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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:40 PM
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Are you listening to Conason talking to the dittohead??
Right now! It's 1:40 EST. It's awesome!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:41 PM
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1. Conason is amazing!
I am really enjoying this.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:42 PM
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3. He says Joe is converting him?????
OMFG!!! :wow:
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:04 PM
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23. MODS - can you move this to GD please?
I was in a state of shock when I posted and wasn't paying attention to the forum I was on. Thanks, Spiff
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:41 PM
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2. Yo, Spiff, some details for the cube dwellers, please
Please?
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:45 PM
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11. The gist of it:
Joe started out with another instance of Rush "pulling one out of his ass". But then he asked, "but that's not what you listen to Rush for is it, the facts?" No it's the attitude. He is sticking it to the liberal elite in honor of the little man.

Ditto head agrees.

Then Joe mentioned that Rush smokes (Communist) Cuban cigars and that he was laughing at his listeners behind their backs.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:42 PM
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4. Yeah..Is that REALLY the Dittohead?????
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:44 PM
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7. Yes!!
I dunno...it sounded awfully staged, but sincere. Joe made some excellent points and all, but I have a feeling that Mark Luther may have already been on his way to the "light." We'll see.
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alvis Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:45 PM
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10. It sounded like him
I can't believe he just caved like that. I kept thinking it's has to be some sort of bit.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:43 PM
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5. Conason is making mincemeat of Rush in front of his fan (Al's dittohead)
I have never heard a more effective deconstruction of Rush and his BS hypocritical life. WOW. Al F should be ashamed at how much better Conason is at this.....
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:45 PM
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13. Sure hope Conason's book is a best seller too!!!!!! n/t
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:44 PM
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6. Is that like for real?! I wish I was able to hear it. I missed it what
was said to convert Mark?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:44 PM
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8. I think AL will cry when he hears about this....
Joe actully getting the Dittohead to admit he has been wrong about Limpballs all this time!!! Wonder if this means he has changed any of his other views?
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:45 PM
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9. Background please
Who is Conason?
What show is this?
What is the context?
Where did they get the "dittohead"?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:48 PM
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17. Context
Who is Conason? Joe Conason
What show is this? Al Franken on AirAmerica Radio
What is the context? Al's childhood friend was a fan of Rush and Al has been trying to show him the error of his ways for a long time
Where did they get the "dittohead"? Rush Limpballs listeners..don't know the origins. I have never listened to him
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:50 PM
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20. Conason writes for Salon
Also writes for the New York Observer and is the author of "Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth".
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:45 PM
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12. It sounded like Al Franken to me, was it tongue in cheek? n/t
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:46 PM
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14. That was Mark.. no doubt.. Conson just took different approach..
Instead of lies.. he called Rush a FRAUD!
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princehal Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:47 PM
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15. It was scripted.
Come on, it was a Joke.

May have even been Al impersonating Mark...
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:47 PM
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16. Sounded a little scripted to me
I think they are doing this to pull Al's leg
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:49 PM
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19. It was really Mark..but it may have been a bit scripted to pull Al's leg
and to plug Joe's book..............
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:48 PM
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18. OK Cubies...
Here's what I remember (and don't take it as verbatim...I'm senile as hell).

Joe explained what Al never seems to grasp, and that is how Limbaugh acts like he stands up for the little guy, etc. Trouble is, he talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. In an interview with Cigar Aficionado magazine, Limbaugh explains that his favorite wine is a little-known but very expensive $2,000 a bottle beauty from (OMG...) FRANCE. He also mentions his favorite vacation spot is (drumroll...) PARIS; and that he loves to smoke expensive cigars on his trips to gay Paree made in (here it comes...wait for it...) CUBA!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:50 PM
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21. Gee whiz..SURPRISE! another Rupugnant HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:53 PM
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22. I think it was really Mark. I heard AL on the phone earlier..no way he
would sound that clear. Ithink it was all a setup to kind of pull Al's leg...and to plug Joe's new book.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:04 PM
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24. *** FACT CHECK **** (Conason vs. Rush)
The thrust of Conason's comments on Rush was that he is a "phony populist." Specifically, he is really a member of the "conservative elite": while he pretends to argue the point of view of the "little guy" (vs the "liberal elite"), he is living high on the hog - like any millionaire entertainer would - and laughing all the way to the bank.

As evidence, Conason cited an interview from "Cigar Aficionado" in which Rush claims to favor $2000/bottle FRENCH wines and CUBAN ("communist") cigars. Rush loves Paris and San Francisco as travel destinations.

Lucky for us, the whole piece is online and I have spot-checked a few of Conason's claims. They check out, perfectly.

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Profiles/People_Profile/0,2540,18,00.html
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:06 PM
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25. You are da bomb, BlueEyedSon
Thanks for the link. :headbang:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:10 PM
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27. Just trying to help!
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 02:11 PM by BlueEyedSon
Glad you enjoyed the post.
BTW, Google is my best friend.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:09 PM
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26. I think it probably was scripted - BUT
all the points made were legit.
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