. The war in Iraq...
...coupled with election fraud is going to take him down.
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:30 AM
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3. Never mind I found the website nm
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 10:33 AM by propagandafreegal
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:32 AM
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4. Same here, and thanks for the post! n/t
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:35 AM
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5. Psychics are among us...
shhhhhhhh
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:43 AM
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8. Morons are, too.....
shhhhhhh
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:37 AM
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6. Would you elaborate on the things you hope he is wrong about?
That would be interesting.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:53 AM
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10. predictions
This guy is a little bit out there......but let's say he sounds reasonable because we are on the same page on some major things, as in world views in terms of where we are as a nation right now. He makes a distiction between his own psychic predictions and those of his "spirit guides." He says his spirit guides are a lot more accurate. I know that the presidential scandal was a spirit guide thing. Another spirit guide thing is that our nation is whacked out compared to our beginnings as a compassionate nation. So one "good" spirit guide prediction was a change in consciousness in our nation. Keep in mind that psychics have been saying that since "it is the dawning of the age of aquarius."

I don't know what the origin of these predictions-- major terrorist attack in a large US city in 2005 or early 2006, probably involving a dirty bomb. He mentioned port security as a huge unaddressed issue. He also talked about my favorite topic of the last few months--we are wholly dependent on the largess of others to support the war in Iraq, because we are running horrific deficits, and in particular we are dependent on many nations who are not our "allies" in this war. So we can act like the big bully and deride the international community while at the same time we have our hands out to the same people. This cannot continue, and he predicts that without a major shift that we could be in economic collapse. I have a feeling that this may not be so much a psychic prediction as much as just plain logic. Logic seems to have flown the coop among the leaders of the "free" world over the last four years.

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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:57 AM
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11. Here's a link to the show broadcast
I haven't listened to it. I'm heading out to perform in a concert, so I'll have to listen when I get back.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2004/12/14.html
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propagandafreegal Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:41 AM
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18. It appears that you need a paid subscription to stream. Never mind. nm
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:48 PM
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22. Gee, I wonder who is going to orchestrate that dirty bomb attack?
*cough* PNAC/Neocons *cough*. I wonder who will be to blame? *cough* Iran *cough*.

Gee, if this attack does come, I wonder how Smirky-smirk will tell us he kept us safe, but I guess that won't matter to the sheeple at that time, it will all about Chimp's resolute actions to get those damn Taliban sympathizer Iranians! If this does not give you nightmares! :scared:
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:00 PM
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24. He'll say they were too distracted by the Democrats recounting Ohio
and the whole Votergate thing so he couldn't keep all of the red states safe!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:06 PM
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34. Iran/Syria
I heard on TV somewhere last night that * was "warning" Iran and Syria to stay out of Iraq's affairs. I nearly choked. HELLO?????
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:04 PM
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29. Sounds more like common sense than psychic prediction,
but it is interesting.

Psychic healing is not the nonsense most think it is. William Tiller proved in a Stanford lab that the mind can effect matter at a distance. That thoughts are things, that intention can alter the ph of liquids, etc... and this can be revealed, in undeniable ways, in the everyday world.

Deepak Chopra has an eloquent way of describing the function of the mechanism from an Ayurvedic perspective that makes quantum healing understandable.

Mallove was a wonderful man, and is sorely missed. As was John Mack.
They are dropping like flies.

If you want to hear intvws on topics like this, check out Future Talk with Zohara Hieronimus. She is far superior at interviewing than Noory or Bell.

http://www.futuretalk.org/

Click listen for recent shows. For another archive check out her husband Bob's site.
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:01 PM
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32. I agree. n/t
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:55 PM
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37. .
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:32 PM
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35. Maybe I should be a psychic
Because I could have told you about most of that. Anyone with one eye opened could.

It doesn't take a psychic to tell you that this country is going down the crapper.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:04 AM
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12. "One thing
Hans King did NOT say was that the outcome of the election would be changed".

Loved the capitals! So positive...
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:12 AM
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13. I wish the truth about 9/11 would come out. I know Satan Cheney and all
of these neocons were behind it! I can feel it. And, I don't want them to plan out another terrorist attack (yet another one of their New Pearl Harbors) to blame it on Iran next. Osama bin Forgotten is a paid boogyman by these neocons and I'm truly convinced that Satan Cheney/Smirking Chimp planned and executed the murder of 3,000 Americans to further their agenda in the Middle East and to make Americans scared to take a piss. So scared, that they would be willing to give up their freedoms (hence the unPatriot Act I and II) and to set up a dictatorship in the U.S.

Man, I wish the truth would come out about that day. If indeed, these neocons didn't take any part in the attacks, and I wrongly misjudged/accused them, then I apologize. But, for now I have to call it as I see it, guilty as charged simply because these people have railroaded and blocked every independent investigation into the attacks. Smirking Chimp finally gave into the investigations and only to rip out 28 pages of the independent investigations' report, which I solely believe implicated the Saud's involvement and Smirking Chimp is protecting them.

(Sigh) Let the truth come out! One way or the other, I want to know and I think Americans (especially the victims' families) deserve the truth of whether we have mass murderers in the WH or not. Just let us know.

DISCLAIMER: This is just my opinion. I know others don't feel that the neocons were involved in 9/11, which is okay. I respect anyone's opinion about that day because it is emotional for all of us to discuss and remember. But, I for one, unfortunately think they were.
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canadianbeaver Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:21 AM
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14. I am putting in an "I also agree with your view" n/t
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:32 AM
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17. I agree with you
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:03 PM
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25. I also agree with you
In memory of
Juan Cisneros
2/16/77 - 9/11/01
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:28 AM
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15. It's not just you, just me,
I listen to Coast to Coast once in a while too. I like George Noory better than Art Bell because he's definitely more politically savvy. If you go to coasttocoastam.com I think it is, you will see a show in their archives where they interviewed Bev Harris of BBV, of all people, way back in October I believe. It's actually a very good interview, and they were one of the first to open up this scandal.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:46 AM
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20. it is a good show
It is soooo entertaining. Sometimes they have "real" shows, and sometimes "unreal" and often it is hard to tell the difference!!

My main interest in life is energetic healing modalities (even at a distance), and I am most interested in scientific explanations for it. You have to tap into the zero point field (collective consciousness). I would say this is more future science than anything particularly mystical. This isn't on topic EXCEPT-- I don't know of any Republicans who give much credence to the concept of collective consciousness. It is almost a given--how many Republicans actually have a true sense of compassionate concern for the totality of the human experience on Earth? Some may have that, and are terribly, terribly misguided. I am in a red state and can see that.

Among my favorite Coast to Coast topics is trying to tap the zero point field for New Energy. And when you get to conspiracy theories, some sets of circumstances are "too" coincidental-- mainly the tragic death of Eugene Mallove.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/obituaries/2004/EugeneMallove/

I'm not ready (yet) to charge the neocons with plotting 9/11 (and I am aware of all the anomalous findings), but I also certainly don't expect all in DU to accept the idea of a zero point field. What we all do share is the knowledge that the 2004 election was stolen.

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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:43 AM
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19. So will George Norry be our hero in all of this??
no one else seems to be stepping up to the plate lately
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:33 PM
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21. Right there with you, itsjustme!
And, thank you for saying this. Because, I feel that this will be the beginning of healing all around the world. Have you ever read Reinventing Medicine by Dossey. If not, then you must! It is a wonderful compilation of research that has been done on this topic.

Much of the most interesting stuff re: distance healing has been done at Princeton, MIT.


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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:26 PM
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26. Thanks, both of you, I believe in energy medicine, too...
My experience is more on the "practical" end--knocking out viruses with Rife-like technology, and encouraging our parishioners (I am a church musician, my husband is a Lutheran clergyman) to try sleeping on magnets for better sleep, with fewer aches and pains.

But I do so believe in Dossey's own research and more. THANKS for the post. We did hear the interview Noory did with Bev. But due to our magnets, it is hard to stay awake for long! :-) THANKS for sharing the King interview.

About Zogby, I thought it was highly significant that he did send a representative to Conyers' DC hearing. It was courageous of him, and if you'll remember, his representative called in clear tones right at the end for a blue ribbon investigation of all the exit poll data. He and Mitofsky are under a LOT of pressure. ALL STATISTICIANS KNOW that the EXIT POLLS ALONE COMPARED TO THE TABULATED VOTE IS ABSOLUTE PROOF OF FRAUD!!!! They are all hiding, harrumphing and hoping the spotlight moves off of them, so no one suffers the fate of poor Dr. Mallove (I just read all that--terrible--he was wonderful, what a value-laden life he led.) A blue ribbon investigative commission could provide the necessary cover as they show the American people the unvarnished truth, much as the media consortium ultimately did (even Brokaw admitted this on his newscast on November 1, ie, that Gore actually won in 2000!)

I do so wish King had seen an overturned election! But I guess if Smirk has to live through his record all tumbling down upon him, that would be something to see. I just hope the rest of us can live through it as well--Lord, have mercy.

THANKS again--GREAT POSTS!!
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:51 PM
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27. Very nice, Dare to Hope
I should mention that in a post re: psychic predictions from last week, a psychic has predicted that he/she could "see both Bush and Kerry at an Inauguration." Who's to say whether that would be '05 for Kerry or '08. You see, Bush and Kerry would both be there if it flipped for Kerry in '05 OR Bush would stay in, and Kerry would become prez in '08. Two other things of interest that this person said were that 1) Bush would have a "great fall" @ 6/05 (?impeachment) and 2) Kerry would lead our nation in great ways.


PS: I have a Rife frequency generator! I love it and use it quite a lot.

PEACE
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:54 PM
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28. Nory can't do any more than Randi Mike and Thom, but he can help
we should slam his email with election fraud info
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:06 PM
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30. the cabinet rats started leaving the sinking ship right after Karen Hughes
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