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Broken Acorn Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:49 PM
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Kerry's (old) Video revisted and analyzed: Please Read
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 03:55 PM by Broken Acorn
http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/everychild.php

Ok, I broke down his video, line by line, and came up with the following conclusion. Please read.

I want to personally thank you for what you did in this past election. You rewrote the book on grassroots politics. Taking control of campaigns away from big donors.

The grassroots movement was the biggest that our country has ever seen; thanks in part to Moveon.org, the Deaniacs and many others. This definitely scared the shit out of the GOP because we outnumber them and if we all continue to make small or modest contributions, we out raise them too.

No campaign will ever be the same, or we certainly hope so. You moved voters, helped George Bush accountable and countered the attacks from big news organizations such as Fox, Sinclair Broadcasting and conservative talk radio.

The media is a bunch of corporate-run bitches. They all cater to their GOP owners and tons of shit was made up about Kerry during his campaign. He learned first hand how the media is not his friend. This is exactly why he conceded early and has been in the shadows during the investigation. He can't give the MSM any ammunition to call him a sore loser. This is a very wise strategy, no matter how much pain we suffer during the process. Just because Kerry isn’t giving press conferences about the fraud doesn’t mean he’s still not there.

And your efforts count now, more than ever.

Kerry needs our help in continuing the investigations. We, the grassroots people, need to keep this story going. We need to continue to keep the heat on the MSM for not reporting it. We need to continue to put pressure on our elected Congressmen and Senators to not ignore the fraud issue. We need to keep fighting this.

Then Kery talks about Bush’s plans to tear apart his cabinet, CIA and State Department. Talks about how there is no critical dialogue or discussion within his Administration.

Kerry does this to remind us that Bush is a douche bag and needs to be removed from office. Like we really needed it, but good to reinforce it anyways. It also underscores how hard it will be to actually get the chimp to resign, leave or be removed after the evidence is in the MSM and the American public is well informed.

Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted, and believe me, they will be counted; we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles. It is a time to stand firm.

Kerry makes it very clear that he knows that there was fraud. He is telling us to not back down to this bullshit and keep fighting. Even if Bush is reelected, Kerry is still going to go after him and his administration until they are all brought down because of the election fraud.

I am going to fight for national standards for federal elections. Standards that have both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It’s unacceptable in the United States of America that people still don’t have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process. I ask you to join me in this cause. And we must fight now only against George Bush’s extreme policies, we also have to fight to uphold our own values.

Kerry reinforces the fact the election was bullshit and the electronic votes were rigged. We are the greatest country in the world, yet we have a 3rd World / Banana Republic voting system that is corrupt to the core.

Then he goes on about universal Healthcare for children.

Note: This is the oddest part of the speech. I firmly believe that this is cover so the media or GOP doesn't catch the underlying message he is trying to convey to us, his grassroots supporters. I also believe that the online petition was used by his people to measure how strongly we feel about the election fraud. Think about it for a minute. If 1 million people signed his petition, that's a pretty fucking good statement that we still support him (and want him to fight the fraud).

They want you to disappear. They’re counting on that and I’m confidant that you’re going to prove them wrong. And together, we’re going to rewrite history again.

The GOP thinks that the American public is both stupid and lazy. Kerry knows that when the fraud is brought to light, if we stand up and are heard (and cause civil disobedience in the process) Kerry wins. If we say ‘oh well, there's nothing we can do about it’, the GOP wins. It's that simple. Think about his statement again logically. Is the rewrite history thing about child health care or massive GOP election fraud?

Here’s what I want you to know. I understand the strength, commitment and passion that are at the core of what we built together. And I am determined to make our collective energy and organization a force to be reckoned with in the weeks and months ahead.

Kerry is again reinforcing our power as a grassroots organization. He spells out that it's not going to be fixed in November; or maybe even in December. weeks and months ahead. But it will be brought to justice eventually. We need to stick together (and hang in there for the long haul) to win this thing.

So let’s roll up our sleeves. Let’s get back to work for our country, for our future. I look forward to working with you, and together, we are going to change history. Thank you.

Ok, we are going to change history. Again, is this about child health care or massive GOP election fraud?

I know this is a lot to digest in one sitting, but for even the pessimists and realists out there, the message is very clear to me.

Kerry is onboard and working daily on the fraud. He needs our continued support. And if we stick together, we will win and change history in the process. :)
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:53 PM
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1. Great post.
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 03:53 PM by Qutzupalotl
Change history...the usual phrase is "make history". You might be right about the hidden meaning.

On edit: Double entendre? That's FRENCH, ain't it?!
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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:54 PM
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2. great analysis !!
eom
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:54 PM
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3. give the man a "quipie" doll! n/t
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:55 PM
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6. You mean a "Kewpie" doll, right? n/t
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:03 PM
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13. yes
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:21 PM
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21. Don't worry....
The only reason I know the spelling of the word is because my high school mascot was the "Kewpies".
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:46 AM
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55. what did it look like? at least it wasn't a hodag!

"The Living Legend of Rhinelander"

I laughed on that one

k
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 09:22 AM
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60. This is what it looked like... and it struck fear into our opponents!
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:54 PM
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4. Thanks.... I needed a little pick me up.
Been getting so frustrated with all the MSM bullshit.

:grouphug: Group hug everyone!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:55 PM
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5. Nice analysis......my read, too.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:55 PM
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7. I've never read it all - too painful. In this light, however,
I see hope sprinkled throughout and a subtle request to keep fighting and never surrender.

Thank you so much for posting. I am almost in tears after reading that. * and his cronies did a horrible thing to this country. This only brings it home.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:55 PM
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8. Good post, Acorn. nt
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:56 PM
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9. I see the same "hints..."
But a reassuring "suplement" would work for me too!
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:57 PM
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10. That's pretty much how I read it the first time I heard it. n/t
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:58 PM
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11. same here, first time i saw it
he should at least do the same again to let us know he's still with us.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:04 AM
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50. Me too.. didnt see the "change history.. twice!" nt
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:59 PM
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12. I believe
that you are right
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:03 PM
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14. You read between the lines pretty good Broken acorn.
I thought the weeks and months part was telling. He could have said the next four years there.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:16 PM
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19. Yes
this is also how I took it. I have been getting real frustrated w/ the lack of MSM coverage though. The Curtis allegations are pretty amazing, and pretty detailed as far as I'm concerned. You would think by now if they could really discredit him, they would have come out with something a little more substantial than that letter from Yang. The things that they said should be very easy to prove. thanks for the little pick me up. One thing we should all remember about Kerry is he is one of the BEST investigators out there. He must have pretty irrefutable evidence to sign his name onto the election fraud lawsuit!
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:06 PM
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15. "rewrite history again" implies that it's already been rewritten
Another fraud nod.

This "Kerry in the background" stuff seems like rosy-glassed optimism, but it seems to be the way he operates - remember BCCI and contra-cocaine. Remember his statement after the primaries.

Remember his S&B membership...?

It's all too convoluted to be interpreted. We just have to prepare for the worst, hope for the best, and work for the future.
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mary195149 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:10 PM
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16. This is how I keep reading it,
there is so much powerful information in his speech that he can't outright tell us. He is relying on us to keep this going because he can't. Kerry is brilliant!!
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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:19 PM
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20. When you listen to it, the message is even clearer. n/t/
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:14 PM
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17. "Kerry is onboard and working daily on the fraud. "
Do we know this?

Or do we hope this?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:44 PM
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24. Hi wakemewhenitsover!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:34 PM
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34. Thanks, and your avatars are so cool...
...but we need one of Kerry dressed as Santa, coming down the chimney on Christmas Eve with a sack of reclaimed spoiled ballots.
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:07 PM
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32. Pure hope as far as I can see.....n/t
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:15 PM
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18. sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 04:16 PM by whalerider55
although I disagree with much of your analysis, i'm willing, for the sake of discussion to assume that it is accurate.

please consider the following questions that come to mind then:

Kerry can keep a low profile so he isn't called a loser (although it is in my opinion an approach to leadership that is less than inspiring); why haven't any other mainstream democrats ( a list that excludes Dean, Jackson, Conyers and Sharpton) taken the position publicly that every vote should be counted, regardless of whether that makes Kerry the winner? Most of the Dem Leadership who could take that posiiton are in safe seats or don't face re-election anytime soon- Biden, Dodd, Boxer Feinstein...

They wouldn't be called sore losers. Maybe they would, but it seems a pretty easy argument to sidestep if...

and BTW- Kennedy is my senator, and I wrote him an e-mail two weeks ago asking him to sponsiopr the house petition to toss the ohio delegation and throw the election to the house (where it will be stolen again, yeah, but in broad daylight, with the MSM being forced to cover a constitutional "crisis", instead of behind scalia's closed doors or hacked computers and locked down election boards) and i never heard back from Kennedy.

if we make the constitutional argument that votes cast should be counted as cast, and that everyone has the civil right to vote. Heck, that's darned american, ain't it? Let there be a public argument in which the dems make supporting the constitution their foundatin and the pugs are forced to deconstruct that argument... maybe it will make up for the rollover on Patriot I.

I hope you are right, my friend. In fact, I pray you are right.
But for my money, (and some small part of it, maybe some of the money kerry stashed for the massive recount he promised in Sept/October, is my donation), a more unified, multi-front timely and unified approach was called for. Nothing that Kerry is doing behind the scenes (and it could be something, or it could be nothing) would have been jeopardized by Dems sending the message to millions of voters who may have been defrauded that we will do everything we can to support enfranchisement.

whalerider55

flame away, my friends.
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noclonyofthechimp Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:26 PM
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22. This is an EXCELLENT analogy. I agree with you in so many areas.
I am telling my friends who have been doing as I ask to help the cause, that now we need to keep pressure on our Senators, sign and send every petition I send, and work on the media blast I sent. Kerry will make the "Hale Mary" move when the time is right.
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:30 PM
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23. I hope you are right
if we can read between the lines like that, this is great. Good analysis.
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shiina Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:46 PM
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25. I think you might be right...and about Cobb's statements...
I have to tell you that I haven't had an ounce of faith in Kerry, not even before the election. I thought he could have taken Bush to task for so many things that he never even touched. But maybe I was wrong.

*It seems very odd for him to talk about elections in a video about health care for children and not in a separate video about elections...especially considering how strong and specific his statements were about the election.

*He made some very strong statements about the Bush administration and elections.

*Could Cobb's recent talking-down of Kerry be dis-info? This and Kerry's not spending money on the recount could be to keep him from looking like a sore loser.

*A point about other Democrats...they would look like sore losers, too, if they came out and made statements about it. Things like this, planning to take down people in power, are always done in the background.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:53 PM
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27. Acorn
I agree with your analysis 100 percent. I listened to that video again a couple weeks ago, and that's how it came through to me, too. I like the part about "change history."
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:48 PM
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26. One more point..
First, good work on your analysis B.A.

One more point I heard was that "...legislation co-sponsored by hundreds of thousands' of supporters". I take that to mean that we, as DUers and (real) Americans, must write/call/email/petition our senators and Representatives about our desires and values. I think JK wants us to insure our voices are heard on the senate floor - even though we will be beaten up.

As he said, we need to keep on fighting - all of us.

For starters, we need to stop the war in Iraq and stop Bush from fucking with Social Security.
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:57 PM
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28. Thank you!
That's exactly how I felt when I first heard his message and I needed the reminder. I admit I want action now and am becoming impatient. But face it- the dems can't afford to lose the faith of so many of their grassroots. I have to believe there's a bigger plan here! Hope, hope, hope.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:59 PM
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29. Aw JEEZ
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 05:00 PM by Carolab
GIVE IT UP ALREADY. Kerry has left us standing in the dust of a democratic ruin.
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:03 PM
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30. So once we have Kerry in the White House...
are we going to continue to make excuses for his inability to come to the aid of people who have been loyal to him? Are we going to continue to read between the lines for the secret messages that he has to send because he himself can't stand up to the media badmouthing and call it for what it is?

I want to believe Kerry will come forward SOMEDAY and start doing something with the money he's HOLDING BACK from OUR boots on the ground in OHIO - - but when the HELL is that going to happen?
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:06 PM
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31. I grow more skeptical every day.....
that Kerry and more importantly, Dem $$, stay out of the Ohio recount. He talks the talk, but I sure haven't seen him walk.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:10 PM
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33. Remember in the debates
Kerry talked about how he told his mother he was going to run for president and she said "finally" and then told him to remember three things: "integrity, integrity, integrity".

Hey, John! Remember??????
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:20 PM
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39. He needs to show some of that to us.
Smirky never had integrity.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:39 PM
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35. Thanks BA for the post and analysis
this is how I interpreted the speech the first day I saw it and how I have felt each time I read it. You were able to put to words how this speech made me feel, thank you.

The fight is up to us. Never Give Up. Kerry Won! - We Won! and we want out nation back.

:grouphug:
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Razorback_Democrat Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:41 PM
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36. I'm sorry, I want to believe, but I think you are reading more into
his statements, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 05:59 PM
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37. Thx Broken Acorn! I needed that!
To be reminded is sometimes a very good thing!

I believe that it will be the 9/11 scandal combined with the election fraud that will be used to bring this Bush cabal down! This is why the dems have ALL been silent! This will net numerous high level officials on both sides of the aisle...Please, visit the Homeland Security Forum and read law suits filed in LA and in PA covering this very topic! The PA lawsuit covers election fraud as well (page 4), and sets up a suit against the admin. AND Diebold, W. O'Dell, ES%S and Sequoia.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:06 AM
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51. so u think the change of history is child healthcare.. not between lines!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:13 PM
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38. My hat's off to ya, Broken Acorn...
I welcome the fresh conversation on Kerry's video. Some need to be reminded of Kerry's commitment to us.

And Kerry's interjection of the universal healthcare talk within the video struck me the same way:


Then he goes on about universal Healthcare for children.

Note: This is the oddest part of the speech. I firmly believe that this is cover so the media or GOP doesn't catch the underlying message he is trying to convey to us, his grassroots supporters. I also believe that the online petition was used by his people to measure how strongly we feel about the election fraud. Think about it for a minute. If 1 million people signed his petition, that's a pretty fucking good statement that we still support him (and want him to fight the fraud).


We're with you, John.
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:15 PM
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44. I agree Kerry's commitment...
...would not permit him to walk away, Nightmare.

Or are we both just dreaming?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:04 PM
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47. It's reality, wakemewhenitsover!
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 09:05 PM by 8_year_nightmare
Think about the man (Kerry) we learned so much about during the campaign & from the movie "Going Upriver". Don't think for a minute that Kerry is going away quietly without a plan. Another thing I remember learning about Kerry is that he's a stickler for confidentiality; doesn't like leaks by anyone in his circle. That, combined with the fact that every Democratic leader (including Michael Moore, Al Sharpton, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, etc.) has been quiet after the election, tells me that they're working on exposing the fraud. :)
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:31 PM
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40. How about Elizabeth Edwards (quoting Jefferson)...
"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."

1798, but could it be more timely?
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mary195149 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:38 PM
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41. We really need to closely listen now.
These statements Kerry/Edwards are making, are meant to be read between the lines.
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Broken Acorn Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:49 PM
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42. Recap of my analysis
Thanks all of you for your feedback. I am glad to see that I am not the only one who feels this way. And for those of you who say Kerry's not doing anything, you could be 100% right.

But here are the things that still don't make sense to me.

1) Why was this message sent out to his supporters via email instead of having a press conference so the whole country could see a 10 second blip on the evening news?

It only means that he is rallying the grassroots troops for militant action.

2) Why was the children's health care issue raised at all in his speech? Why wasn't it all about possible election fraud or all about health care? Or just about thanking us for a tough defeat?

Notice there was no reference to conceding in his speech. Even the realists/pessimists must admit this is very odd regarding the health care issue.

3) And not once:
And together, we’re going to rewrite history again.
But twice: and together, we are going to change history.

You don't say this unless you know something huge is going to happen and have the confidence to see it through.

Hoping for a very Kerry Christmas!
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:05 PM
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45. Thank you Broken Arrow
I believe that this is a healthy analysis.

The only thing that is completely clear is that things are not as they seem. Clearly big things are happening in Ohio and Florida. There are charges pending and huge allegations that will eventually touch the highest levels of our government.

This is so much bigger than overturning an election. Once everyone embraces that idea, perhaps the clues will make more sense. "Our efforts count more than ever." We are the ones on the ground uncovering the blatant acts of fraud. We are the ones blowing the whistle on corrupt corporations and corrupt local governments. We are the ones in the street demanding that our representatives do their job.

Let me take a stab at answering your three questions.

1. This message was sent underground to us to minimize press exposure, and to call us, the liberal base, into action now. It was not sent publicly because to conduct a thorough investigation and gather evidence, you do not announce your plans. If I was a prosecutor or an investigator, I would probably set up informants in local precincts whose sole purpose is to report on the criminal acts of fraud and cover-up. Then I would sit back and quietly gather the evidence and affidavits.

2. Why the reference to children's health care. I believe there are two reasons. The first, children's health care could be a key wedge issue that will be used against the pugs in the next Congress. Secondly, to an outsider, it disguises the true message. The call to arms.

3. "And together, we’re going to rewrite history again.
But twice: and together, we are going to change history."

I think you answered that one yourself. Something big is in the works. Very big!
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 06:58 PM
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43. Speaking of theories...
Anyone hazard a guess as to why bloggers such as Kos and Atrios adamantly refuse to even acknowledge that the Ohio recount is taking place?

At first, people were conjuring wonderful behind-the-scenes scenarios there too.

Is this just the season for wishful thinking?
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:30 AM
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58. Wishful thinking?
Well, the rational answer is "yeah, probably."

But since we're "out there," I've been minorly troubled by what I've been joking about being the Seinfeld quality of the Dems public statements about the election. All utterances include:

"not that there's anything wrong with that result..."

It almost sounds like the Luntz Parrots on the other side, staying "on (empty) message." Even Rev. Jackson was a couple nano-seconds slow in getting into gear as I recall.

I think we must admit there are indications (only) of a conspiracy of silence, toward some unknown end.

Now, how Atrios and Kos might figure in is that they are the most "famous" bloggers with the beltway insider Dem crowd. And as such may have opted in to the alleged conspiracy.

We'll either end up ReGored or Revived.

It's not over 'till it's over.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:28 PM
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46. totally agree with your analysis. That 'weeks and months ahead' statement,
not years, is a big hint.

Thank you. I needed a shot in the arm right about now.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 12:38 AM
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48. Kicking for Kerry
I BELIEVE!!!!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 12:51 AM
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49. KICK
and keep kicking
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:37 AM
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52. branches on a tree don't fight amongst themselves
don't know why, just thought thtat was apropos
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:16 AM
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53. Broken Arrow
Thank you for taking the time to transcribe the video. I think this is incredibly important. For those that think that Kerry is not actively involved in the investigation, then this is just a nice video on the importance of health care for children. For the rest of us, it IS meant to be interpreted, and I think that many here have made a very valid assessment of its true meaning.

In either case, it is all good.

Thanks again. :yourock:

No Retreat No Surrender
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:42 AM
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54. Kick bush in the ass.. be in DC
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:47 AM
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56. Kick
:bounce: :toast: :bounce:
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:01 AM
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57. encouraging words. 1...2...3 kick!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 04:41 AM
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59. Thank you for this!
I agree, and that's what I remember when it came out -- with new information now it only rings louder-- and am glad I signed on then.

It's a two-pronged message, IMO:

1) Election fraud -- he knows it, and he's working on it. (I still don't believe that he thinks he really won and will take office on the 20th, sorry ). Me, I see it as more like Watergate, which took two years to break.

and

2) The Repug agenda will not stand unchallenged, no matter what. Even if he's only a Senator still, he'll keep kicking, and so should we. What better way to rally folks than a scandal we can all agree should never happen in a decent world: children getting sicker and dying because their parents can't afford elite health care? It's the tip of the iceberg, and the most universal one.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:45 AM
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61. It's all very interesting...
I'm new to this board, and some of the things I've seen people post here really got me interested.

I really liked the analysis of Kerry's video. It showed he's not giving up. We aren't giving up either. We need to keep encouraging him and let him know we care.

We must all stick together, and if we do, we will change history.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:55 AM
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62. Welcome to DU Independent_Liberal
:hi:
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