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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:39 PM
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Florida numbers cruncher has a new volunteer project - KEEP KICKED PLEASE!
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 04:52 PM by helderheid
From: kathy@directell.com
Date: 12/16/04 14:26:13
To: utahcountvotes@uscountvotes.org
Subject: New Volunteer Scientific Project for Dectection of Vote-Counting Errors


NEW VOLUNTEER SCIENTIFIC PROJECT FOR DETECTION OF VOTE COUNTING ERRORS
--------------------------------------------------
In recent years the integrity and accuracy of the voting process in
America have been a continuing source of controversy.

The integrity of the election process is the cornerstone of democracy; and
open investigation of alleged vote counting irregularities is a matter of
vital civic importance.

In order to objectively investigate the accuracy of elections in America,
a group of independent mathematicians, statisticians and computer
professionals has formed a new, volunteer scientific research project: US
Count Votes. We have just Launched our new web site at
http://USCountVotes.org

We propose to create and analyze - for the first time - a single database
containing precinct-level election results for the entire United States.
This rich mine of data will be analyzed by our project's affiliated
mathematicians, computer programmers, pollsters and statisticians, as well
as by independent peer-reviewers.

Our goal is to use this data to develop and test mathematical techniques
to reliably detect precinct-level vote counting errors worthy of
investigation.

What you can do:

If you agree with us that restoring public trust in the voting process is
a worthwhile goal, consider joining our group of sustainers, who are
willing to donate $10 per month to help underwrite our expenses.

http://www.uscountvotes.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=40

As a newly-formed non-profit we are currently seeking 501c(3) tax-exempt
status, and will adhere to the highest standards of fiscal responsibility
- including conducting and publicly publishing the results of independent
financial audits, on a quarterly basis. Please consider helping with this
vital civic project.

Thanks to the 40 persons from many states across America who have already
contributed a total of $2,000, USCountVotes has made excellent progress
designing a public archival system and database, purchased and set up a
150 GB database server, and set up the content management system for our
web site http://uscountvotes.org Our database design will handle
redistricting and presidential to city-wide races.

We rely on volunteers in every state to gather the data we need.
USCountVotes has created an email list for each state’s volunteers. If
you are already helping investigate a particular state and would like to
connect with others who would like to investigate the same state, please
visit our state email list sign up page.

http://www.uscountvotes.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61&Itemid=70

If you can donate $10/month or any one-time amount, and you give us your
name and address, we will add your name to our public contributors page:
http://www.uscountvotes.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=46

http://www.uscountvotes.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=40

We are close to having the election document archival system up and
running, but we need support to get it done quickly. USCountVotes needs
$4,000+/month to hire a talented technical person full-time so that we can
make timely progress on the archival, database, database programming, and
statistical content management systems. If half of the people receiving
this email were to become sustaining members, that would do it. Restoring
democratic elections for your children and their children to enjoy is
worth $10/month.

What is the problem with voting in America?

More than 27,000 anecdotal reports of irregularities in the 2004 election
were submitted to the independent "Election Incident Reporting System". A
pattern of discrepancies between exit poll results and final tallies in
several key states is still regarded with suspicion by many observers. The
General Accounting Office plans to launch an investigation into the
security and accuracy of voting technologies, distribution and allocation
of voting machines, and counting of provisional ballots.

It is currently extraordinarily difficult and time-consuming to reliably
detect where errors may have occurred - and precisely where a recount
should be performed.

Concerns about potential problems with un-auditable electronic voting
machines are widespread in the computer science community. In a recent
survey of US members of the ACM – the world's oldest and largest computer
society - 95% of respondents opposed deployment of un-auditable voting
machines.

What do we propose to do about it?

Our goal is to develop reliable mathematical indicators of all probable
vote count error incidents, regardless of the parties involved. We will
publish our data and analyses, and will provide public archives to allow
anyone to perform and replicate our work.

We encourage robust scientific debate and criticism, and some of our early
critics have since agreed to participate in our peer review process.

If the analyses of the 2004 election can be completed and the database and
analytic tools can be put in place by the national election in November
2006, for the first time ever, it could be possible for candidates to be
reliably warned of indications of machine or human-caused vote count
errors, in time to challenge the results.

With a sound scientific approach and methodology, it may be possible for
our project staff to serve as expert witnesses, or to help develop
statistical evidence in support of legal filings.

Please visit http://www.uscountvotes.org for additional information, and
consider contributing to our project.

http://www.uscountvotes.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=40

Whether you can donate or not, you can help:

Sign up now on any state’s individual email list to begin collaborating w/
other people who are working to gather election data or investigate the
elections in any state.

http://www.uscountvotes.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61&Itemid=70

Please ask your friends to join us election-subscribe@uscountvotes.org

Thank you very much. With your help, we will win our battle to restore
the public faith in democratic elections by 2006.

Sincerely,

Kathy Dopp, Park City, UT, President, USCountVotes
Bruce O’Dell, Minneapolis, MN, VP, USCountVotes
Jim Druffner, Park City, UT, Treasurer, USCountVotes

Read more about the founders of USCountVotes on http://uscountvotes.org in
the "About Us" section.

"The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which all
other rights are protected. To take away that right is to reduce man to
slavery." – Thomas Paine





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regularjoe Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:42 PM
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1. kick. n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:53 PM
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5. .
:kick:
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 07:53 PM
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54. Do we know who these people are and what they plan to do?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:43 PM
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2. PLEASE
Keep this kicked and please donate to Kathy. I can PERSONALLY vouch for her (have worked with her to keep the machines out of Utah). Met her a couple times in person (we live within an hour of each other) and have worked online with her for a couple years. She is working 24/7 on crunching the numbers and was THE one who crunched the abnormalities with the op-scan machines in Florida. Please help her out.
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:46 PM
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3. Is it too late for you to edit "keep kicked" into the title? n/t
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 04:46 PM by Lil
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:47 PM
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4. thanks!
done!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:36 PM
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28. kicking for you
:kick:
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K3RRY1 Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:54 PM
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6. Kick ! -nm
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 04:57 PM
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7. kick
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:00 PM
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8. Thanks! Sign up for your state
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:16 PM
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9. Subscribe to the list
election-subscribe@uscountvotes.org
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:20 PM
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10. I Just Gave $25
and could add to that after Christmas. Thanks for the link. This is important work. That is a lot of data to assemble.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:22 PM
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11. Wonderful!
What do you say all y'all? Can you give $1,$5,$10? More?

I'm off to donate what I can. :)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:35 PM
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12. $20
just donated.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:44 PM
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13. Another must see site Kathy Dopp is working with
http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/ they've created an open source code with paper trail voting maching. One I would vote on.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 05:45 PM
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14. Kick n/t
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:20 PM
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15. kick to the top to see work of great researchers n/t
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 06:21 PM by Lil
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:11 PM
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16. evening
:kick:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:45 PM
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17. please donate
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:30 PM
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19. Hello, good evening. :-)
kick
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:49 PM
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18. Been subscribed since right after the election...

But they haven't sent much in the way of volunteer work.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:33 PM
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22. I'm not surprised
Kathy has been completely swamped with utahcountvotes.org but since her Florida numbers ended up all over the web, she's been more focused on the national stuff. She's really swamped - if you're a mathmetician I KNOW she could use your help!
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:49 PM
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26. check pm n/t
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:03 AM
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40. I am a mathematician
though my expertise is not statistics.
I think statisticians and computer scientists are probably what is most needed. But I'm good at spotting patterns or anomalies in them.
What's the best way to contact her?
(Sorry if I've missed this in the thread but it's late and I'm tired)
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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:08 PM
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20. kick
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:46 PM
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24. :)
:kick:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:26 PM
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21. Letter from Kathy Dopp
>
> Hey Kathy,
>
> I donated and I posted this message on democraticunderground.com . I
> hope you'll consider calling into Randi Rhodes show and telling her
> about your project and talk about crunching the numbers in Florida. The
> number is 1-866-303-2270 . She's on right now:
> http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen.asp
>
> Keep it up!
>
> Clarity
>

Thanks for posting the link. we really need to try to get enough
sustaining members to have an income of at least $4,000/month to get this
all done.

Hi good idea Clarity, but right now I'm getting read to send a press
release via email to both national and Utah press. I think Air America is
on our press list so they'll get a copy.

Then I have to try to hide out and work on our archival system for a few
days and let Bruce Odell handle press response for us.

Kathy

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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:09 AM
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33. kick for donating to continued activism
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 03:09 AM by Lil
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:34 PM
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23. kick!
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:47 PM
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25. Keep this one kicked for Lil!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:50 PM
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27. Thanks!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:07 AM
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29. kick
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:19 AM
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30. On fire
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:40 AM
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31. last kick before I go to bed. Please check it out.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:59 AM
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32. Kick for H!
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:08 AM
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34. Kick
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Mr Grieves Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:32 AM
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35. and kick.
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:34 PM
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36. big kick back to the top n/t
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 11:34 PM
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37. kick back to the top for this great web site
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 11:41 PM
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38. Thanks Lil!
:kick:
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 12:45 AM
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39. You're welcome and thanks to you - very much for all your work.
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:20 AM
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42. kick to the top
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:56 AM
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43. good night from Australia. Kick for the US a.m. crew. See ya later
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:34 AM
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41. kick
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 07:03 PM
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44. ;)
:kick:
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:03 PM
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45. interesting.
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 10:52 PM
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46. kick to the top
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:04 AM
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47. kick for more number crunchers
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:48 AM
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48. another big kick
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 04:02 AM
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49. kick
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 06:16 AM
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50. kick
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:42 PM
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51. kick to the top
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 07:43 PM
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52. kick
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StephanieMarie Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 07:49 PM
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53. kick n/t
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:44 PM
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55. kick again
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56. Locking......
Excessive kicking of threads is not allowed.



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